Why buy a Deere CUT?

[ruffdog]

Yeah, and those are 33+ year old models.

 

[bigtiller]

Then what are all the numbers at the bottom of the page?

Contact Us | John Deere US

Contact information for John Deere US.

www.deere.com

Don't know, have no use for them, didn't even know they were there.
I bought 18 tractors from my dealer over 3 decades and had 1 problem. The dealer called in the area representative and the issue was resolved immediately.

A good dealer can resolve all problems if everyone works toward a common goal and remains civil.

 

[bmaverick]

Yeah, and those are 33+ year old models.

Well, then look at the newer ones. Just look at the Yanmar engine model in the Deere and find it in the Yanmar version. Then you'll have a machine being either equal to the JD or better.

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

Ironically this showed up in my YT news feed today so I thought I would share it since we are all talking about Deere.

 

[ruffdog]

.......what ever....like I told others here with sticking brakes or stiff shifters....spray those pivots, plungers, shafts with penetrating oil.

 

[bmaverick]

Well, then look at the newer ones. Just look at the Yanmar engine model in the Deere and find it in the Yanmar version. Then you'll have a machine being either equal to the JD or better.

A good example, The JD2032R with the Yanmar 3TNV88 engine. This is also found in the Yanmar EF352T & Yanmar EX3200 (was Cub Cadet).

And the same Yanmar engine is in the TYM T394H tractor too.

If you are into maintaining vineyards, Argitech makes a 1145-4 low height tractor with the same engine as well.

The engine is found in many of the Komatsu earth mowing equipment too.

The engine is found in the JD3033R, JD2720, JD3036EN (Europe) as well.

The engine is highly utilized in stand-alone industrial applications such as backup generators.

There is a Yanmar marine version of this engine too.

So, this Yanmar engine has a high manufacturing volumes, global footprint, and wide distribution channels. Parts will be EZ-PZ to get years to come. It's been around for just shy of 2 decades.

 

[mert1925]

Basically, this subject changes according to the tastes and colors of the person.Some find the items you mention attractive and buy them, and some do not. But it's clear that JD has a quality.

 

[kcflhrc]

But it's clear that JD has a quality.

Has a quality what? Quality Product? Quality issue?

My 3032E bought brand new in January 2014 has never had a single problem. But I do take care of my stuff. It's never sat outside and has always been maintained. I couldn't be happier with my purchase. My first, only and most likely last tractor I will need.

 

[Ledgemere Farm]

Has a quality what? Quality Product? Quality issue?

My 3032E bought brand new in January 2014 has never had a single problem. But I do take care of my stuff. It's never sat outside and has always been maintained. I couldn't be happier with my purchase. My first, only and most likely last tractor I will need.

Every mechanic I’ve spoken with, regardless of tractor color, tells me most failures are from abuse/neglect. They all have occasional issues, but certainly keeping them
under cover and regular maintenance will minimize problems

 

[lostcause]

For me it's likely to always be green or orange, since both dealers are located less than 10 miles up the road, and they are both old-school designed dealerships where you can see a yard full of equipment (maybe not so much lately), a large service bay with lots of stuff in various states of repair, a big parts room... the stuff that makes you feel like you're in a tractor dealership. Odds of me taking a tractor to a dealership for service are pretty much zero, but I know that if I need to talk to someone, that's what the employees know - sales, service, and parts for those tractors.

I could get a Kioti or TYM or Bobcat, and maybe some others with a 30 to 90 minute drive, but for those brands, the dealers are still small (but growing, hopefully). Tractors are still a sideline to the business, not the prime business, so depth of parts and inventory, and even knowledge isn't as good (yet). If i needed a camper or snowmobile or ATV, then I'd be in the right place for sure.

As far as personal touch, My recent tractor was bought as a consignment off a green dealer lot two states away. I worked over the phone with a guy who had his family name on the building. His effort helped his previous customer sell the tractor off, and he even delivered the tractor to me across state lines in the pandemic for cheap, and when I was offloading he noticed the whip antenna for the radio was broken. Deal was all done and two weeks later i got a box on the doorstep with a used antenna he had. Talking while binding down I mentioned that I was going to look for a backhoe next. He told me that he didn't sell them, but I should look for a Woods not Deere because they can be had with a hydraulic thumb (I had already done my homework and that was what I was looking for anyways). Now that's the type of place I like to work with. Sadly, two months later, that family's dealerships and another dozen or so here across the Northeast were bought out by a good sized dealer that also covers a lot of Texas. Nothing bad to say about the new owners, but it's real unlikely to get the personal touch with a corporate entity.

 

[arrow]

Why buy a Deere CUT, new one is a 2038R...because my original CUT, an 855 is still running like a Deere, (it's major repair has been that it had to have its neutral switch tightened up)

What Deere was and what they ended up to be is of no comparison. Their 50 and 70 series were built quite well and some of the finest tractors they ever put their name to. (I owned both a 750 and 950 machine)
You would think with an aluminum drive case and plastic everything (which is 10 times cheaper than steel components) you would have gotten some kind of price break. Instead they went the other way thinking their green paint would disguise any subtraction of value.
They can keep their stuff.

 

[RalphVa]

They've quit putting steering brakes on their lesser hp machines. Out of the picture now. Lots of electrical issues, too.

 

[kcflhrc]

What Deere was and what they ended up to be is of no comparison. Their 50 and 70 series were built quite well and some of the finest tractors they ever put their name to. (I owned both a 750 and 950 machine)
You would think with an aluminum drive case and plastic everything (which is 10 times cheaper than steel components) you would have gotten some kind of price break. Instead they went the other way thinking their green paint would disguise any subtraction of value.
They can keep their stuff.

Speaking of paint. When I was looking at Mahindra in 2014 when I bought my JD the paint was fading already on undelivered Mahindra's. That was a big turn off. I bought Green Plastic and still not faded after 8 years

 

[bmaverick]

What Deere was and what they ended up to be is of no comparison. Their 50 and 70 series were built quite well and some of the finest tractors they ever put their name to. (I owned both a 750 and 950 machine)
You would think with an aluminum drive case and plastic everything (which is 10 times cheaper than steel components) you would have gotten some kind of price break. Instead they went the other way thinking their green paint would disguise any subtraction of value.
They can keep their stuff.

Funny you say that because Deere didn't build the 50 nor the 70 Series. Both series were built in Japan at the Yanmar manufacturing facility.

The image shows the JD850 and YM2500 (same machine, different colors) on the assembly line.

Owners of the Deere series of these compacts now utilize the Yanmar parts network because Deere has been discontinuing so many parts in the past decade.

Over at the Yanmar Tractor Owners Group, our membership has increased a good deal with Deere owners needing parts and assistance globally.

 

[arrow]

Funny you say that because Deere didn't build the 50 nor the 70 Series. Both series were built in Japan at the Yanmar manufacturing facility.

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The image shows the JD850 and YM2500 (same machine, different colors) on the assembly line.

Owners of the Deere series of these compacts now utilize the Yanmar parts network because Deere has been discontinuing so many parts in the past decade.

Over at the Yanmar Tractor Owners Group, our membership has increased a good deal with Deere owners needing parts and assistance globally.

I didn't say they "built" them.
I stated the best they "put their name to".
Yanmar built these tractors to the JD specs given to Yanmar.
They were excellent and I put mine thru he((.

 

[arrow]

Speaking of paint. When I was looking at Mahindra in 2014 when I bought my JD the paint was fading already on undelivered Mahindra's. That was a big turn off. I bought Green Plastic and still not faded after 8 years

I understand about "turn offs".
What were big turn offs to me were the JD 3032E aluminum gear case, the plastic fenders, the plastic hood and the plastic floor along with decreased work capacities.
Only thing that was "solid" to me about the JD was the price increase.

If the newer JD plastic-fantastics can do work like this in this kind of terrain and hold up to these kind of stresses for 27 years as this 750 did, then you'll change my mind.

 

[bmaverick]

I understand about "turn offs".
What were big turn offs to me were the JD 3032E aluminum gear case, the plastic fenders, the plastic hood and the plastic floor along with decreased work capacities.
Only thing that was "solid" to me about the JD was the price increase.

If the newer JD plastic-fantastics can do work like this in this kind of terrain and hold up to these kind of stresses for 27 years as this 750 did, then you'll change my mind.

WOW. Thanks for sharing. I've done that with my JD850 (aka Yanmar YM2610). Not to many people ever post logging images with out type of machines. Thanks!

 

[arrow]

WOW. Thanks for sharing. I've done that with my JD850 (aka Yanmar YM2610). Not to many people ever post logging images with out type of machines. Thanks!

Almost bought the 850 at the time (1985). Instead bought the 750 and a 950.
Sold the 950 after awhile as the 750 could do much of the work I intended for it plus I needed the money for a land purchase behind me.
My tractors do mostly 2 things. Plow snow and log.
The 750 built a 320'x80' riding ring. 18 truck loads from a 20 yd dump.
Even the truck driver, as he was dumping load after load, was surprised I was clearing the loads so quickly with "that little tractor".
It was a great machine and all my kids and some of my grand kids grew up on it.
I had a tough time letting it go but to this day, it still runs for the guy who bought it.
The year you joined TBN, we had this 27" dump.
It was also the year I sold the JD-750 with heart tugs.

 

[kcflhrc]

As with most things, things were built better back in the day. Less plastic and more metal. However, more rust also. I think most folks doing any kind of logging aren't going to buy a 3032E. However, I have had mine for 8 years and have no issue with the plastic stuff. Nothing has broke. Tractor looks and works as it did when new. I don't need a brake for each wheel, I don't need a lot of things that some people seem is necessary. But for general work, loader, brush hogging, driveway maintenance, it's more tractor than most will ever need. And the hydrostat is fantastic with the 2 pedals, hate the single pedal hydro's.

 

[hosspuller]

26 years ago, I didn't buy a CUT. Although I started out looking for a CUT. More experienced folks convinced me to buy a utility ag tractor for my acreage (30). It was wise advice looking back. Didn't have any brand loyalty since it was the first tractor. I shopped all the local brands. NH, Massey, Case, Kubota, Long, & Deere. After deciding on the size machine, I found Deere to be the most competitive. And purchased a 5200 with FEL. That year I bought the biggest lawnmower Home Depot sold. It lasted two years. I then bought a 10-year-old Deere F915 diesel commercial front mower.
Along the while, I discovered any Deere dealer can get any Deere part. Didn't have to go to AG dealer to get AG part and conversely L&G for lawn mower parts. Later on, Deere Construction dealer too.
Then wanted a backhoe. As chance happened, A Deere 310C was available for the right price.
Next machine was a lawn mower to pull the leaf vac. Again, a used Deere 102 fit the bill.
Couldn't get labor to help with handling hay bales, made with the old tractor. Bought a grapple and accumulator. Rented a skid steer to work the grapple. The SS was too slow traveling the field and tore the grass maneuvering.
Bought another tractor - Deere 5065e... Now I'm a Deere fleet. Deere dealers have served me well. Deere original parts or alternatives have been available from dealer. There is a robust aftermarket and used market available too.
I've been well pleased with Deere dealers and machines over 26 years.