Earth's Hottest Month

[CalG]

Please feel free to school me at your leisure. How World War II shaped modern Russia

Please take this topic to a new and exciting thread!

Pretty please, With sugar on it....

 

[Steppenwolfe]

Please take this topic to a new and exciting thread!

Pretty please, With sugar on it....

Anything for you...

 

[Peace]

This was posted on the Lake Tahoe thread. It seems more appropriate to be discussed here since it involves climate change and the over heating of the planet. Seems weird, but they are actually making this work.

Fart-Collecting Backpacks For Cows Look Silly, But They May Have A Serious Impact

Saving the planet one fart at a time

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*think it was originally plowhog’s post?

 

[Jchonline]

I partially agree that its sad that desert was turned to farmland, but what are we supposed to eat?
Theres 300+ million people in this country alone. We have to have food to survive. That may be "sad" to you, but its a necessity for survival.
Maybe another viewpoint, one would say "its sad theres so many people in LA and San Fran wasting so much water which could be used to grow food"???
California IS the most populous state. Maybe some of the more whiny ones complaining about heat and drought could move to Alaska? Theres lots of room there for people and its much cooler and more rainy.
Yet they stay in CA, consuming water and food and complaining 24/7 about heat, fires, and water shortages.

Why dont we just grow things in areas where there is adequate natural irrigation? CA needs to stop trying to control nature and sending water to places it was never naturally meant to be. They are getting bit in the arse for the arrogance right now. Heck its a lesson for every state.

 

[Jchonline]

The average household in San Francisco uses 41 gallons per day...

Consuming water you would never have if it wasnt for the government foolishly creating damns/reservoirs to try and control it…then allowing uncontrolled growth of cities and irrigation of arid land repurposed to farm. Then a drought comes along for a few years and puts everything in jeopardy.

Your water travels 160 miles to get to you (Hetch Hetchy Reservoir dependent on rain and Sierra Nevada snow melt ). At least 85% of it does.

I mean come on. At some point the geniuses have to realize the water will run out if we continue to pack people in the Bay Area? The Dam was built in 1938, population about 1.5 mil in the Bay Area. Now over 7 million.

TLDR. The problem isnt how much each household uses. It’s the # of households.

 

[CalG]

Why dont we just grow things in areas where there is adequate natural irrigation? CA needs to stop trying to control nature and sending water to places it was never naturally meant to be. They are getting bit in the arse for the arrogance right now. Heck its a lesson for every state.

Well, one thing is "the climate". Here in the north east, we have a saying. "If you don't like the weather, stick around a few minutes, It will change". But it is RAINING outdoors at this very moment. We had 24 inches of rain over the previous two months.

Luther Burbank, a pioneer agriculturist was noted to having said.

"The best thing a New England farmer can do to improve his yields is Sell his land, and move to California!"

Also, Was it just two years ago the Oroville dam was topping and flooding the spillway? Where did all that water go?

The California water management program is said to offer a 5 year buffer.

 

[Torvy]

Why dont we just grow things in areas where there is adequate natural irrigation? CA needs to stop trying to control nature and sending water to places it was never naturally meant to be. They are getting bit in the arse for the arrogance right now. Heck its a lesson for every state.

You beat me to it. The farmland in California was created when it was much more difficult to transport foodstuffs. Now, there is no reason to overspend resources.

On a side note, to whomever pointed out the agreements were between the feds, not the state...California has the largest congressional delegation and gets what they want more than not. Effectively, the difference is little more than semantics. If the same thing was true about farmers in Nevada, it would be a thing.

 

[buckeyefarmer]

64° on sept 1 in MD is pretty cool.

 

[Jchonline]

Also, Was it just two years ago the Oroville dam was topping and flooding the spillway? Where did all that water go?

The California water management program is said to offer a 5 year buffer.

CA is a really big state. Orville provides water to Sacramento. Due to terrible mismanagement it was allowed to almost destroy hundreds of downstream homes/farms. It is of course the opposite of drought conditions, but the same principle. Humans trying to harness the power of nature, naively thinking we can easily control it to our bidding.

Don’t get me wrong, CA didn’t just magically create all of this. Millions of people moved there over the past decades…and the many homeless issues are related to people from out of state trying to take advantage.

I have been to CA probably 40 times in my life, and honestly the people have always been kind and friendly. I just dont like the way the government runs the state.

 

[Hay Dude]

So we must allow the entire world free entrance into our country bringing drugs, terrorism, and disease to repay sins of the past-forever.
Yep! Theres a great way to self loathe.
Sign me UP!

I look at it differently. Maybe we took those lands in a manner that is debatable. However, since then we have freed the world from oppressive dictators a number of times and many other nations as well. Mexico has had its rear end saved by us.
We paid our past sins with the deaths of probably a million or more of the US's sons.

I think its time to say we are EVEN, and more than even IMO