First long towing trip with 2015 F150 2.7EB

[Grumpycat]

How does this work? Sounds interesting

Mercedes-Benz is known for routing the dipstick tube all the way to the bottom of the crankcase. Suction on the dipstick tube will cleanly and efficiently drain the oil.

Would be nice if other manufacturers would do the same for the dipstick tube. My Outback's drain is in an inconvenient location and large enough in diameter to let too much oil gush out too quickly making a big mess. Subaru guys who have been inside the engine say the dipstick tube doesn't reach to the bottom, that one would have to insert an extraction tube to suck oil out. As a result I fitted an Fumoto valve underneath. Attach 1/2" OD vinyl hose. Open the valve and let the oil drain without splashing.

Also put a Fumoto valve on my (former) 2008 F-250 Powerstroke. Drain was centered in crankcase pan. Way high in the air. Again, big splash when 15 quarts fall out. With the Fumoto and a short section of vinyl hose I could crawl under with (4) empty gallon jugs. Place one under the hose. Open the valve to fill. Repeat until empty. No mess. No cleanup. All the oil was drained directly into jugs for disposal. No tools. Just one sheet of paper towel to wipe things clean.

 

[dodge man]

I never felt good about sucking the oil out. It would seem like a little might get left in the bottom and any slightly heavier stuff might get left behind. Between my wifes and the kids vehicles all 5 have a belly pan that has to be taken off to change the oil. The F150 is just as easy as the others. The dipstick is a long reach for me and I am a little over 6 feet tall.

 

[Grumpycat]

I never felt good about sucking the oil out. It would seem like a little might get left in the bottom and any slightly heavier stuff might get left behind. Between my wifes and the kids vehicles all 5 have a belly pan that has to be taken off to change the oil. The F150 is just as easy as the others. The dipstick is a long reach for me and I am a little over 6 feet tall.

You can always suck the oil out then pull the drain plug to check. If it works then you know. If it doesn’t work then you know.

I like to drain oil cold so that anything heavy that might settle out is closest to the bottom to drain. But when using an extractor the thinner hot oil sucks out faster.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

But at this time I would never buy a GM product. Not that there is anything wrong with them but GM chose to close all dealerships in small towns around here a few years ago. Now the nearest dealership is 175 miles away in the Reno area. So if GM won't support those of us who live in rural areas, why should we support them?

The last small dealership around here closed last year, it was a Ford dealership... So I guess I'll never buy another ford product! lol

SR

 

[ovrszd]

You can always suck the oil out then pull the drain plug to check. If it works then you know. If it doesn’t work then you know.

I like to drain oil cold so that anything heavy that might settle out is closest to the bottom to drain. But when using an extractor the thinner hot oil sucks out faster.

The "experts" say to drain hot. Suspends the heavy particles so they come out with the oil.

 

[Tomtint]

Always enjoy the truck battles ford, chevy,dodge/ram.Not brand loyal by any means.

I don't think I would call myself brand loyal. We do have 3 F150s, 1 F350, 1 F450, 1 MB Sprinter, 1 Porsche, 1 Jeep CJ, 1 Jag and a few motorcycles... For the trucks, I have just never really had a reason to move from the Fords. My friend is the GM at the dealership and I get exceptional service from them. I did rent a 2019 or 20 Ram 2500 4x4 crew cab with the Hemi...Nice truck..but I still like the F series better. Friend has a GM Denali with the diesel..tons of power...but IMO the seats suck. After about 20 minutes I need to get out of it. It has a really cool rear view back up cameara..looks like a tv its so clear.

 

[East30]

I'm a Chevy guy who bought a Ford2.7 EB a numner of years ago. All my friends raved about their Fords so I figured I try one. It was a good truck, but like anything had it's little issues issues. I traded it two years ago when the brake booster started to fail, the smaller engine needed it. Mine was a 2012, and the booster was a recalled component. Except my VIN in 2012 did not qualify. So I then, traded for at a Chevy dealership owned by the same guy who owned the Ford dealership that wouldn't help me out on that recall. The strangest issue, swelling lug nuts on the F150. Google it. They can increase in size due to moisture, making the lug wrench in your cab unusable. Wait until you find that out on the side of a road. I told my buddies this and they laughed, one of them found out the hard way in a parking lot late one night six months after he laughed at me. Engine-wise and drive train, it was rock solid.

 

[Jstpssng]

I'm a Chevy guy who bought a Ford2.7 EB a numner of years ago. All my friends raved about their Fords so I figured I try one. It was a good truck, but like anything had it's little issues issues. I traded it two years ago when the brake booster started to fail, the smaller engine needed it. Mine was a 2012, and the booster was a recalled component. Except my VIN in 2012 did not qualify. So I then, traded for at a Chevy dealership owned by the same guy who owned the Ford dealership that wouldn't help me out on that recall. The strangest issue, swelling lug nuts on the F150. Google it. They can increase in size due to moisture, making the lug wrench in your cab unusable. Wait until you find that out on the side of a road. I told my buddies this and they laughed, one of them found out the hard way in a parking lot late one night six months after he laughed at me. Engine-wise and drive train, it was rock solid.

I had that problem on my Ranger, except that I was in my driveway getting ready to do a brake job. There's an easy solution for that... swap those stupid veneer lug nuts out for something solid. I always carry a breaker bar and deep well impact sockets anyways so it wouldn't be as much of a problem. Still, when you spend that kind of money on a new truck you shouldn't have to mess with it.
The GM products with the screw-on wheel covers aren't much better; you have to unscrew 6 lug nut caps just to get to the lug nuts.

 

[East30]

The GM products with the screw-on wheel covers aren't much better; you have to unscrew 6 lug nut caps just to get to the lug nuts.

Agree 100%, haha Something that should be so simple, lug nuts

 

[Mat4644]

It was proven that people were destroying the lug nuts by over tightening. The lawsuit was dismissed. The lug nuts were not a good idea since many over tighten as a normal practice.