Hydraulic fluid

[DMW]

Good grief! The scam artists are tiring of making telemarketing calls and gone off into selling oil...well maybe it is oil. Or air or ....maybe you will never know because nothing would be delivered !!

I'm pretty sure that the company delivers their product. But what is unknown is the source of the oil. No refinery listed. Where did it come from? Do they refine it themselves, or repackage another refiners product. Just because a label says it meets spec, still requires due diligence. OEMs usually don't list detailed spec sheets as they often switch suppliers and formulations can change, but the refinery is normally listed in the MSDS. Triax seems to be located in a warehouse/cross docking/distribution facility in Texas.
TRIAX LUBRICANTS LLC
1809 W Frankford Rd #160, Carrollton, TX 75007

 

[nyone]

With out reading 6 pages..what's "not cheap" mean? Is it $200 a 5gal jug or $200 a gallon?

My NH fluid was $95 5gal pail vs $50 for tractor supply stuff. $50 difference may seam like alot but a set of brake pads or PTO clutch will cost alot more..then you have to also dump and fill.

 

[California]

I'm pretty sure that the company delivers their product. But what is unknown is the source of the oil. No refinery listed. Where did it come from? ... Triax seems to be located in a warehouse/cross docking/distribution facility in Texas.
TRIAX LUBRICANTS LLC
1809 W Frankford Rd #160, Carrollton, TX 75007

The plot thickens.
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In summary - Triax, selling only on Ebay and Amazon, is a drop-shipper of someone else's refinery. Maybe Warren or Amsoil? Their business activity is billing, not buckets. The BTOG post saying they use a licensed trademark while they are not listed as a licensee, isn't reassuring.

 

[jayhawk238]

I had been told a long time ago regular oil cannot be mixed with synthetic . True or false? If true what would be the best/easiest way to get all of the regular hydraulic oil out of the whole hydraulic system?

 

[JWR]

I had been told a long time ago regular oil cannot be mixed with synthetic . True or false? If true what would be the best/easiest way to get all of the regular hydraulic oil out of the whole hydraulic system?

There are many brands and varieties of "synthetic blend" oils being sold. Thinking about the history of it, I don't think they could have ever sold the first quart of synthetic oil if there was any serious conflict of it with normal petroleum oil. So I think the answer is FALSE. Now there may be some obscure pros and cons about mixing them but I doubt there is any substantial concern. So the easiest way to get all the regular oil out of the whole hydraulic system... is to simply ignore it. Don't bother trying.

 

[jayhawk238]

There are many brands and varieties of "synthetic blend" oils being sold. Thinking about the history of it, I don't think they could have ever sold the first quart of synthetic oil if there was any serious conflict of it with normal petroleum oil. So I think the answer is FALSE. Now there may be some obscure pros and cons about mixing them but I doubt there is any substantial concern. So the easiest way to get all the regular oil out of the whole hydraulic system... is to simply ignore it. Don't bother trying.

Thank you. I love your answer!! That makes the job so much quicker and not as messy.

 

[Williy]

I will never purchase a blend of oil as you just might
as well purchase regular oil because the regular oil
in the blend becomes useless wore out?? I prefer the
pure synthetic it might cost a little more but for the extra
hours or mileage its worth it! About the only thing I like
blended is a drink lemon & water

willy

 

[rScotty]

I will never purchase a blend of oil as you just might
as well purchase regular oil because the regular oil
in the blend becomes useless wore out?? I prefer the
pure synthetic it might cost a little more but for the extra
hours or mileage its worth it! About the only thing I like
blended is a drink lemon & water

willy

I never could figure out "blended or semi-synthetic oils".

By their own rules, the only specification the oil industry requires on trans/hydraulic oils is simple viscosity.
The industry doesn't require anything about purity, lubrication, heat resistance, additives, or compatibility.
So a blended oil could be any ratio. A splash of synthetic added to a gallon of mineral oil would be "blended", and sell for more money per gallon.

Oh... I guess I just figured it out.

rScotty

 

[California]

I replaced the fluid and filter when I bought the used 3-point backhoe. It has its own separate sump.

Then I replaced the fluid and filter after 10 years. The fluid came out clean, lightly tinted, no water. I put a sample in a jar. 2 years later that sample hasn't changed, no layers or sediment in the bottom. This backhoe is used only a few hours per year to remove orchard stumps. Seems to me that fluid could have stayed in there indefinitely.

Followup to my post a week ago. Here's the sample I set aside when I replaced the UTF in my occasional-use backhoe. Photo after standing 1.5 years, and the text I set it on for the photo is readable.

Autozone (Warren) 303 UTF after ten years use in a now 40 year old backhoe. I used a suction pump to drain the hoe's tank, no water or debris found. To me this sample indicates the fluid could have stayed in there longer.

(After reading all the criticism of 303 I used TSC's Traveller UTF for the refill).

 

[JWR]

Yep California. That is a good data point. If I ran any of my machines 1000 hr a year or something I'd be probably changing the trans fluid every time I rebuilt the engine at 5000 hrs. Since that will never happen in my lifetime,,, I'm not changing transmission fluid.