Electric vehicles during a disaster

[Gee Ray]

I was listening to the radio today. An interesting topic came up. How would the people in Florida evacuate for hurricane in electric vehicles. it wouldn’t take much for the charging stations to be overwhelmed leaving thousands of motorists stranded as the storm approached.

The second part of the problem would be how do you function without a power grid to charge your electric vehicles. As of now I’ve seen the gas stations bring in generators to run the gas pumps. I don’t think there’s enough generators to recharge all the cars.

I then got to thinking about up north in the winter time and an ice storm/snow storm could also disable the power grid for a long time. One could also add in the problems with tornadoes and floods.

I thought it was an interesting question for all the greenies out there.

 

[Rustyiron]

This happened in a freak snowstorm in northern VA (I 95) last year. Lots of frozen greenmobiles just outside of DC.

 

[Doofy]

Greenies are exempt. They don't have to think about the "What-Ifs"!

 

[CobyRupert]

This feature only scratches the surface of what vehicles and their electricity storage capacity (w/ bi- directional charging) could have on energy markets and usage. It would be a revolutionary change to society like computers 1990-2022.

Can Your EV Power Your House?

Ford introduces this useful capability with its new F-150 Lightning electric pickup.

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[square1]

Got it covered

 

[Doofy]

Got it coveredView attachment 758583

Now, That's Funny!

 

[Hay Dude]

Whats worse is when evacuations begin, some will leave with only partially charged batteries, which will inevitably die and block traffic resulting in death and injury for those stuck behind the dead EVs.

Its just a matter of time before this becomes a regular event.

 

[Ken45101]

Yep! I have been saying the same thing about evacuations for months now. No one come up with any answers.

You don't need the power grid to fail in a blizzard, just a small backup on the highway and then a few dead batteries and then it will collapse, thousands of dead vehicles blocking plows and rescue vehicles. Don't forget, battery efficiency drops in cold weather and these EVs do not have excess heat to warm the cabin. IDK, how many will freeze to death? Of course there is always the green solar energy solution: you know, the June sunshine will solve the blizzard problem!

As for using your EV to power your house during a disaster, what's going to recharge the car???? Just more "green" BS that they don't have a second brain cell to think out.

 

[Doofy]

I would truly like to try an EV but I fear it would never be practical where I live.

Last year, Winter arrived the 22nd of September and never left until late April, early May. It was below zero most of that time. I am afraid the mileage would be cut drastically and I could possibly be stranded and freeze to death.

In my previous life, I had to gather water samples at my 9 schools. The route was 480 miles round trip and had to be done after midnight to get them to the Lab on time. Many nights, I saw no other vehicles on the road. I would not have tried this in any EV.

 

[/pine]

Batteries will always be the bane of electric vehicles...This is why all efforts should be being made to develop safe, economical fuel cell or similar technologies...

...The possibilities are endless for smaller scale power supplies...could eliminate a majority of last mile transmission lines...and all the problems hurricanes and other weather disasters do to the last mile infrastructure...

 

[GeneV]

I was listening to the radio today. An interesting topic came up. How would the people in Florida evacuate for hurricane in electric vehicles. it wouldn’t take much for the charging stations to be overwhelmed leaving thousands of motorists stranded as the storm approached.

The second part of the problem would be how do you function without a power grid to charge your electric vehicles. As of now I’ve seen the gas stations bring in generators to run the gas pumps. I don’t think there’s enough generators to recharge all the cars.

I then got to thinking about up north in the winter time and an ice storm/snow storm could also disable the power grid for a long time. One could also add in the problems with tornadoes and floods.

I thought it was an interesting question for all the greenies out there.

It's elemental my dear doctor Watson, all's you gotta do is bust out the generator, backfeed your electrical panel with it...so that you could plug your electric car into the outlet.

 

[Dftodd]

Got it coveredView attachment 758583

Those back bumper racks would be good as well. Just make sure the hot end is pointed away from the car

 

[SgtSluggo]

I don't think that anyone thinks EV's service every need yet. I don't think I would have only an EV if I was in a evacuation area for hurricanes.

A friend who lives locally has an EV that he charges with a solar setup and it functions well enough to do so all year round. It is, of course, significantly more efficient in the summer. He was very happy with his setup during last year's gas shortage.

I have seriously been considering an EV that had enough range to get my to work and back. The car I currently do that in will probably not make it much longer. It would never be my only option, but now I am wondering how much propane it would take for my generator to charge it if necessary.

 

[Yander]

I think they should focus on hybrid technology to reduce the fuel consumption, not EV. They do need to solve the battery life and replacement issue though. It is just starting to get real for those who bought EVs a few years ago. Look for that problem to get worse and if they don't solve it, it will bring the EV market to a screeching halt as word of mouth gets out about that.

Because you know your not going to hear about that problem in the media unless you are listening to one of the very few truthful news outlets. You can figure that out for yourself : )

 

[ruffdog]

But then, you have people that haul gasoline in shopping bags.........

 

[hosspuller]

I think they should focus on hybrid technology to reduce the fuel consumption, not EV. They do need to solve the battery life and replacement issue though. It is just starting to get real for those who bought EVs a few years ago. Look for that problem to get worse and if they don't solve it, it will bring the EV market to a screeching halt as word of mouth gets out about that.

Because you know your not going to hear about that problem in the media unless you are listening to one of the very few truthful news outlets. You can figure that out for yourself : )

Just like the phone batteries. So far battery life hasn't been an issue because most people don't keep their phone past the last few generations. I have the original Iphone SE. It's 6 years old, and the battery was replaced a few years ago. It's starting to show lowered battery capacity again.

 

[Hay Dude]

Wonder what happens to those lithium battery cars when they get submerged in flood water?

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I was listening to the radio today. An interesting topic came up. How would the people in Florida evacuate for hurricane in electric vehicles. it wouldn’t take much for the charging stations to be overwhelmed leaving thousands of motorists stranded as the storm approached.

The second part of the problem would be how do you function without a power grid to charge your electric vehicles. As of now I’ve seen the gas stations bring in generators to run the gas pumps. I don’t think there’s enough generators to recharge all the cars.

I then got to thinking about up north in the winter time and an ice storm/snow storm could also disable the power grid for a long time. One could also add in the problems with tornadoes and floods.

I thought it was an interesting question for all the greenies out there.

I live near Hwy 290, about 100 miles inland from Houston Texas. 290 is a mass exodus route from Houston, it is stupid grid locked for 150 miles all the way from Houston to Austin. So traffic is not flowing, stop and go, bumper to bumper. They have the national guard trying to help stranded motorists. Gonna be bad when the next one hits. There is a charging station in our town, I believe 6 cars at a time can charge. With hundreds of thousands on the roads, I'd hate to wait in that line.

Also the cell phone system quits working, or slows down so bad, you might can only get a short text message through.

 

[Rustyiron]

I don't think that anyone thinks EV's service every need yet. I don't think I would have only an EV if I was in a evacuation area for hurricanes.

A friend who lives locally has an EV that he charges with a solar setup and it functions well enough to do so all year round. It is, of course, significantly more efficient in the summer. He was very happy with his setup during last year's gas shortage.

I have seriously been considering an EV that had enough range to get my to work and back. The car I currently do that in will probably not make it much longer. It would never be my only option, but now I am wondering how much propane it would take for my generator to charge it if necessary.

I'm not an electrical "wizz", but I thought that charging was a 50 amp load or better. Wouldn't that take a 20 - 30 kW generator just for charging the EV, not to mention the house basic needs?

 

[Rustyiron]

I think they should focus on hybrid technology to reduce the fuel consumption, not EV. They do need to solve the battery life and replacement issue though. It is just starting to get real for those who bought EVs a few years ago. Look for that problem to get worse and if they don't solve it, it will bring the EV market to a screeching halt as word of mouth gets out about that.

Because you know your not going to hear about that problem in the media unless you are listening to one of the very few truthful news outlets. You can figure that out for yourself : )

Yes, how did they just skip over this very reasonable option until they actually design a real live unicorn (battery).