Solar Farm #2, dangers involved.

[Hay Dude]

Whew, that was a windy one….
Anyway, my point is giving up our lands to cover them with very questionable chinese made solar panels, batteries and control systems sounds like a road to ruin for American energy, a huge benefit to China, and lower real estate values.
We now are at about 1/2 the global manufacturing level of the Chinese. Why make it worse?

 

[tacticalturnip]

The missus says Rome must fall for Christ to return; it's a bummer, but she certainly is the more knowledgeable theologian.

 

[bnold]

Whew, that was a windy one….
Anyway, my point is giving up our lands to cover them with very questionable chinese made solar panels, batteries and control systems sounds like a road to ruin for American energy, a huge benefit to China, and lower real estate values.
We now are at about 1/2 the global manufacturing level of the Chinese. Why make it worse?

Long winded maybe… but simplification of complex issues doesn’t do much.

The road to ruin for American energy or manufacturing is well… America.

What we chose to make too difficult to do here is easier elsewhere. So we shall choose to go elsewhere.

Let’s only manufacture things we need in the US. New law today. No ships allowed in port. Doesn’t actually work.


I’m not versed in the effects of lower residential values next to solar installations. I wouldn’t want to live 300’ or 1000’ from one. Of course my closest neighbor is about 800’ away and that is too close. Wouldn’t want to live that close to a feed lot either, but the undeveloped land on my west property line could be just that in a year, nothing I can do about it, zoned ag. Actually, I’d prefer solar over a feedlot any day.


The farm and ranch land with installations on it are increasing sharply in value here. It is actually becoming a thing, get solar on the property and in production and cash out in a sale in lieu of collecting the lease benefits over a longer term. Investors are playing some of this property.

 

[Hay Dude]

Long winded maybe… but simplification of complex issues doesn’t do much.

The road to ruin for American energy or manufacturing is well… America.

What we chose to make too difficult to do here is easier elsewhere. So we shall choose to go elsewhere.

Let’s only manufacture things we need in the US. New law today. No ships allowed in port. Doesn’t actually work.


I’m not versed in the effects of lower residential values next to solar installations. I wouldn’t want to live 300’ or 1000’ from one. Of course my closest neighbor is about 800’ away and that is too close. Wouldn’t want to live that close to a feed lot either, but the undeveloped land on my west property line could be just that in a year, nothing I can do about it, zoned ag. Actually, I’d prefer solar over a feedlot any day.


The farm and ranch land with installations on it are increasing sharply in value here. It is actually becoming a thing, get solar on the property and in production and cash out in a sale in lieu of collecting the lease benefits over a longer term. Investors are playing some of this property.

I’m opposed to covering the USA with Chinese solar panels, chinese batteries and millions of electric cars with a high content of Chinese parts.
Then you suggest I‘m a pure isolationist with nothing allowed to be imported.

Yep, you figured me out.

 

[bnold]

That will be $150/hr for your therapy session.

 

[Hay Dude]

you wish lol

 

[RSKY]

I honestly don't know how your "story" will play out with this solar farm, but I do mean this in the sincerest form... I hope you win.

I say that everyone has the right to do what they want to do on their own property, but I have not been in the position of your family members in their own position dealing with your neighbors.

My first thought is a solar panel has the right to be built on the edge of any property owner, but 1,000' away from any dwelling also makes sense. If you have enough property to lease for solar panels, 300' from your property line shouldn't really make a difference as that is only 100 yards.

In my own little world, I didn't have to make this a fight of my own. You're a pretty good man in my book for taking this up for your family,

What they want is 300' from a residence, not the property line. So the panels would be right against the property line away from the house that my grandkids live in. THAT is what has everybody so upset!

 

[RSKY]

I have to keep on correcting posters on here. THEY ARE NOT SOLAR FARMS BUT RATHER INDUSTRIAL INSTALATIONS.

One thig that seems to cloud the overall view of them and that is, the compensation is real but so is the remediation and every solar company our township investigated, the remediation was 100% the responsibility of the land owner and remediation isn't cheap either. They don't last forever (solar installations) and in the end, the landowner bears the responsibility 100%

As I have said earlier, there are three families getting the money for leasing the land to the solar company. They have been told that the land will be farmable after the lease is up. Some of our people have visited an 80-acre solar installation about an hours drive away and the soil is hard as concrete because they mixed Portland Cement with the soil and tilled it in.

The county will be on the hook for road work and problems with drainage downstream from the site. Also Mayfield Creek which flows thru the site sometimes floods out from a ten foot wide trickle to half a mile wide. The city of Mayfield has had problems with their newest elementary school being damaged by flooding. It is located about 3/4 of a mile from the creek on a '100 year' flood plain. it has flooded twice in twenty years. This is because of some minor land clearing close to the school after it was built. Now imagine two square miles with all trees removed and the ground leveled draining into the creek five miles upstream.

Who is responsible, Greengo, Banjo Creek LLC, or the landowners? Or will the City of Mayfield just have to suck it up and pay for the damages itself?

 

[RSKY]

You can do what you want with your land...within the zoning. How is it fair that they change or ignore the zoning without the consent of those directly affected? It seems to me that all zoning changes should be allowed only with the approval of the owners of the adjacent properties AND the council or board over that county or municipality. The problem for most property owners is that they cannot keep going back over and over as the developer asks the council repeatedly to make changes.

We had a small empty lot behind us in the city. It faces an arterial road and was zoned for medical offices with a bunch of rules on what could go there. The zoning was in place when the property owner bought the land. (He is a professional developer) All of us neighbors went to the council meetings to object as they wanted 10 variances to code to build a 2 story monstrosity and open it up for any type of business. We stopped them...but they kept going back and we had jobs of our own. His only job was that mess. Now they have a building that has only 1 tenant.

Another idea would be to restrict zoning changes so it a request is denied there must be a 10 year wait for another request on that property. (Or something to that effect)

Our county is not zoned.

 

[Sigarms]

What they want is 300' from a residence, not the property line. So the panels would be right against the property line away from the house that my grandkids live in. THAT is what has everybody so upset!

This is a dumb question, but are there any requirements on a minimum amount of land that is required to have one of these solar panel facilities?

100 yards away from a residential property line does not sound unreasonable to make it palatable for the people living in the area.

Both my neighbors are about 100 yards away from my house on each side, but neither have the land available to make an endeavor like this type of installation feasible IMO.