Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful

   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful #11  
Yea, I guess 30 or 40 kW heat strips will soak up that load fast. I'm used to mild winters and I designed my house with dual fuel HVAC units so that I get the best of both worlds from electric and fuel consumption. When I bought my generator and built the trailer for it I did a load test on my house. With everything that I possibly needed running I was less than 40 amps. Of course one has to figure in end rush but a 25 kW handles everything for me.
 
   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful #12  
You should see what an electric on demand water heater does to a generator. Even small ones are hard on them. The large ones with 3 circuits...up to 80 amp draw are horrible.
 
   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful #13  
I bet. But keep in mind that resistive loads are not bad on a generator as long as it is sized properly. No appreciable end rush. But inductive loads are tough on one. Inductive loads are why NERC and SERC are so heavily involved in power generation and unit capability in the commercial power world.
 
   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful
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#15  
Thanks for the great suggestion. I suspect that you are right. I had not appreciated the significant difference between the aircooled and liquid cooled units.

From what my neighbor has shared, I got the feeling that the technician was floundering and out of his depth, which I found very unusual. My personal experience with generator technicians is that you guys are walk on water wizards, taking care of mechanical and electrical units that are set up for mistreatment by the very design of standby generators.

Standby generators sit around for years and then are expected to go from cold to full capacity in an extremely short period of time, and run for days or weeks. I think it is a tall order mechanically and electrically. I am always amazed and thankful when it works. I am certainly guilty of not running my portable backup generators weekly, though I do keep the fuel fresh.

I consulted for one company twenty years ago in San Diego, (not on emergency planning!), and insisted that they install a large standby generator as they were running 24x7 computing and science. A year later, we had the Enron induced rolling blackouts and they were literally the only company running in the industrial park. As a result, they thought I was some sort of genius, but all that had happened was that I noticed San Diego imported 60% of its' power on one power line, and has hurricanes and earthquakes. That didn't take a genius to say risky...

All the best,

Peter

im a generac trained service tech, however i dont work on liquid cooled units, only air cooled. (in the past i have done some basic service on some 24-48KW units, and find that they have very few issues. ). weird that a new unit isnt operational. i take it the guy that installed it probably isnt a liquid cooled service tech. you dont need to be one to buy and install the unit. your neighbor needs to get ahold of an industrial certified generac tech. they can be found on generac website. this should be 100% covered under warranty as long as unit was installed correctly. i have seen these large units installed wrong in the past. usually with too small of a fuel supply. I service 100's of air cooled units every year, and really have very few issues. during the last power outage in my area, some of my customers were under generator power for 36 straight hours. i only received 4 calls during outage, 3 were from people i never worked for before and one from a customer. on my customers unit somehow the generator breaker was shut off....few seconds later while on phone he had power again thru generator. the other 3 i was able to talk thru getting online over the phone. i really have no issues with generac as a product. but like anything there can be a lemon. Due to covid workplace restrictions, generac is over 82,000 units backordered as of a week ago. parts are also starting to be an issue. but so is everything else. go to home depot and look at electrical breakers....shelves here are empty.
 
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   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful
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#16  
I'm just curious how big her generator load actually is to have the need for a 48 kW generator. I have a 25 kW PTO generator that runs my entire house and shop with power to spare and I live in a 2800 sq ft house. In the past most of these generators had some 3rd party engine that ran primarily on LP or diesel. This one is all Generac. Which means you are tied to Generac for service. What fuel is she running, LP or NG?

We are in the boonies, so it's LPG. I did advise her to get a large, separate tank installed just for the generator.

I suspect that it is the AC loads that pushed her to 48kw. I know that my house maxes out at 25kw (I had to run a load test for the utility). Her house is probably 50% bigger, but a much more efficient design. I think that the heating is in floor radiant warm water by LP, as is the hot water, if her home is like the other houses of that design that I know.

Thanks again.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful
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#17  
Yea, I guess 30 or 40 kW heat strips will soak up that load fast. I'm used to mild winters and I designed my house with dual fuel HVAC units so that I get the best of both worlds from electric and fuel consumption. When I bought my generator and built the trailer for it I did a load test on my house. With everything that I possibly needed running I was less than 40 amps. Of course one has to figure in end rush but a 25 kW handles everything for me.

Dual fuel HVAC is definitely thinking ahead, and a great solution.

All the best,

Peter
 
   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful #18  
You should see what an electric on demand water heater does to a generator. Even small ones are hard on them. The large ones with 3 circuits...up to 80 amp draw are horrible.

I have an older Generac 27 KW diesel powered standby genset that has been flawless and it runs everything on the farm, electric HWH included. My HWH has 2, 1500 watt cal rods. Mine has a JD diesel engine (I think). I'm not fond of Generac engines at all. Know of people who have had smaller ones with oil consumption issues (air cooled 17KW units).
 
   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful #19  
We are in the boonies, so it's LPG. I did advise her to get a large, separate tank installed just for the generator.

I suspect that it is the AC loads that pushed her to 48kw. I know that my house maxes out at 25kw (I had to run a load test for the utility). Her house is probably 50% bigger, but a much more efficient design. I think that the heating is in floor radiant warm water by LP, as is the hot water, if her home is like the other houses of that design that I know.

Thanks again.

All the best,

Peter

Wow 24kw? I can run two window ACs, one hot tub pump and hot top filtering, one stove burner and well pump and some other lights and appliances and max I used was 9KW. If I used the washer and dryer ad 1.6kw to that.

For me to get to 24kw, I would have to simultaneously run washer and dryer, two elements on stove, 3 window AC, Hot tub with two jets running, heater heating and filtering, Air Compresser, well pump, heat and hot water, with 4 circulater pumps and well thats still 16kw...
 
   / Generac 48kw generator: DOA, Generac unable to repair/not helpful #20  
I can use every bit of 27KW without even running everything myself. Probably should have bought a 35KW unit instead.
 

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