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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,541  
I finally got a new(er) truck... 2016 F250, with the 6.2L gas motor and 68k miles. Basic XL work truck trim, all I need in a truck that's gonna see farm work, and likely passed around between the wife and kids as needed as well, when needs warrant the use of a truck. It does have cruise, power windows and locks, which are the only extra options I'd ask for.

Having run 7.3L powerstroke diesels in several trucks for nearly 15 years, its unnerving to me to hear an engine screaming at 4500-5000 rpm under normal towing conditions, but many I've talked to say these trucks can talk it all day and twice on Sunday, with nothing more than oil, brakes, and tires. I also miss my stick shift, I'd love to see this 6.2L with a solid 6spd manual trans behind it.

Added a brush guard today, still want to get the windows tinted, and get the cab visor off my old truck painted to match and put on... some not-stock tires and wheels, and I'll be set.
 

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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,542  
I finally got a new(er) truck... 2016 F250, with the 6.2L gas motor and 68k miles. Basic XL work truck trim, all I need in a truck that's gonna see farm work, and likely passed around between the wife and kids as needed as well, when needs warrant the use of a truck. It does have cruise, power windows and locks, which are the only extra options I'd ask for.

Having run 7.3L powerstroke diesels in several trucks for nearly 15 years, its unnerving to me to hear an engine screaming at 4500-5000 rpm under normal towing conditions, but many I've talked to say these trucks can talk it all day and twice on Sunday, with nothing more than oil, brakes, and tires. I also miss my stick shift, I'd love to see this 6.2L with a solid 6spd manual trans behind it.

Added a brush guard today, still want to get the windows tinted, and get the cab visor off my old truck painted to match and put on... some not-stock tires and wheels, and I'll be set.

Sharp truck. I looked at a couple like it. That would be a great work truck
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,543  
Ram 5500 Cummins and Kaufman 35 38,000lb trailer
 

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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,545  
Bought my first new truck in 23 years (the last one being a Dodge 1500 in 1993). We are going from 3 vehicles down to 2. We are giving the 2008 F-150 to our daughter & I sold the 2015 TDI Golf Sportwagen after buying a 2020 5.7L Ram Laramie Longhorn crew cab. I wanted something I could easily get in & out of, was comfortable for driver & passengers, that would handle our 7K trailers and had some decent safety and convenience features.

I ran across this truck that checked off all the items on the wish list while browsing nearby dealer inventories while waiting on servicing for the wife's Highlander. When the servicing was finished we drove down the road, checked it out, signed some papers & I drove it home.

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It had the trailer package with integrated brake controller, 8K+ towing capacity, five position air suspension & auto retracting wheel to wheel step boards that extend when you open the door. Also had the fancy multi-function tailgate & Rambox cargo management system. Safety features included the parksense package with auto braking, blind spot monitoring (that adjusts for trailer towing) and cross traffic alert. Leather seating with heated/vented seats front & rear. The rear seats can be partially reclined if desired.

It drives nice & should handle our trailer moving with no problems. With the interior features, it is the nicest vehicle I have ever owned. It was a bit of a splurge, but why not enjoy something nice?
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,547  
That is a pretty truck nikdfish. Do you know when it was built? Truck inventory has been scarce due to Covid-19 so you're lucky to find what you want.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,548  
That is a pretty truck nikdfish. Do you know when it was built? Truck inventory has been scarce due to Covid-19 so you're lucky to find what you want.

I believe it was assembled July 22 at the Sterling Heights, Michigan facility (per an online VIN lookup). There is probably direct documentation on production date on some of the tags/labels on the truck bu I haven't looked for them yet.

I've been looking/kicking tires since late last year, but nothing was close enough to a "perfect fit" to get me to pull the trigger. This was except for being about $8k higher than my target price, but figured it was worth it as it appeared the only alternative would be to wait for a special order.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,549  
I believe it was assembled July 22 at the Sterling Heights, Michigan facility (per an online VIN lookup). There is probably direct documentation on production date on some of the tags/labels on the truck bu I haven't looked for them yet.

I've been looking/kicking tires since late last year, but nothing was close enough to a "perfect fit" to get me to pull the trigger. This was except for being about $8k higher than my target price, but figured it was worth it as it appeared the only alternative would be to wait for a special order.

That is pretty darn factory-fresh. Only easy way to get them now -- either by putting your name on a list or jumping on an available truck as soon as it shows up in inventory. Same deal for me on a GMC -- saw a truck pop up in inventory, went down the next day to test drive and make a deal. By the time I got our two trades to the dealership in the afternoon (we were also consolidating vehicles) there were other people there asking about the truck. That truck went from production to ownership in about 3 weeks, which is a short fuse compared to normal when they have 60-90 days of inventory built up.

Please post some interior pictures if you get a chance. The Rams have a great interior.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,550  
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Please post some interior pictures if you get a chance. The Rams have a great interior.

OK, hope this isn't overload ;-)

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   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,551  
Looks great -- they did a classy job designing that interior. That center screen is amazing. Some people dislike the rotary shifter knob but it wouldn't bother me.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,552  
Looks great -- they did a classy job designing that interior. That center screen is amazing. Some people dislike the rotary shifter knob but it wouldn't bother me.

I’d rather have have direct linkage but since most of them are drive by wire anyway what difference does a little knob or big bulky shifter make?
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,553  
I’d rather have have direct linkage but since most of them are drive by wire anyway what difference does a little knob or big bulky shifter make?

In most cases linkage to the park pawl. And yes that is important. I would not want to trust electronics to engage park.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,554  
In most cases linkage to the park pawl. And yes that is important. I would not want to trust electronics to engage park.

Most new equipment has an electric parking brake that seems to work pretty trouble free. Salt would probably screw it up though.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,556  
Most of the shifters on recent cars trucks are all electronic now, some brands longer than others. I know BMW has been doing it for a very long time. Many brands still use a physical shift lever even though it's just a big switch.

My 2020 GMC truck still has a column shifter but I am told it's a fake, totally electronic now. I found it a little ironic they still felt the need to mimic this old-fashioned type of shifter when going electronic. Parking brake is a button now.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,558  
Here's my new rig, 2020 GMD Sierra 1500 Denali, crew cab / standard box. 6.2L V8, 10-spd automatic, 3.23 rear end. I probably would not have chosen that color on a custom order but really liked it when I saw it. What kid doesn't dream of growing up and owning a red truck?

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I had given strong consideration to the 3.0 Diesel, but in the end I got scared away by the Tier-IV emissions, DPF, oddball regen procedures and odors, etc. So far the 6.2L has been great and gives impressive gas mileage. Took it out to the mountains a couple weeks ago and got 21-23mpg on the highway over a couple hundred miles. That dropped to 19 when we climbed 4000' for some hiking, then recovered back to 22mpg on the ride home. The 6.2L motor has a heck of a lot more "authority" climbing the mountain than my last truck did with the 5.3L. Almost effortless in comparison. It's a real boss and doesn't seem to work hard like the 5.3L did.

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I was apprehensive about the 3.23 rear end. My last truck had a tow package with 3.42 gears. But that one had a 6-spd automatic. When I looked at the ratios of the new 10-spd automatic, the overall gear ratio range with 10-spd transmission and 3.23 rear end eclipses the old truck with 6-spd and 3.42 rear end, both on the low end and the high end. So I expect towing to be slightly better than before, especially with the big torque increase of the 6.2L motor. We will see how it goes when I tow my first load of gravel in a few weeks. Towing capacity is about 500# lower than the last truck "on paper".

Probably the best thing I liked about GMC was the steering, handling, and ride on the Denali model. It has an adaptive suspension that adjusts to road conditions in realtime to soak up the bumps, firm up in corners, etc, and it rides real nice and corners surprisingly well for a truck. I'd say the rest of the truck is average, the interior is behind Ram, and the overall quality is average. Technology is average to above average but GMC has a smaller 8" screen than Ram. I haven't had any problems, but the interior and exterior materials are noticeably thinner/lighter than my last truck. Probably done for cost cutting and fuel savings. It feels more like car materials than truck materials now. Initial quality is good though.

I noticed a few interior trim pieces out of whack that took a push to align or snap into place, and this was common with GM, Ford, and Ram trucks I looked at. I know I might be pickier than most people (can't help it, I'm an engineer), but I find it surprising that these expensive trucks can go through assembly, quality control, dealer prep, etc, yet I as the customer am the person to notice and correct trim pieces that are out of whack. They just take a push or snap but it's surprising nobody else corrected it first.

Regarding shopping -- Ram was high on my list but inventory was a major problem. The local dealers had a good selection of short box trucks but standard box was impossible to find. They worked pretty hard to convince me that I really wanted short box, to the point where I got annoyed with the tactics. Salesman and sales manager just did not understand my cargo needs or how rulers work. I had no real complaint with Ford F-150, liked the engine options, and inventory was better, but found the interior dated, and didn't want to wait for the all-new model this fall. Once again, Toyota and Nissan were way the heck out of date and behind, to the point of being stale. I remember Toyota was outdated when I bought my last truck in 2014, and here we are 6 years later and they still have only done cosmetic refreshes. (I don't think Toyota even feels the need to compete -- they have their niche with customers who value Toyota quality/reliability over other factors).

Anyhow, 5 years ago I would have laughed at fancy trucks like this Denali -- it's kind of like carrying a tiny dog in your purse. Well, I guess I have softened up. I use my trucks hard, and it will be a shame to beat on this one when I carry building materials and do lots of towing, but in the meantime I sure enjoy the features and comfort. It will be a heck of a lot nicer for my daily commute than the old truck was.

Bad news, this one is about an inch too long to fit in my barn, so I will probably build a carport or garage when the weather cools off. I didn't care about leaving my old truck outside all the time (and it looked fine after 6 years -- only washed it once, a week before trading in), but this one is too nice and I feel guilty leaving it out. I at least want to keep it protected from the pine needles and pine sap that were always covering my old truck, so a carport will suffice. It's not much more effort to close it in though. I may do a pole barn construction and leave it open to start and put walls on later. Here, I can build to 256 sq.ft. without a permit and plan to do 12x24 exterior dimensions. Subtract out the posts and that gets me to 255.84 square feet and I won't have to waste time with the county building department. I don't have a problem dealing with them for residential structures, but for pole barns they are nothing but an impediment.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,559  
Most of the shifters on recent cars trucks are all electronic now, some brands longer than others. I know BMW has been doing it for a very long time. Many brands still use a physical shift lever even though it's just a big switch.

My 2020 GMC truck still has a column shifter but I am told it's a fake, totally electronic now. I found it a little ironic they still felt the need to mimic this old-fashioned type of shifter when going electronic. Parking brake is a button now.
Not so much ironic as consistent design. Everybody knows how the levers work. And by knows I mean knows without thinking about it. There have been a handful of incidents & deaths from people being killed or injured due to fancy but unintuitive new shifter designs. New might be better, but it can also be just plain confusing.
 
   / Your towing rigs and trailers #3,560  
Not so much ironic as consistent design. Everybody knows how the levers work. And by knows I mean knows without thinking about it. There have been a handful of incidents & deaths from people being killed or injured due to fancy but unintuitive new shifter designs. New might be better, but it can also be just plain confusing.

The old fashioned column shifter is the best IMO. I don’t like the center console ones. One of my buddies has a floor mounted 4x4 shifter that doesn’t really shift anything. That’s a complete waste of floor space compared to a twist knob IMO. Now if it actually shifted anything that would be different. A direct mounted floor shifter is cheap and reliable.
 

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