Off road diesel - How do you find locations?

[ning]

cetacean level

 

[Torvy]

Now I have to get my son to read all this and translate. He has an MS in ChemE, did his Master's work in biofuels. (OU -'19)

I honestly appreciate the information, but it is way over my head...now if I can get my son to have enough time to chat....

 

[ponytug]

Sorry! "Cetane" level.
@ning great thought!

The autocorrect on my end seems to really really not like cetane for some reason.

@bmaverick it seems like you have a wealth of experience with alternative fuels and keeping your machines running happily! That is awesome!

All the best,

Peter

 

[ponytug]

More information here; Biomass-based diesel - Biodiesel explained - U.S. Energy Information Administration (EIA)
Greater detail, with lots of flow charts here, but lots of chemistry;

8.2 The Reaction of Biodiesel: Transesterification | EGEE 439: Alternative Fuels from Biomass Sources

All the best,

Peter

 

[arto98607]

I don't burn a lot of diesel - but I have to admit, its alway a challenge for me to find any diesel - and I was wondering how can I find a source of off road diesel - might actually be more convenience for me and save me a few bucks. Google comes up with nothing.....do I just go to a heating oil place and ask for #2 heating oil?

I buy off-road Diesel fuel at the same local station where school buses fill up.

 

[California]

Anybody familiar with this?

Renewable Fuels | Flex Fuel E85 | Diesel HPR - Propel Fuels

Propel builds, owns & operates a network of American made renewable fuel stations. Propel’s Flex Fuel E85 ethanol and biodiesel fuels provides drivers a fuel choice that both reduces carbon emissions and America's dependency on foreign oil.

propelfuels.com

Apparently their diesel is based on restaurant grease. The unbranded 'biodiesel' stuff that crudded up my YM240 when I ran it undiluted (B100) was made in Reno from likely casino restaurant grease, by a small startup, but that was 15 years ago and hopefully this Propel fuel is better quality today. A station with Propel fuel is convenient to me and competitively priced. I'm tempted to try it. One concern is storage life, my previous experience was I bought a two year supply and I think its quality degraded.

Comments?

--------Quote, I bolded the interesting parts----------
Propel Diesel HPR is a premium fuel engineered to maximize performance of your clean diesel engine. Diesel HPR meets the ASTM D975 diesel specification (ULSD) for use in all diesel engines. Refined from recycled fats and oils, Diesel HPR outperforms both petroleum diesel and biodiesel in performance, emissions and value.

Performance
Performance formulated Diesel HPR has a cetane rating up to 75+, 40% higher than regular diesel, for smoother combustion and a better ride. Diesel HPR combusts more efficiently, which means more power and torque for your rig. And unlike biodiesel, Diesel HPR provides uncompromised cold weather performance. Diesel HPR is additized to provide excellent lubricity in all driving conditions and exceeds ULSD lubricity specification.

Renewable
Propel Diesel HPR is not biodiesel, however, it is manufactured from similar renewable biomass sources including recycled fats and oils. Refined from renewable biomass through advanced hydrotreating technology, Propel Diesel HPR meets the toughest specifications required by automotive and engine manufacturers. This allows Diesel HPR to be used by any diesel vehicle.

Air Quality and Environment
The California Air Resources Board classifies Diesel HPR, also known as renewable diesel, as an ultra-low carbon fuel. The fuel can achieve a 40-80% reduction in greenhouse gas emissions compared to fossil diesel. In addition, Propel Diesel HPR:
- Reduces NOx emissions by up to 14% and particulates (PM 2.5) by 29% compared to petroleum diesel

- Is sulfur-free, aromatics-free and virtually odorless, in 100% renewable diesel form

Outperforming B20
Diesel HPR outperforms Biodiesel B20, delivering more power and lower emissions. Diesel HPR is made from 98% renewable content, while B20 biodiesel is 20% renewable and 80% petroleum. Unlike biodiesel, Diesel HPR provides uncompromised cold weather performance.

 

[clemsonfor]

I buy off-road Diesel fuel at the same local station where school buses fill up.

School busses use ON road though

 

[4570Man]

School busses use ON road though

I guess they could burn off road if they felt like it.

 

[Williy]

I can remember many many moons ago the
people used McDonald's cooking oil in their
diesels they had two tanks one was full of
diesel and the other was full of cooking oil.
they would start their diesel with the diesel
when hot switch over to the cooking oil and
when they were going to stop switched over
to the diesel and they never had any injector
problems because they said its had to start
on vege oil and vege oil will gum up the injectors
if you stop with it.

willy

 

[California]

... and vege oil will gum up the injectors if you stop with it.

That helps explains my experience with B100, hard starting that need the starter to stay engaged while it gradually chugged up to acceptable rpm.