2001 PT425 Kohler CH25 Oil Leak - Pull The Engine

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Then stop for lunch
 
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I dislike diesel. ;)

Can't stand the smell of it if it gets on my clothes. And, I've never failed to get a gas engine to start in cold weather. The little CH25 Kohler has started as low as -15F with just a shot of starting fluid.

Diesels, on the other hand... I used to work with a lot of them when I worked at the airport back in the 70s and 80s. Gelled fuel was the biggest problem. All required pre-heating. All cost a lot more, etc.

Now it does not get as cold here as it used to, but I need it to start if it does. I don't want to have to treat fuel, pre-heat, etc.

When you think about a machine like the PT425, all it is is an engine spinning pumps. 25HP is 25HP, no matter what makes it. The pumps do not know. I'll lose traction and spin the tires way before the engine bogs down.

In my opinion... hahahahaha, I see no need for a diesel for my own uses.

For that matter, my first tractor was an IH2500b tractor loader. 8000# machine. 50PTO hp. Cab. Dedicated loader on the front and 3pt hitch on the rear. It was hydrostatic and had a gas engine.

Did I mention I dislike diesel? 🙃
Diesels are much more efficient and longer lasting as well and as far as fuel gelling in cold weather, a shot of Power Service silver label cures that issue no sweat. One thing to keep in mind is a diesel will be purring along, long after that gas motor is completely shot.
 
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Diesels are much more efficient and longer lasting as well and as far as fuel gelling in cold weather, a shot of Power Service silver label cures that issue no sweat. One thing to keep in mind is a diesel will be purring along, long after that gas motor is completely shot.
And much more expensive, and too large to fit in the unit...
 
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My 2001 PT425 developed an oil leak. About 1/2 a quart every 20 minutes. Can't seem to locate it, other than a pool of oil under the engine. So time to pull the engine, put it on a stand, clean it up, and run it to locate the leak.

Trying to avoid disconnecting hydraulic hoses.

Pulled the gas tank and fuel pump all on the bracket. Just 4 bolts and a hose clamp.
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Pulled the muffler. 4 nuts. Didn't break the exhaust studs this time. 🙃
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Pulled the battery.
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Unmounted the hydroback assembly.
Disconnected the wiring harness and positive battery cable from the starter.

Disconnected the tram pump from the mount on the front.
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Disconnected the PTO pumps from the engine on the rear.
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Removed the 4 bolts that hold the engine mount to the bottom of the tub.
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Started lifting the engine and found one (1) hydraulic hose that goes through the engine mount. Grr.
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Pulled the right rear tire, cleaned the fitting, bagged it and pulled the hose.
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Pulled the engine.
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Took about an hour and a half. Overall, not too bad.
I'm going to get a cap/plug kit and pull the hoses off the pumps, reassemble everything after locating and repairing the oil leak, and put it all back in as one unit. That will be much easier.
I repaired an oil leak on a friends Xmark o-turn with a Kohler 26hp. it was the crank seal. another person replaced it twice, still leaked. I inspected it and kept cleaning and looking at the seal when it was seeping. it was leaking around the outside of the seal, I got a new one and put a light dab of silicone around it and installed, problem solved,fortunatly they also had a big forklift so we raised it up in the air & I removed the pto clutch then the seal. then put it back together
 
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Got the oil cooler back on with the new gasket. Started putting engine shrouds back on.

Pulled the tram pump out of the engine tub. Marked all the hoses and pump ports with color-coded zip ties. Will mount that on the engine once the shrouds are all on.

Went to remove the PTO pumps from the tub. I'm out of fittings and caps of the correct size. So I ordered a second set of caps and plugs. Will arrive Wednesday.

Used some down time to clean out the tub. May paint it after the other pump is out. Lots of surface rust in there, although the leaking oil did a good job of slowing it! 🙃
 
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Getting new paint to stick might be a challenge.
 
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I repaired an oil leak on a friends Xmark o-turn with a Kohler 26hp. it was the crank seal. another person replaced it twice, still leaked. I inspected it and kept cleaning and looking at the seal when it was seeping. it was leaking around the outside of the seal, I got a new one and put a light dab of silicone around it and installed, problem solved,fortunatly they also had a big forklift so we raised it up in the air & I removed the pto clutch then the seal. then put it back together

Silicone works and many of us have used it on oil seals just like you did.

There is very good alternative which I am using often:

Locktite 515 Anerobic Gasket Maker


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