Battery based electric vehicles of today and tomorrow.

[Gale Hawkins]

I have a relative working as an intern this summer at GM's new EV startup factory.

Thank you. That was an interesting read.

 

[sd455dan]

Thank you. That was an interesting read.

Also Interesting just a single mention that Hamtramck Assembly Plant was also the Chevy Volt assembly plant.

Here is a drive through back when Volts/ Cruze were produced- lots and lots and lots of square feet. Good to hear that GM is stepping up American jobs and reopening a plant.

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[lman]

Charging an Electric Vehicle In Public Can Cost Triple What Fueling Up a “Gas-Guzzler” Does

Public EV charging can be ridiculously expensive. Here is what we paid to add 34 miles to a new 2022 model year EV at an EVgo charger.

www.torquenews.com

 

[Grumpycat]

Read that article about giant solar farms. Now i wonder if the huge solar arreys in calif are affecting their severe heat. I swear you cant win. Burning coal causes global temp rise. Going solar causes global temp rise.

i need to move to the top of a mountain and dig a cave.

Depends.

A PV array on the desert will cool. About 15% of the solar energy is converted to electricity vs 100% going to heat the sand. However "environmentalists" conveniently ignore the unnatural shade's affect on the desert tortoise, snakes, lizards, and flora. But dare an ORV leave a tire track? "Utter and total economic devastation!"

A PV array over grass or forest "only" converts abut 15% vs the greater amount used by photosynthesis to convert CO2 to O2.

 

[Grumpycat]

They need to work on changing the solar panels to white for the big farms and mimic the polar ice cap snow.

You didn't know snow and the polar ice caps are blackbodies? Extremely good absorbers of radiant energy. A layer of snow on the ground helps keep the ground from getting as cold as it might. The snow is extremely good at absorbing solar heat to keep things relatively warm.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Update on the New Mach E that had some problems.

Seems the Youtube video and getting a better dealer really can make a difference.

Sounds like if Ford insists on letting dealerships manage their EV sales like Nissan did they may knock the EVs in the head at the starting gate. Dealerships tacking on a $10K surcharge after the reservation price should bring Tesla more sales.

This guy thinks Ford should just leave it to the company not the dealership and do it like Tesla does it.

That $10,000 surcharge will never show up at Kelley Blue book and the other price guides. I'm not sure for tax purposes if it will be taxed or not taxed at the state level.

 

[goeduck]

Well at least not at the rate that humans fail. Not even talking FSD a Tesla that I might be driving running Auto Pilot is like 8 times less likely to be involved in an accident than when I am driving my F150.

I have been driving for a long, long time and I have never had an accident. So an average Tesla Selfie has a higher percentage than I do.

 

[grsthegreat]

I have been driving for a long, long time and I have never had an accident. So an average Tesla Selfie has a higher percentage than I do.

Same here. Never an accident. Have absolutely no need of a self driving car, and i can parallel park my extended cab f350 by myself thank you.

 

[lman]

I confess, I'm driving a tractor with a hydrostatic transmission that has no clutch. If it makes you feel better I drive a F350 with a 6 speed manual transmission. We also have a 2020 Ford Escape hybrid that has lane keeping when on cruise control. I do get tired of the alert telling me to put my hands on the steering wheel. They actually are but I guess the sensor doesn't think I'm doing enough with the steering wheel. How is a guy supposed to take a nap with that alert.

 

[NoTrespassing]

There are many AC refrigerators these days pull around 1.2 kw per day. You just have to look for them. Energy star.gov.
Yes I am off grid.

Be careful what you believe from energystar.gov That agency has been duped many times. They take claims at face value with no research. Energy Star fraud - Green Living Tips

 

[Fixastuff]

I have been driving for a long, long time and I have never had an accident. So an average Tesla Selfie has a higher percentage than I do.

You might not have but I'm guessing you've passed a few accidents along the way?

 

[Jchonline]

Be careful what you believe from energystar.gov That agency has been duped many times. They take claims at face value with no research. Energy Star fraud - Green Living Tips

Yes but it is a good starting place. Anyone that is serious about energy conservation should be measuring their own loads, period.

You are talking to someone that lives off grid my friend. I monitor every single load on my system. Unlike most grid tied folks that blindly do whatever they want...I pay attention to the loads.

The article is for grid tied people who are ignorant to their usage...as they are most likely to be duped.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Same here. Never an accident. Have absolutely no need of a self driving car, and i can parallel park my extended cab f350 by myself thank you.

You guys are fortunate to have doctors convinced you will never pass out, blow an aneurysm, have a stroke or an heart attack, etc while driving.

Locally a person developed a medical emergency and crossed the center line killing the people in both vehicles.

The arthritis has totally fused my spine so I have no head movement and limited range of motion in my shoulders and arms so I really don't need to be in a vehicle crash regardless who may be at fault.

My wife and daughter were seriously impacted in our Leaf when the Toyota van ran a red light. Another half second and the van would have cleared the intersection. My daughter's focus was on the car signaling to turn left in front of her since the light had turned green.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Yes but it is a good starting place. Anyone that is serious about energy conservation should be measuring their own loads, period.

You are talking to someone that lives off grid my friend. I monitor every single load on my system. Unlike most grid tied folks that blindly do whatever they want...I pay attention to the loads.

The article is for grid tied people who are ignorant to their usage...as they are most likely to be duped.

I picked up on that point in thinking about solar. I have to find the wasted watts before considering solar plus the daughter plans to move off after college.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

This person is charging with 120 volt AC for their Tesla and driving about 700 miles a month.

 

[txdon]

We also have a 2020 Ford Escape hybrid that has lane keeping when on cruise control. I do get tired of the alert telling me to put my hands on the steering wheel. They actually are but I guess the sensor doesn't think I'm doing enough with the steering wheel. How is a guy supposed to take a nap with that alert.

My Ford Ranger and Kia also have lane assist which annoyingly tells me to keep my hands on the steering wheel when they are on the steering wheel, I just did not find the need to manually move the steering wheel to improve on the lane assist.

 

[txdon]

This person is charging with 120 volt AC for their Tesla and driving about 700 miles a month.

Quick answer at 5:21. At 23 cents per Kwh - 700 miles - $36.14

 

[Jchonline]

I picked up on that point in thinking about solar. I have to find the wasted watts before considering solar plus the daughter plans to move off after college.

Now is the time to start. It might take you months to get it all figured out.

Get a spreadsheet going and go room by room listing out everything you have that pulls a load. Get a Killawatt and use it to figure out loads on anything that plugs into a standard outlet. For everything else (240, hardwired) you will have to use a clamp multimeter if you have access to the wire (safely) or check mfg documentation (HVAC, etc). It will be an eye opener!

 

[Jchonline]

Quick answer at 5:21. At 23 cents per Kwh - 700 miles - $36.14

Her measurement is pretty flawed. She didn't track how many miles were actually driven. The car uses electricity for everything including AC, radio, etc. She is also in Palm Springs CA which is perfect weather for Lithium battery discharge efficiency. Take that to any state that has temps below 40 F and the discharge rates get bad (like 1/2 efficiency). In order to really understand it we need kWh used to charge and actual miles driven.

Really bad video and I will keep saying it...we need completely new storage technology if EV cars are to be viable replacements to ICE in the US. I suppose one could make the argument that they can be used in areas where temps don't drop...but what if one moves to a new state up North? Just doesn't work.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

A FSD demo of the latest beta version. This may apply more to the non posting readers that are interested in EV advances.