58 MPG by 2032

[WinterDeere]

To make CO2 there has to be 2 oxygens for every carbon. Where are you getting that? Is not in the fuel during regeneration because if the fuel had that much oxygen if sparked it would burn without air.

"Passive regeneration happens when heat in the engine builds to the point where soot, or carbon, is combined with oxygen to create carbon dioxide. Since carbon dioxide is a gas, it can pass through the filter."

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[ultrarunner]

Just caught a story in passing stating the wild fires of the last few years have counteracted years of emission reductions and have left some scientists in a quandary…

One Volcano or a summer where the street light turn on at high noon with smoke so thick it’s not possible to see down the road…

Someone said man plans and the gods laugh…

 

[WinterDeere]

Just caught a story in passing stating the wild fires of the last few years have counteracted years of emission reductions and have left some scientists in a quandary…

"counteracted"? The problem is in the false language, not the numbers. It's not an "either/or", but "in addition to" problem. Without emissions reductions, the emissions of the wild fires would be on top of a higher number, rather than being argued as in place of it.

Scientists deal in numbers, news headlines and gullible readers deal in narrative.

 

[Torvy]

Pebbles in a stream. The root problem is psychological for some people. They cannot come to grips with basic facts of life like how insignificant we are in the universe. The hubris to think we have enough ability to significantly change the climate.

 

[Paystar]

Up until 2005 diesel engine manufacturers made great strides in increasing the fuel economy and exhaust emissions of their engines. Unmodified diesel engines no longer made smoke like the old mechanically injected engines.

Manufacturers could have kept perfecting that even more, until the EPA made them pre-occupied with trying to make these ridiculous emissions system work to meet unrealistic goals.

The air would have still been cleaner today if the manufacturers could have just kept focusing on what they knew worked.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

In 1978 I bought a Datsun pickup.. I could cram my Yamaha 650 Special on one side, and my Yamaha 125 3 wheeler next to it. And I could chain the tailgate up over halfway.

I got close to 25mpg when unloaded.

 

[ultrarunner]

"counteracted"? The problem is in the false language, not the numbers. It's not an "either/or", but "in addition to" problem. Without emissions reductions, the emissions of the wild fires would be on top of a higher number, rather than being argued as in place of it.

Scientists deal in numbers, news headlines and gullible readers deal in narrative.

Competing Visions perhaps?

Forests should be untouched and left to nature is a popular belief of the late 21st century where logging in some cases severely cutback and controlled burns forbidden and heaven forbid clearing for a homestead.

I am required to pay a $400 permit application fee, wait 6 weeks while the neighbors are notified by postcard and neighborhood placarded to remove a planted backyard Walnut tree that after 40 years is just to big and dropping limbs.

So what do many do… they let nature take its course.

To some trees are to be worshipped and for others a lively hood.

I remember when Yellowstone adopted a policy of natural fires to burn…

Nary a word as to emissions, air quality etc…

Maybe injecting some common sense as to is the last 20% at whatever the cost even achievable when 80% has been reached?

It’s good to have options and too often it seems a one size fits all is the easy way out for regulators?

 

[Hay Dude]

I’d like to know who blew up the Nordstream pipeline.
They contaminated the atmosphere worse than anyone.

They should be captured & prosecuted for crimes against the environment.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

I’d like to know who blew up the Nordstream pipeline.
They contaminated the atmosphere worse than anyone.

They should be captured & prosecuted for crimes against the environment.

worse than volcanoes erupting and spewing hot ash and gasses for a long time?

 

[Torvy]

worse than volcanoes erupting and spewing hot ash and gasses for a long time?

He did say worse than "anyone". As in, human contribution to pollution. Pretty sure we are not making volcanoes erupt, but if the wrong person reads this, that will be next. They already blame earthquakes on fracking. News flash...earthquakes pre-date fracking...and people.

 

[WinterDeere]

worse than volcanoes erupting and spewing hot ash and gasses for a long time?

Worse, in that one is a preventable crime, and the other is the earth doing what it does.

People arguing volcanoes putting CO2 into the atmosphere somehow cancels the need for emissions reductions from automobiles are really turning a blind eye to the actual numbers. Volcanic activity puts an average 200 Million tons of CO2 into our atmosphere each year. Automotive and industrial activity activity puts an average 24 Billion (=24,000 Million) tons of CO2 into the atmosphere each year [1]. There is just no comparison between these two.

Even if the two were equal, rather than at 120 to 1 ratio, it would still be "yes/and" rather than "either/or". One only adds to the other, get out of the "replacement" mindset.

As a gearhead, I'm not for any EV mandate that will affect my ability to buy and drive my high-horsepower ICE toys. But anyone fighting to keep every schlep driving down the highway in a minivan or Toyota Camry in ICE tech rather than BEV, is fighting a battle that just makes no sense to me.

[1] - Are Volcanoes or Humans Harder on the Atmosphere?.

 

[Hay Dude]

worse than volcanoes erupting and spewing hot ash and gasses for a long time?

Just like Torvy said.
All are bad, but blowing up the pipeline was an environmental disaster that WAS man caused. Whoever is responsible should face crimes against the environment and humanity.

Wonder why nobody wants to get to the bottom of who did that?

 

[Paystar]

Wonder why nobody wants to get to the bottom of who did that?

Because our governments and big oil are shady and the biggest criminals there are. LOL

 

[Grumpycat]

I’d like to know who blew up the Nordstream pipeline.
They contaminated the atmosphere worse than anyone.

They should be captured & prosecuted for crimes against the environment.

Can't prosecute because that will revive the event in public memory. A perfect crime. The Climate Crisis is so important to The Powers That Be, that this event must be ignored and silenced.

Almost every "climate model" in the vogue at the time of the Mt Saint Helens eruption predicted an event of that magnitude would end life on Earth. Only those near noticed anything but ash covering their homes. The rest of us had to be told it was occuring.

The Nordrstream event was another that "according to climate scientists" should have massively disrupted life on Earth. Only caused a blimp in some measurements proving the Earth is much more resilient than convenient for "the sky is falling!" so-called climate scientists.

 

[Grumpycat]

Because our governments and big oil are shady and the biggest criminals there are. LOL

Because the Nordstream event was supposedly big enough to disrupt the climate and all life on earth but did not. If prosecuted it would disprove popular climate theory. It does disprove popular climate theory, but we can pretend it does not by ignoring it. Sadly this is the way the world works today. Keep repeating it over and over "B*nomics works!" and maybe someone will believe it.

 

[ultrarunner]

And to think both GM and Toyota walked away from the California factory and some would say gifted to Tesla…

 

[Hay Dude]

Can't prosecute because that will revive the event in public memory. A perfect crime. The Climate Crisis is so important to The Powers That Be, that this event must be ignored and silenced.

Almost every "climate model" in the vogue at the time of the Mt Saint Helens eruption predicted an event of that magnitude would end life on Earth. Only those near noticed anything but ash covering their homes. The rest of us had to be told it was occuring.

The Nordrstream event was another that "according to climate scientists" should have massively disrupted life on Earth. Only caused a blimp in some measurements proving the Earth is much more resilient than convenient for "the sky is falling!" so-called climate scientists.

And we should also use the same thinking about ICE vehicles - the sky is NOT falling From them, either.
However, we need the Internal Combustion engine to survive. Going around and randomly sabotaging pipelines is not needed to survive.

That was an act of pride and brute force that was completely uncalled for. It should be pRosecuted as such. There’s a big difference between millions of people creating tailpipe emissions trying to make a living and some brain dead fool blowing up a pipeline and reducing massive amounts of methane gasses that injured the earth’s atmosphere. That order was given by ONE person.

 

[Torvy]

That order was given by ONE person.

That would be how it is supposed to work. My guess is that a group gave that one person the order.

 

[Kyle_in_Tex]

Maybe we could run ice vehicles on cow farts.
Ev is valid, but should never be mandatory. Let the free market decide without subsidies. 58 mpg is the green crowd mandating.

 

[logixjock]

And to think both GM and Toyota walked away from the California factory and some would say gifted to Tesla…

The id10t that ran the Freemont factory ended up as CEO of the company I worked for (tier 1 supplier) and brought in a bunch of his old GM cronies to help him. We went from thriving supplier with facilities in 8 states to bankrupt and the pieces sold off to 2 Canadian firms in 2.5 years. Anything GM is cancer to me.