Your towing rigs and trailers

[4570Man]

Give you one more chance, if you had to pull 10,000lbs around constantly, which engine would you pick, a Ford ecoboost or a 6.7L Cummins? :confused3:

For pulling 10,000 pounds every day and the option is a F-150 with a eco boost or a 3500 with a 6.7 Cummins is that even a question? Would you rather dig a 3 foot deep hole with a backhoe or shovel? But that’s really a not fair comparison. I’ll gross 40,000 with my 366 gas burner all day where a 2500 truck with the same motor won’t come close. The 6500 has the cooling to handle it and a transmission that doesn’t gain neutrals plus considerably more brakes and suspension.

 

[Snobdds]

For pulling 10,000 pounds every day and the option is a F-150 with a eco boost or a 3500 with a 6.7 Cummins is that even a question? Would you rather dig a 3 foot deep hole with a backhoe or shovel?

there was no F150 or F350 differentiation. Just motors.

What if the ecoboost was in a F350?

 

[4570Man]

there was no F150 or F350 differentiation. Just motors.

What if the ecoboost was in a F350?

For everyday use it’s still a backhoe vs shovel comparison. One engine is built for medium duty work and one is built for a glorified passenger vehicle that can haul your tractor to your hunting camp a few times a year.

 

[Snobdds]

For everyday use it’s still a backhoe vs shovel comparison. One engine is built for medium duty work and one is built for a glorified passenger vehicle that can haul your tractor to your hunting camp a few times a year.

If I could have a ecoboost in an F350 for a few times a year...take my money.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

For everyday use it’s still a backhoe vs shovel comparison. One engine is built for medium duty work and one is built for a glorified passenger vehicle that can haul your tractor to your hunting camp a few times a year.

Shoot... I just ordered another one. :laughing:

 

[Hay Dude]

For everyday use itç—´ still a backhoe vs shovel comparison. One engine is built for medium duty work and one is built for a glorified passenger vehicle that can haul your tractor to your hunting camp a few times a year.

That pretty much sums up what Ive been saying, but if someone wants to be convinced a 3L ecoboost is a tougher engine and a better choice in a truck that a 6.7L diesel, more power to him. :confused3::laughing:
The other one is just here to do his pot stirring.

 

[Hay Dude]

Shoot... I just ordered another one. :laughing:

Its perfect for you......Lightweight

 

[dodge man]

I owned a Ram with a common rail 5.9 and own a F150 now, but it’s a 5.0. Trying to compare the two just isn’t anything but an exercise on paper. The eco boost, the 5.0 are light duty engines meant for occasional towing, but you can tow with them all the time. Towing 10,000 pounds with one I don’t think will tear up the engine, something else will give up the ghost first, such as transmission or rear end. A 5.9 Cummins while making less horsepower just seems to run better when hooked to a load. It’s kind of like comparing a handgun to a rifle fun to do but each are different, better in some ways, worse in others.

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Its perfect for you......Lightweight

Lame, DuWayne.... very lame.

 

[Hay Dude]

Lame, DuWayne.... very lame.

Its simply perfect for you, seriously. :thumbsup: :laughing:

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Its simply perfect for you, seriously. :thumbsup: :laughing:

Ah... somebody thought it fit you better...

 

[nisaacs]

I think it's beneficial to debate these things, someone will learn something.

I agree, nothing wrong with a walk around the barn once in awhile, plus it relates to towing. Speaking of which, the little small block 5.9 Cummins equipped with an exhaust brake...the gassers better move over on the down hill....all mine are so equipped.

Now the 2.0 Ecoboost in my Ford Escape, I love it

 

[Snobdds]

That pretty much sums up what Ive been saying, but if someone wants to be convinced a 3L ecoboost is a tougher engine and a better choice in a truck that a 6.7L diesel, more power to him. :confused3::laughing:
The other one is just here to do his pot stirring.

It seems to me, your situation only dictates a need for a heavy duty truck, therefore all know how to do is recommend a heavy duty truck. That is easy to do as you've proved. There is no articulation, just ham fisted justifications.

For the vast majority, including me who has both an ecoboost and powerstroke, I would love something I could combine into one. An ecoboost has more than enough power to haul what I need, but the chassis is not up to the task.

Nuance is a lost art...

 

[4570Man]

It seems to me, your situation only dictates a need for a heavy duty truck, therefore all know how to do is recommend a heavy duty truck. That is easy to do as you've proved. There is no articulation, just ham fisted justifications.

For the vast majority, including me who has both an ecoboost and powerstroke, I would love something I could combine into one. An ecoboost has more than enough power to haul what I need, but the chassis is not up to the task.

Nuance is a lost art...

What would you be gaining to drop an ecoboost in a F-350 vs the new 7.3?

 

[Snobdds]

Maybe one day ford will make a 5.0 ecoboost and put it in a F350.

Problem solved.

 

[Hay Dude]

It seems to me, your situation only dictates a need for a heavy duty truck, therefore all know how to do is recommend a heavy duty truck. That is easy to do as you've proved. There is no articulation, just ham fisted justifications.

For the vast majority, including me who has both an ecoboost and powerstroke, I would love something I could combine into one. An ecoboost has more than enough power to haul what I need, but the chassis is not up to the task.

Nuance is a lost art...

Guess you conveniently skipped this post I wrote an hour ago in this thread. I think the other thing you keep forgetting is that it was you making the comparison between the thickness and strength of the ecoboost and the 6.7L Cummins. I simply responded that a 6.7 Cummins will work circles around an ecoboost and last longer doing it.
Seems like you dont take other points of view too well!!!!

 

[Snobdds]

What would you be gaining to drop an ecoboost in a F-350 vs the new 7.3?

I live in wyoming at 8,000 feet. You loose 3% of power for every 1,000 feet of elevation, I'm 24% down off the bat. The Ecoboost puts me back to square.

I waited years for a boosted production truck. Not something you have to part together to get. It's amazing to be able to be on the interstate in a 80mph head wind going up hill and not lug the motor. It's also amazing when I go skiing, to get that same performance I don't have to take my diesel, when I use to have to. It's a pain in the *** driving a diesel in a ski town, but I did and did it for years. Now I don't.

Things are different up in the thin air.

 

[Snobdds]

Guess you conveniently skipped this post I wrote an hour ago in this thread. I think the other thing you keep forgetting is that it was you making the comparison between the thickness and strength of the ecoboost and the 6.7L Cummins. I simply responded that a 6.7 Cummins will work circles around an ecoboost and last longer doing it.
Seems like you don’t take opposing points of view too well!!!!

It does have stronger internals and bigger bearing surface area's. Look it up.

It's hard to follow your logic on that post. You say it makes no sense to buy a diesel if you don't tow a certain weight. OK. You say it makes no sense to buy a diesel if you don't drive a certain mileage per year and a high load. OK . You say the diesel will last longer. Ok.

But guess what I'm a buyer of a HD truck with non of those conditions. I'm also a buyer of a light duty truck with all those conditions.

So you're not talking to me there.

 

[Hay Dude]

It does have stronger internals and bigger bearing surface area's. Look it up.

It's hard to follow your logic on that post. You say it makes no sense to buy a diesel if you don't tow a certain weight. OK. You say it makes no sense to buy a diesel if you don't drive a certain mileage per year and a high load. OK . You say the diesel will last longer. Ok.

But guess what I'm a buyer of a HD truck with non of those conditions. I'm also a buyer of a light duty truck with all those conditions.

So you're not talking to me there.

No reason to not believe what you say about stronger internals. You dont strike me as a liar or exaggerator. I would dispute the strength issue as an engine is an assembly and only as strong as its weakest link. That’s why a Cummins 6.7 is a medium duty engine with a far longer B rating than an ecoboost gas engine. So we are good there.
But to compare both engines, even if they were in the same truck, its lights out. The Cummins would do more work and last longer doing it.

The other reason a gas engine is not in a Cummins diesels league is its making almost full torque at about 1700 RPM. Gas engines much higher RPM and guzzling fuel.

 

[4570Man]

I live in wyoming at 8,000 feet. You loose 3% of power for every 1,000 feet of elevation, I'm 24% down off the bat. The Ecoboost puts me back to square.

I waited years for a boosted production truck. Not something you have to part together to get. It's amazing to be able to be on the interstate in a 80mph head wind going up hill and not lug the motor. It's also amazing when I go skiing, to get that same performance I don't have to take my diesel, when I use to have to. It's a pain in the *** driving a diesel in a ski town, but I did and did it for years. Now I don't.

Things are different up in the thin air.

Drop a turbo on the 7.3. Lol.