2022 Outlander Max 6x6

[airbiscuit]

We're not being critical of your machine. We're just trying to understand how plowing is actually untaxing to the engine. If that were the case, race cars would have plows on the front

 

[plastikosmd]

You can’t just judge machine stress on throttle input

My 557 cubic inch ford makes max torque at like 1400rpm
(and that has broken 3 transmissions and 2 rearends)
An electric motor makes 100% at zero rpm

 

[ArlyA]

The two jobs of using atv's and utv's for plowing the towing implements are not theoretical to me. I practice excaclty that.

 

[plastikosmd]

Awesome!
GL

 

[jjeff]

Hmm this has gotten more interesting. I've blown out a transfer case on a old Ford f150 a long time ago plowing. However rarely damaged drivetrains on any of my Yamaha ATVs plowing in almost 20yrs. I believe imo when plowing or towing I make sure it's in low gear if it has it and it's probably helped minimize stress on certain drivetrain and engine components, anyways I've also smoked countless belts and damaged associated components on older snowmobiles towing sleds through deeper snow. Back to ops topic Im curious why one of the fixes mentioned in videos is to buy a thicker less flexible rubber boot to mate the shaft and differential, I assume it's to better help keep the splines mated together when the shaft moves in and out due to suspension articulation?
For me due to these informative posts I'll be leary to buy can am ATVs and more leary than before to buy and run pods on atvs. Which Ive never owned or operated one with either.

 

[Hoss710]

after seeing how the splines are worn . It looks like bad heat treatment to me . those splines shouldn't wear like that at all. If anything I could see it break if it were a issue of strength. but it isn't, they are worn away due to being to soft. just my 2 cents.

 

[Rustyiron]

HP & torque will either make you go, or with enough resistance find something to break. I think Arly found the weak link and hopefully it was just a bad part not a design issue.
The tracks or pods actually increase the mechanical advantage reducing the final drive ratio the difference between the circumference of the factory tire size to the size of the *drive sprocket on the pods. This imitating a super low "gear" that the shaft just may not be up to. At 10 hours it's reasonable to think it's a bad part.
* the drive sprockets are closer to the size (diameter) of the wheel alone.

 

[ruffdog]

I think a shaft with u-joints on each end would have been sturdier than the small spline set-up.

 

[Sawyer Rob]

While plowing the throttle is at 1/4 or less. Kinda low. While towing some implement and in deep, fresh snow I can hold the throttle at 100% and leave it there. But plowing takes more?

Apples and oranges!

What if you are pulling a load on a nice hardpacked groomed trail on the level? That would be = to plowing in good conditions like you are trying to compare to.

Unless you have some magic machine that knows the difference between pulling and pushing, an equal load on the front or back of it, will put the same load on the driveline.

SR

 

[Snobdds]

BRP needs to talk to Toyota on how to heat treat metal. That is just bad manufacturing.

Plowing is hard on a machine. Whenever you stop a moving machine because you physically can't move forward anymore...it's hard on it.