Solar Farm #2, dangers involved.

[bmaverick]

We have a solar farm in the area.

It's built to withstand high winds and damaging hail. The panels are 1/3rd the size of normal panels. Thus, it can take those large hail balls of up to 4-inches. Under each panel is a wind deflector. So wind can't under them to make into kites.

I have solar panels that are 26 years old and still going strong. No decay and they look the same as the day placed in use from 1997.

I find making power from VAWT is 2X better than solar, yet a person must live in a windy enough area to have such a great return. Plus, the VAWT takes up less space. These recycle 55-gallon plastic HDPE drums.

 

[MossRoad]

It remains yet to see if solar panel recycling will/will not be profitable.

Maybe it’ll create a few new jobs to help with the 10’s of thousands of coal, oil and NG jobs being lost in America in the very near future.

Heck there was a coal fired plant that shuttered in New Mexico. Couple hundred people lost their jobs.

Know who most of the employees were? Native Americans.

Sign me up for some chinese solar panels & batteries. Soooooo dang good for American labor!

There are two brand new natural gas power plants within 12 miles of me.
They aren't going anywhere in the near future.

 

[jyoutz]

There are two brand new natural gas power plants within 12 miles of me.
They aren't going anywhere in the near future.

We have several new NG plants that replaced coal plants. They are far more efficient and cleaner to run than the coal plants they replaced. They will be around a long time because they provide the base load energy when solar and wind aren’t at peak efficiency. And because natural gas is very abundant and cheap in my state.

 

[Mtsoxfan]

There is a lot of speculation, rumors, misinformation on solar. Is it perfect? No, but nothing is. You can find something negative about anything. My solar system (52panels) lost arguably 0 efficiency after 12 years or so. I'm not sure how panels are tested then rated for maintaining their efficiency, but mine were waranteed for 20 years. Safe bet is they do not stop working at the 20 year mark.They are rooftop mounted facing SWish. I can see points of view that they are ugly to look at in a field farm, same true with any form of energy producer. They produced some power on cloudy days, even with some snow covering. Storage was through the power company. People believe what they want about solar, oil, coal, wind, nuculear, we all have opinions. They all work though...

 

[Hay Dude]

It would be interesting to make this comparison:

Amount of land need to be covered with solar panel farms & windmills farms to supply the US with all it’s current power needs versus amount of land needed for NG & Nukes to supply the US with all it’s power needs.

Those windmills in the once beautiful Western Maryland mountains are big and ugly and cover an entire stretch of mountain range.
Now this a$$clown Murphy wants to put 1000’ tall windmills on the Jersey Shore coastline. Tall enough to see from the beaches and plenty of wooshing noise.

 

[bmaverick]

It would be interesting to make this comparison:

Amount of land need to be covered with solar panel farms & windmills farms to supply the US with all it’s current power needs versus amount of land needed for NG & Nukes to supply the US with all it’s power needs.

Those windmills in the once beautiful Western Maryland mountains are big and ugly and cover an entire stretch of mountain range.
Now this a$$clown Murphy wants to put 1000’ tall windmills on the Jersey Shore coastline. Tall enough to see from the beaches and plenty of wooshing noise.

UGH, I hate those windmill style generators. Yes, big and ugly.

I have 1 VAWT under construction and a second one right now in a parts bin. The 2 55-gallon barrels are clean and ready for pattern cutting. The internal aluminum brace bars are a good too. Just time to construct and the interface to the treadmill 90VDC motor for 400W of power generation.

I have the plans from the VAWT. These can be clean looking narrow and elegant for the little room they take up. Plus, these don't have to be a mile high in the air. At most a flag pole height. Or atop a 2 story home out of the way in the back.

 

[MossRoad]

We have several new NG plants that replaced coal plants. They are far more efficient and cleaner to run than the coal plants they replaced. They will be around a long time because they provide the base load energy when solar and wind aren’t at peak efficiency. And because natural gas is very abundant and cheap in my state.

There's a large coal power plant 30 miles west of us in Michigan City, IN that converted to NG.

Here in town, Notre Dame had 4 coal boilers for electricity and 2 NG. They decommissioned the coal 2 years ago and installed more NG. They also are just finishing up a hydro plant in downtown South Bend that will provide 7% of their electricity. They are partnered with a solar farm east of town. They're building a small solar farm on campus. They're installing 1000 geothermal wells under their south parking lots to compliment the 1500 geothermal wells that have been under their north sports fields for about 7-8 years.

There's a 1000+ acre solar farm going in west of us.

There's a 640 acre $3.5B (billion) battery plant going in the same area.

That 1000+ acre solar farm is going in right next to one of the new NG plants I mentioned above and the new battery plant.

There are several large wind farms to the southwest and southeast of us within 100 miles.

Diversified energy sources is the way to go. Coal is trending down due to economics, plain and simple.

 

[jyoutz]

There's a large coal power plant 30 miles west of us in Michigan City, IN that converted to NG.

Here in town, Notre Dame had 4 coal boilers for electricity and 2 NG. They decommissioned the coal 2 years ago and installed more NG. They also are just finishing up a hydro plant in downtown South Bend that will provide 7% of their electricity. They are partnered with a solar farm east of town. They're building a small solar farm on campus. They're installing 1000 geothermal wells under their south parking lots to compliment the 1500 geothermal wells that have been under their north sports fields for about 7-8 years.

There's a 1000+ acre solar farm going in west of us.

There's a 640 acre $3.5B (billion) battery plant going in the same area.

That 1000+ acre solar farm is going in right next to one of the new NG plants I mentioned above and the new battery plant.

There are several large wind farms to the southwest and southeast of us within 100 miles.

Diversified energy sources is the way to go. Coal is trending down due to economics, plain and simple.

If you really look at the economics of coal, it’s not a winner. Mining, rail transportation, plant cleanup, toxic waste disposal. All involving lots of labor and costs. NG is simply a pipeline into the power plant, which operates on demand, with little to no cleanup costs. The same with renewable energy sources.

 

[Cub 7275]

Once again, it is not 100 yards from the property line. It is 100 yards from the residence, that is the house the neighbors live in. One of the maps, that I did not get to see, at the first meeting with the company had neat circles drawn around the houses at 100 yards. Panels would be against the property lines outside of those circles.

Is this the proposed installation? Banjo Creek | Banjo Creek Solar


Video from that website:

 

[MAX-24-Dean]

I heard the panels lose effectiveness after 15 years, or sooner.

Link this….

See “Boom Period” paragraph.

Challenge to stop solar panels becoming a 'waste mountain'

A French factory is pioneering recycling of solar units as experts warn of a waste mountain by 2050.

www.bbc.com

Good article.

Copied from article: "Currently there is not enough silver available to build the millions of solar panels which will be required in the the transition from fossil fuels, says Mr Defrenne: "You can see where you have a production bottleneck, it's silver.""