Any owners of the new MX5400 or MX6000?

[sixdogs]

I recently traded from a L4701 to an MX6000. Physically the tractors are much different size wise. Same BH92 backhoe on each tractor. The loaders seem to be night and day different with the mx winning that battle for sure. At 11 hrs, I cannot give a full review yet but I do like the mx6000. Mine is an open station. I also added a RCD1884 to the package. The dealer had them on the lot when I went to pick up the MX6000. After putting a few hours on it mowing, I wish I would have went to an 8 ft cutter.

Was there much of a discount on the price of the BH9? It's worth it but pretty price.

 

[Bullwinkle123]

I asked about how they were going to set the tires. They told me there was no option? When I was dealing on an L model, one dealer told me he could set them either way.

Strange, my Kubota dealer offered me least 4 documented width settings for my MX5400, and that wasn't even involving spacers! IIRC. I wanna say I went with "Position 6", whatever that was, kind of the default I think. I might have gone with something wider, but I didn't want the tractor width to exceed the trailing attachment width.

 

[sixdogs]

Strange, my Kubota dealer offered me least 4 documented width settings for my MX5400, and that wasn't even involving spacers! IIRC. I wanna say I went with "Position 6", whatever that was, kind of the default I think. I might have gone with something wider, but I didn't want the tractor width to exceed the trailing attachment width.

If you have ag tires you would have multiple settings by flipping the wheels or the wheel centers.. Industrial and turf wheels are usually fixed wheels and centers so you only have one size.

 

[mxg342]

Was there much of a discount on the price of the BH9? It's worth it but pretty price.

Price for the BH92 with Subframe and 18" bucket was $10,060. Not cheap by any means but to me it is worth it.

 

[Bullwinkle123]

If you have ag tires you would have multiple settings by flipping the wheels or the wheel centers.. Industrial and turf wheels are usually fixed wheels and centers so you only have one size.

Yeah, mine are R4's, but apparently they have similar flipping options on the MX.

 

[Michael In Tennessee]

Yeah, mine are R4's, but apparently they have similar flipping options on the MX.

Correct. The MX with R4 tires has separate centers. Mine are set widest due to my hilly property.

 

[Walter A Townsend]

Good to hear the positive feed back on these units.

Hi, my name is Walter and i am a tool-a-holic, I could change if I wanted to, but what the heck, who am I kidding, I'm having too much fun!

I purchased the tractor because I needed to excavate a chunk of my property, so needed a FEL and Backhoe. I also need a rough terrain forklift. Yes I know an excavator would have been faster digging, but moving the fill would have been much slower and they make lousy forklifts, so then I would also need a skid steer, which the forks on dry pavement is very jerky or FEL, and I was only allowed one machine, so Swizz Army Knife, IE Tractor TLB it was. (In a perfect world I would have one of each, Mini Excavator, skid steer and forklift)

I currently have a L3901HST, which I choose based on the specs, and figured with blocking I could get the extra height, only to realize that it was just at least one size too small and that even though it was rated for 1155 lbs, by the time I get the forks and the lengths of steel I need to lift, the hydraulic limiter cuts out before you can even get them off the ground. To add insult to injury the L3901 is in the shop as it developed a hydraulic leak at the gasket to the port block which is right between the HST transmission and the rear end case assembly with only just over 100 hours on it. I am not even finished the excavation and no where near ready to lift the steel. Dealer was fantastic, I emailed the rep. Sunday evening, got a call first thing Monday morning and their driver was here by noon to haul the machine back to the shop, which is a few hours away. It is currently in the shop, split in half, waiting for some seals to come in.

I am now in the process of trying to determine how much of a hit I am going to take trading this unit in against a MX5400HST with LA1065 FEL and BH92. With about 100 hours of moving racks, dirt and sand well there is not much paint left on the buckets, and some crazy fool shock the bucket with a load of pebbles in it and christened the hood, only small dents but dents just the same.

Unfortunately, cab is not an option with a back hoe, only available on the ROPS units, and I am already very familiar with the dust storms these critters stir up, had my wife out with a hose wetting down the pathway to keep the dust down.

I am sure that had I gone with the MX5400 in the first place I'd already be done digging and ahead a chunk of money, but this is my first real tractor and I chose the wrong size, but then who hasn't! Seems I am not the only one to go that route.

Walter

 

[Frankenkubota]

I guess it’s easy to say, buy the bigger tractor but, $ always seems to be a factor, at least in in my life anyway.

I bought the 5800 with bh92 for just that reason, and it was a $trech. Like boats, motorcycles and guitars, as soon as I get one, I always want the better bigger one. There are times I wish I had a tiny tractor or baby skid steer. The MX with fel and bh attached is a big boy

I’m getting ready to remove the bh for the first time. I won’t say that I’m scared, but I am!

wish me luck

 

[sixdogs]

Walter--post #27--it's no problem to buy and then find you need to trade up. The MX is one heck of a tractor. I have an MX5100 now and it really is the most useful tractor I have ever had. It has power, gets it to the ground, has weight in the right places and is efficient at what it does. That's why I'm considering another, but this time adding a cab.

The engine holds lots of oil, air filers and battery easy access, short turning radius and no stuff hanging down to catch on obstacles. I do not have a BH or loader on mine since it's for AG things but It would surely handle both very well. My vote is to trade up, but bust some chops for a good price and sit on your hands for a while while negotiating.

There is a night and day difference between the L3901 and MX5400. I have an L4300 that I use to lift and pull a 1000 lb, 3 pt hitch seeder. It's all that tractor can handle, even with weights up front. I also have front weights on the MX5100 but don't really need them. It picks up the seeder at warp speed and I can roll through a field without losing control. There is just so much more heft and better weight distribution to the MX series.

Before you talk trade or private sale, clean up and detail the L3901. Maybe have one of those dent removal places take a look at that dent. It will pay off and you'll never know. Use a little touch-up paint and make everything white glove clean. No spray paint. Grease it. That's how you get better $$ out of a trade-in or sale and I've done it a lot. And a private sale is not a bad thing. You'll get more money and Kubotas sell themselves at top dollar.

Oh, FYI--post your general location since climate and soil figure in. Lots of guys won't respond otherwise.

 

[JOHNTHOMAS]

Good to hear the positive feed back on these units.

Hi, my name is Walter and i am a tool-a-holic, I could change if I wanted to, but what the heck, who am I kidding, I'm having too much fun!

I purchased the tractor because I needed to excavate a chunk of my property, so needed a FEL and Backhoe. I also need a rough terrain forklift. Yes I know an excavator would have been faster digging, but moving the fill would have been much slower and they make lousy forklifts, so then I would also need a skid steer, which the forks on dry pavement is very jerky or FEL, and I was only allowed one machine, so Swizz Army Knife, IE Tractor TLB it was. (In a perfect world I would have one of each, Mini Excavator, skid steer and forklift)

I currently have a L3901HST, which I choose based on the specs, and figured with blocking I could get the extra height, only to realize that it was just at least one size too small and that even though it was rated for 1155 lbs, by the time I get the forks and the lengths of steel I need to lift, the hydraulic limiter cuts out before you can even get them off the ground. To add insult to injury the L3901 is in the shop as it developed a hydraulic leak at the gasket to the port block which is right between the HST transmission and the rear end case assembly with only just over 100 hours on it. I am not even finished the excavation and no where near ready to lift the steel. Dealer was fantastic, I emailed the rep. Sunday evening, got a call first thing Monday morning and their driver was here by noon to haul the machine back to the shop, which is a few hours away. It is currently in the shop, split in half, waiting for some seals to come in.

I am now in the process of trying to determine how much of a hit I am going to take trading this unit in against a MX5400HST with LA1065 FEL and BH92. With about 100 hours of moving racks, dirt and sand well there is not much paint left on the buckets, and some crazy fool shock the bucket with a load of pebbles in it and christened the hood, only small dents but dents just the same.

Unfortunately, cab is not an option with a back hoe, only available on the ROPS units, and I am already very familiar with the dust storms these critters stir up, had my wife out with a hose wetting down the pathway to keep the dust down.

I am sure that had I gone with the MX5400 in the first place I'd already be done digging and ahead a chunk of money, but this is my first real tractor and I chose the wrong size, but then who hasn't! Seems I am not the only one to go that route.

Walter

I had moved up to the L3901 FEL and believed I'd finally gotten as big as I wanted but the lack of weight and lift power and less stable than the Ms and MXs per other peoples input led me back to Barlows. I traded for the MX5400 FEL and now believe I've reached my top in size tractor. It goes thru the woods knocking down small trees that would have stopped the L and seems to turn in a smaller radius and for sure has much more lift power. I did not get a BH but have a front mounted one from Titan and many attachments/implements.
I trade instead of sale since I don't get farm exemption of sales tax so it saved me $900 off state sales tax with my L3901 trade in and my L3901 had a dented fender and step and a few small issues which Barlows didn't deduct from his trade in price.
I'm happy with my trade from the L3901 to the MX5400 with a bit over 25 hours on the new MX and believe I had about 250 on the L.

 

[TxMN]

I just took delivery of my MX5400, ROPS, 6 ft rotary mower & box blade, both heavy duty LP models, and I have a LP grapple. Since I only recently purchased my property, all I have used it for is mowing some overgrown hay pasture. This is my 3rd Kubota in last 10 years. I followed suggestions and got a model one size larger than I thought I needed, which is sound advice from many on this forum. When I bought my RTV900 I asked my dealer if he had any newer model 50 hp or so tractors. The MX was one of a few models I gave him as interested in possibly, he had this tractor coming in on trade and knew it only had 30 hours, so I would get 15 months of the original warranty and the grapple was not something I thought I would use but I already see multiple uses around our property. The MX certainly handles the 6 ft cutter very well, I am partial to hydro transmission, this is my second model with that transmission. So far I am very satisfied, plenty of power and plenty of weight, as has been mentioned by many on this forum, the tractors weight is most important. I like the larger front tires also. Will be purchasing a disc harrow also very soon, now I can get a heavy model and the MX should do well with it also.

 

[Aquabird]

I am not sure about the Differences between the MX5400 and the MX6000 other than HP.
When I first got my new tractor, I was going for the L3901, but needed more FEL lifting power. I then went after the 47 Hp tractor.
while making a deal on that tractor, the dealer showed me the MX5400 and sold me on the differences.
When I got the tractor home, I felt I had gotten too big a tractor. But, after using it for a little over a month, I no longer feel that way.
I have not felt the need for more HP at least yet. It lifts a big bucket load of dirt like the bucket was empty. I powers my 72" mower also as easy. It is a lot louder than my last tractor when mowing. Even though my last tractor was only a 25Hp, this tractor is more nimble. Since the FEL sticks out further on this tractor and the fact that it is longer with the FEL, it still has trouble turning in some places without hitting the bucket.

 

[Walter A Townsend]

Walter--post #27--it's no problem to buy and then find you need to trade up. The MX is one heck of a tractor. I have an MX5100 now and it really is the most useful tractor I have ever had. It has power, gets it to the ground, has weight in the right places and is efficient at what it does. That's why I'm considering another, but this time adding a cab.

The engine holds lots of oil, air filers and battery easy access, short turning radius and no stuff hanging down to catch on obstacles. I do not have a BH or loader on mine since it's for AG things but It would surely handle both very well. My vote is to trade up, but bust some chops for a good price and sit on your hands for a while while negotiating.

There is a night and day difference between the L3901 and MX5400. I have an L4300 that I use to lift and pull a 1000 lb, 3 pt hitch seeder. It's all that tractor can handle, even with weights up front. I also have front weights on the MX5100 but don't really need them. It picks up the seeder at warp speed and I can roll through a field without losing control. There is just so much more heft and better weight distribution to the MX series.

Before you talk trade or private sale, clean up and detail the L3901. Maybe have one of those dent removal places take a look at that dent. It will pay off and you'll never know. Use a little touch-up paint and make everything white glove clean. No spray paint. Grease it. That's how you get better $$ out of a trade-in or sale and I've done it a lot. And a private sale is not a bad thing. You'll get more money and Kubotas sell themselves at top dollar.

Oh, FYI--post your general location since climate and soil figure in. Lots of guys won't respond otherwise.

Sixdogs, and others, thanks for the advice.

Updated my profile to show my location, which is Nelson, BC, Canada.

My property is located on what was probably a few thousand years ago a creek before it changed course as it is very clearly river rock that is being dug up.Here is what i have dug up so far with the L3901.



I sold the boss on buying the tractor as we were looking at about $10,000 to excavate for the new deck, plus they took a Grand Caravan that we bought from mom when dad died on trade. Mom died six months later and the van was just sitting, and I had put 1 KM on it in 4 months. My wife thought we should go with the BX23.

I started out looking at a used B2601, but it had sold just a few days before I contacted the dealer, then I worked my way up from there and was going to get the L2501, but they had no L2501s in stock but did have the L3901 so I figured it would cover most of my needs. Like I tell my clients when they are shopping for a machine tool, look for something that will cover at least 90% of your needs, and plan to farm out the balance as the machine required to get that last 10% goes up exponentially in price. Turns out I settled at about 50% not 90%. Ooops!

The tractor is already at the dealers, so not much chance to detail it. They said that it had to be under 66 hours and in A1 condition to be able to de-register otherwise it had to be dealt with as a trade in. Hopefully I will know on Monday how much of a hit I will take on the trade in.

Walter

 

[sixdogs]

Walter--good update. Thank you.

 

[choctawroseranch]

I traded in my MX5800 open station for a new MX6000 in June. I was just tired of not being able to use my tractor comfortably when I COULD use it because of heat indexes around 100 for a third of the year.I found myself with the issue of “having to Bush hog” vs. I get to Bushhog. I “have to fix the road”vs. I get to fix the road. Climate control is NICE! I wish I would have made the move sooner.

I fall into a category of Homesteader/Foodplotter. I am not a production Farmer and I am not a contractor. The MX6000 cab fit my needs and my wants.

As far as the tractor...it is a tractor. It is not a spaceship that I don’t know what a button does, can do, will do, won’t do or won’t do the same thing in a different place. I am sure those “creature comforts” are nice and I probably don’t know what I am missing on some of the luxury models but I just wanted a tractor that had AC and Heat...primarily the AC because that is when I use my tractor the most.

I got the radio, mirrors and third function installed and remotes(to be installed because the remotes are backordered). The MX6000 has as much power as I think I will ever need. I am not sure that my implements can handle anymore tractor and candidly, if I can’t get it done with this size tractor I probably need to hire the help to get it done.

I went with R4’s for stability primarily and secondly I don’t use my tractor when it is soupy muddy unless it is in an extreme case like moving a down tree out of a road after a storm. The one thing I don’t like is the lack of a tool box but there is a caddy inside the cab to put some pins and wrenches but not big enough for a hammer and such. This tractor is lite enough for a bumper pull 20 ft dual trailer (10,000lb) but you know it is back there.

The cab is spacious and seems to be well made. Engine noise is not an issue but you can hear what is going on if you listen good. The rubber floor mat has a pretty awful rubber smell for the first few times you use it. When I get my 50 hour service done I am going to get the rear wiper and rear work lights. The rear wiper primarily for tiller use because it kicks up the dust and the lights for backing up and hooking up since the days are getting shorter and I have to use my time to my advantage.

I hope this review helps you in your decision making process. I know oftentimes a tractor owner wants everybody to get the same tractor as they have and I don’t want this review to sound that way at all.

I really like this tractor for my needs but another fellow may not feel the same. I do believe that there is a market of Homesteaders/Food plotters that could get a lot of use and enjoyment out of this model and I am satisfied with my purchase so far.

what to the mirrors go for to have installed? also heard the armrest kit is good to add to the seat?

 

[sixdogs]

The mirror is around $140 and the arm rests around $60. Look on the build your own site at Kubota and it spells it all out.

 

[jyoutz]

I asked about how they were going to set the tires. They told me there was no option? When I was dealing on an L model, one dealer told me he could set them either way.
I have turf tires and the tractor seems awful wide to me, so I am not sure what they did. I do not want it wider. I only have one place where the ground has a rise to it, near the road.
When I get out there(3 miles away), I will check the width from outside rear tires. I would guess around 74"?

On my MX6000, the R4 tires are adjustable and the dealer set them to the widest position. Turf tire wheels must be different.

 

[jyoutz]

If you have ag tires you would have multiple settings by flipping the wheels or the wheel centers.. Industrial and turf wheels are usually fixed wheels and centers so you only have one size.

Nope. The industrial tires on my MX have adjustable wheel rims. What you said is correct for the L series, but not for the MX.

 

[jyoutz]

I am not sure about the Differences between the MX5400 and the MX6000 other than HP.
When I first got my new tractor, I was going for the L3901, but needed more FEL lifting power. I then went after the 47 Hp tractor.
while making a deal on that tractor, the dealer showed me the MX5400 and sold me on the differences.
When I got the tractor home, I felt I had gotten too big a tractor. But, after using it for a little over a month, I no longer feel that way.
I have not felt the need for more HP at least yet. It lifts a big bucket load of dirt like the bucket was empty. I powers my 72" mower also as easy. It is a lot louder than my last tractor when mowing. Even though my last tractor was only a 25Hp, this tractor is more nimble. Since the FEL sticks out further on this tractor and the fact that it is longer with the FEL, it still has trouble turning in some places without hitting the bucket.

The MX5400 and 6000 are identical tractors in every aspect except engine/pto hp. The main reason that one might want the 6000 is if they need to run an implement that requires 50 pto hp (maybe a small baler for example). I only wanted/needed a MX5400 but bought the 6000 because it was the only available tractor for sale.

 

[sixdogs]

The MX5400 and 6000 are identical tractors in every aspect except engine/pto hp. The main reason that one might want the 6000 is if they need to run an implement that requires 50 pto hp (maybe a small baler for example). I only wanted/needed a MX5400 but bought the 6000 because it was the only available tractor for sale.

Also, you can get either a gear or hydro trans on the MX5400 but on the MX600 the only option is a hydro. No gear trans.