Keep politics out of it.

[Snobdds]

An admission of guilt? Do you feel singled out?

I will respond to this rookie response with a pro level response that avoids all personal subjections.

There* are some that feel their past makes them* a perfect mother hen...

 

[Snobdds]

You are over your head.

He would have never lasted circa 2017 unfriendly politics...

 

[rScotty]

What happened? When I left this morning, the discussion seemed to be on education and economics. Thoughtful subjects, worth some discussion, and a long way from politics. Isn't there some better way to redirect threads other than shutting the whole thing down?
rScotty

 

[Cahaba Valley Farm]

What happened? When I left this morning, the discussion seemed to be on education and economics. Thoughtful subjects, worth some discussion, and a long way from politics. Isn't there some better way to redirect threads other than shutting the whole thing down?
rScotty

I am asking the same question Scotty. We were all having a great discussion and then I come home and find out the whole thing has been shut down. What was said? Does anybody know?

 

[ovrszd]

I think you guys would have to ask Mossroad specifically to know for sure.

 

[rScotty]

I think you guys would have to ask Mossroad specifically to know for sure.

I was working today and missed it. But Mossroad seems an unlikely source, for a couple of reasons.

One is I that I don't recall him being involved in that thread - certanly not recently.

And secondly, just picking up a discussion and throwing the whole thing out the window is a rude and petulant act - and that's just not his style.

We can't help but speculate, but maybe we should not do so with names attached.

rScotty

 

[Torvy]

It is back.

 

[Sid Post]

This is a bit of grey area for most people.

While I can see posts specifically about the current president's or the previous president's policies becoming a flame war of little positive value and distracting to the intent of this community, discussing availability and pricing is as much about government policies as anything.

• Government policy affects inflation which directly impacts the cost of goods whether a new tractor or a loaf of bread.
• Then there is the issue of plant closures due to lockdowns and related labor issues which has a direct impact on the availability and numbers of tractors for sale or pretty much any consumer item.
• Then there is the issue of finding people with the correct skills and talents to support the production of our tractors or pretty much anything for sale to the general public
• Lastly are the government policies that support or suppress trade affecting tractors or their components whether made in the USA or overseas.
• There are a lot of other examples as well but, these touch on some major points of contention with the availability and costs of our favorite tractors and related equipment.

Again, discussion of any of these topics is overtly political to some and not to others. Where does this go from grey to white or black?

 

[Snobdds]

This is a bit of grey area for most people.

While I can see posts specifically about the current president's or the previous president's policies becoming a flame war of little positive value and distracting to the intent of this community, discussing availability and pricing is as much about government policies as anything.

• Government policy affects inflation which directly impacts the cost of goods whether a new tractor or a loaf of bread.
• Then there is the issue of plant closures due to lockdowns and related labor issues which has a direct impact on the availability and numbers of tractors for sale or pretty much any consumer item.
• Then there is the issue of finding people with the correct skills and talents to support the production of our tractors or pretty much anything for sale to the general public
• Lastly are the government policies that support or suppress trade affecting tractors or their components whether made in the USA or overseas.
• There are a lot of other examples as well but, these touch on some major points of contention with the availability and costs of our favorite tractors and related equipment.

Again, discussion of any of these topics is overtly political to some and not to others. Where does this go from grey to white or black?

The goal is to offload all discussion, expect tractors, to other newly created forums...

 

[Torvy]

The biggest direction seems to be to avoid pointing directly at people or parties. I think that applies to obvious allusions to the same.

For instance... Using an example from WWII...

Discussion about how appeasement helped keep tractor prices down would be OK. Praising Neville Chamberlain for enabling a dictator would not be OK.

 

[ovrszd]

I was working today and missed it. But Mossroad seems an unlikely source, for a couple of reasons.

One is I that I don't recall him being involved in that thread - certanly not recently.

And secondly, just picking up a discussion and throwing the whole thing out the window is a rude and petulant act - and that's just not his style.

We can't help but speculate, but maybe we should not do so with names attached.

rScotty

You need to read his post at the end of that thread. I would have assumed you would have done that before commenting.

 

[Cycledude]

I THINK they were discussing guns not new tractors last time I looked.

 

[cqaigy2]

If you format your posts to say they/them instead of he/she it takes away the personal attacks.

Fooking rookies.

When were you appointed the forum mom?

Fooking Rookie

 

[ovrszd]

I THINK they were discussing guns not new tractors last time I looked.

Show me a thread with 100 posts that didn't drift.

 

[5030]

Define "political"?

I've saw you post things that I considered political, but you probably didn't.

For that reason I'm not in favor of the "you hurt my feelings" response by reporting.

Snitches abound on this website and always have...

 

[Sid Post]

Snitches abound on this website and always have...

Some people have their feelings hurt easily even when the post wasn't about them!

 

[Snobdds]

Fooking Rookie

I take the risk of getting banned when a guardrail post warrants it.

It needed to be said.

 

[dirttoys]

scootr, thanks for posting this thread. I just logged on and saw the thread has been shut down. I apparently didn't see what was said and this happened while I was away today. I have reached out to Mahammad asking to get the comments removed and the thread reopened. I ask all of you if you see a member posting something political on that thread in the future to please report the member to the moderators or send me a personal message and I will do it myself.

That seems like a less dramatic reaction. Good idea.

Best,

ed

 

[dirttoys]

Couple people jumped in - including a 20 year member! Seen him do this before. Anyway off it went down the drain... you would think a 20 yr TBN member would know better.

I bet it gets fixed, there are solutions short of the death penalty. Nice to see a fellow 773 user

Best,

ed

 

[dodge man]

I have been a member for roughly 13 years. I have had 1 post censored I think. It was a joke about a politician but I’m betting someone didn’t think it was funny. I knew better.

A few months ago I started a thread “Tell us something we don’t know”. It’s generally taken the direction I hoped it would, random facts and tidbits that people can learn from. Unfortunately it turned political and got shut down but Muhammad was nice enough to prune it and reopen it.

There are just certain things that will for sure take a bad turn. Politics, religion and gun control will spiral out of control. Just stay away from them.