Ram vs Dodge/Chrysler - how complete is the separation?

[Torvy]

As to the original question...

RAM is just Stellanis was of getting their truck name away from the Dodge name (whether to separate from bad history or to leverage the goodwill of the RAM name).

Like all of the former 'big 3', they share some management, development, parts, etc.

 

[Hay Dude]

As to the original question...

RAM is just Stellanis was of getting their truck name away from the Dodge name (whether to separate from bad history or to leverage the goodwill of the RAM name).

Like all of the former 'big 3', they share some management, development, parts, etc.

The change to Ram came in 2010, before Stellantis was formed. Stellantis formed in 2021 when Fiat Chrysler merged with the French PSA Group.

My 2020 Ram is made under the previous ownershi name “FCA” Fiat Chrysler.
Fiat Chrysler formed as a new corporate entity in January 2014.

 

[tacticalturnip]

The 8 speed automatics RAM uses might be the best transmissions on the market right now; I genuinely miss the transmission from my RAM 1500 more than any other one thing from that truck.

I can also attest that they're a safe truck.

 

[Hay Dude]

The 8 speed automatics RAM uses might be the best transmissions on the market right now; I genuinely miss the transmission from my RAM 1500 more than any other one thing from that truck.

I can also attest that they're a safe truck.


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The ZF-8?
Have heard a lot of good things.

 

[jyoutz]

The 8 speed automatics RAM uses might be the best transmissions on the market right now; I genuinely miss the transmission from my RAM 1500 more than any other one thing from that truck.

I can also attest that they're a safe truck.


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I have that 8-speed ZF-8 paired with a V6 Pentastar engine in my Jeep Wrangler. It is the nicest transmission I’ve ever driven. Shifting is seamless and it always seems to be in the correct gear for the speed and road conditions. Hopefully nobody was hurt in your crash. That looks bad.

 

[dieselscout80]

When Ram HD 2500/3500 were somewhat redesigned in 2019 the ZF8 speed has been in HD gas trucks and is great IMHO.

I really like my ZF eight speed!

 

[Torvy]

The change to Ram came in 2010, before Stellantis was formed. Stellantis formed in 2021 when Fiat Chrysler merged with the French PSA Group.

My 2020 Ram is made under the previous ownershi name “FCA” Fiat Chrysler.
Fiat Chrysler formed as a new corporate entity in January 2014.

Sorry, was just using the current ownership name generically. Chrysler has had a lot of ownership change in the post Iacocca era. I think we both know why...but such discussions will set off others.

 

[nisaacs]

I want one

Updated Ram Heavy Duty Coming Later This Year

https://paccarpowertrain.com/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/2024-TX-8-Brochure-Final-Digital-HiRes.pdf

What is there not to like about Ram?

 

[tacticalturnip]

The ZF-8?
Have heard a lot of good things.

It was; it never struggled to find the right gear, and had power for days. One hell of a truck.

I have that 8-speed ZF-8 paired with a V6 Pentastar engine in my Jeep Wrangler. It is the nicest transmission I’ve ever driven. Shifting is seamless and it always seems to be in the correct gear for the speed and road conditions. Hopefully nobody was hurt in your crash. That looks bad.

Fortunately, it was just me and my own damned foolishness. It was bad, but one of those situations where one has no one to blame but themselves, but sometimes we need that smack upside the head to learn. Anyhow, it was a great truck, and I would recommend them to anyone.

 

[Hay Dude]

I have the ZF-8 in my ‘20 Rubicon, too. Mines paired to the 2L turbo. It’s very responsive & fast. I just sold it to my son. He allows me to drive it anytime I want. What a great kid.

 

[hiddentacocatneddih]

The G360 was a great match in the 1 tons

 

[ruffdog]

Dodge and Ram are just brands, just like Jeep, Fiat, and Alfa Romeo are. Stellantis, or

Formerly	Chrysler Corporation (1925–1998) DaimlerChrysler (1998–2007) Chrysler LLC (2007–2009) Chrysler Group LLC (2009–2014) Fiat Chrysler Automobiles US (2014–2021)

also went through hard times like all car makers did in 2007...

" The bankruptcy resulted in Chrysler defaulting on over $4 billion in debts. In May 2011, Chrysler finished repaying its obligations to the U.S. government five years early, although the cost to the American taxpayer was $1.3 billion."

Chrysler - Wikipedia

 

[Jstpssng]

The 8 speed automatics RAM uses might be the best transmissions on the market right now; I genuinely miss the transmission from my RAM 1500 more than any other one thing from that truck.

I can also attest that they're a safe truck.


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It was; it never struggled to find the right gear, and had power for days. One hell of a truck.



Fortunately, it was just me and my own damned foolishness. It was bad, but one of those situations where one has no one to blame but themselves, but sometimes we need that smack upside the head to learn. Anyhow, it was a great truck, and I would recommend them to anyone.

Did I miss something? You don't post pictures like this then just walk away.

Glad to see that you were able to keep posting.

 

[Snobdds]

The 8 speed automatics RAM uses might be the best transmissions on the market right now; I genuinely miss the transmission from my RAM 1500 more than any other one thing from that truck.

I can also attest that they're a safe truck.


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Mercedes Benz designed that transmission, back when Chrysler and Damiler were partners.

The wife had an 8 speed in her ML500 back in 2006, when it first came out.

 

[Hay Dude]

Mercedes Benz designed that transmission, back when Chrysler and Damiler were partners.

The wife had an 8 speed in her ML500 back in 2006, when it first came out.

I thought it was a ZF? And it came out in like 2007?

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a23367341/automatic-transmission-best-zf-eight-speed/

 

[kozal01]

They are all made under the Stelantis name, Ram is just a brand of it. They all use the same OEM's for parts and for assembly.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Did I miss something? You don't post pictures like this then just walk away.

Glad to see that you were able to keep posting.

Oh I've posted the photo before; the accident is going on 2 years ago, and I'm just lucky I didn't kill myself or anyone else. If you'd like to know details I don't mind, but I'd rather do it through PM.

 

[dieselscout80]

I thought it was a ZF?

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a23367341/automatic-transmission-best-zf-eight-speed/

It is a ZF transmission.

 

[Snobdds]

I thought it was a ZF? And it came out in like 2007?

https://www.caranddriver.com/features/a23367341/automatic-transmission-best-zf-eight-speed/

Your right.

I guess Daimler did not allow Chrysler to use that transmission.

 

[WinterDeere]

No. I made myself a promise to never buy another Silverado. I intend to keep that promise

Ditto. Unfortunately, it took me more than one, to learn my lesson.

My last two pickups have been a Dodge and a Ram, and have caused me fewer problems than any other trucks I've ever owned, despite being used harder. Go figure, even I wasn't expecting that, when I made the switch.