NH is it a Yeah or Neh?

[Stainless_Charlie]

I’m new to the tractor world and thinking about buying a NH 50-70hp around 2015+ mark and wanted user input on the brand and how easy to get repaired versus green, red and orange. Taking aside all brands have lemons, over all what say you?

 

[mojoinco]

I think you need to look around for local dealers. There are several good brands, but if you don't have any dealer near by it may matter a lot. Most/all brands in that range will require software to do more than a modest amount of work. My 1999 tractor did just to reset the clutch when a sensor failed. Otherwise not a problem that wasn't relatively simple to fix. Didn't matter if I repaired the sensor, I couldn't clear the fault and enable the clutch. At that time my local Deere dealer held a license with NH (they were a former NH dealer) and was able to repair, and enable the clutch. No longer.

You also need to look at some other items that you may not (as I don't have a clue about your knowledge level) be aware of: EGR, DEF, etc. And then there are all the details any given model has for features. Good luck with your search!

 

[garry1p]

While price isn't everything dealership is.
You don't want to be hauling your tractor mega miles for warranty service.
If you can, ask around and visit the local dealerships

Since you are new to tractors you might want to test drive as many as you can before making up your mind.

Lots of things to think about. Budget, cab/no cab, major usage, number of implements etc.

 

[Stainless_Charlie]

@garry1p @mojoinco Thanks for the valuable input and advice.

There is only one dealer here, and I really don’t want to buy new, $$$ vs used $$.

Yes I understand it “may” cost me in the end, but at the same time I haven’t heard amazing things about the local dealer, combined with the fact that I’ve already had them quote me and it was in the $75,000 range 50hp with three implements: Bucket, box blade, and a bush hog. Versus buying used where I’m seeing $30k for the same setup… $45k is a pretty significant amount, but maybe not.

The NH dealer is 80 miles away. So it’s not that bad if I’m forced to go.

 

[garry1p]

OPPS I didn't catch the 2015 part, for me $45K is a big amount, used is always a good option, also no warranty no need to go to NH, dealer parts are available on line you or anyone can work on it.
Maybe someone will chime in with the answers my LS has a different engine than the 2015.

 

[Happy in NC]

I love my NH TC45d. It's a workhorse that has taken a lot of abuse and heavy work. Mine is 2003
Paid 17k with just under 300 hours about 5 years ago

 

[nyone]

no warranty no need to go to NH, dealer parts are available on line you

That's true to a point but I believe at the HP and year the OP is looking at this will be a emissions machine and most of that work is dealer only.

Love my 23yr old tc40. Everything is mechanical and no emissions or computers.

 

[Stainless_Charlie]

Still wanting peoples input on NH…

That's true to a point but I believe at the HP and year the OP is looking at this will be a emissions machine and most of that work is dealer only.

Love my 23yr old tc40. Everything is mechanical and no emissions or computers.

yeah, this is something I do need to take more into consideration. I’m going to put in some time to find a chart outlining years and emissions.

An old timer friend of mine is pushing me hard towards OLD machines but I’m worried about hydraulics and that costing me much more in time and money.

I’m sure there’s a balance in there, fairly updated 2000’s machine with easy to deal with emissions.

 

[Stainless_Charlie]

OPPS I didn't catch the 2015 part, for me $45K is a big amount, used is always a good option, also no warranty no need to go to NH, dealer parts are available on line you or anyone can work on it.
Maybe someone will chime in with the answers my LS has a different engine than the 2015.

I’m looking at a BOOMER 54D because I really like the mid-deck mower option and cvt transmission.

My use case is unique! We just bought a drive-in and currently it’s in rough shape, so it will require tilling/plow, then racking, and then grading/box blade. Once that is done, it’s a mowing the front and back of the screen BUT there’s 5 acres of back lot that’s untouched that I need to do a lot of moving of dirty to level and prepare for RV/Tiny homes.

Thus looking at something powerful enough to do several days of back to back work, while small enough that I can train an employee on to mow the lawns and grade the gravel in the drive-in.

 

[Rockbadchild]

I don't think there is anything wrong with New Holland and I haven't heard anything negative as far as brand I would put them in the upper mid tier brands, right next to Massey Fergusson.

 

[Stainless_Charlie]

I don't think there is anything wrong with New Holland and I haven't heard anything negative as far as brand I would put them in the upper mid tier brand compare to Massey Fergusson.

Massey is the local dealer and they just dropped TY to pick up Massey but they didn’t quote me Massey because they didn’t have a 50 just a 70, which was quit more.

 

[WM75Guy]

NH makes reliable tractors with good parts availability, equivalent to a Deere or Kubota. I have 3 NH tractors, a 2019 Workmaster 75, the 2004 TC40DA, and a 2023 25S. Mine go to the dealer for service and major repairs. Minor stuff such as switches or hydraulic hoses I do myself. Parts are readily available, even for my 2004 TC40DA. The TC series are workhorses, made by Shibaura.for NH. Newer CUTs are made by LS for NH. A 40 hp like my TC40DA will do the work like you described without a problem and without any DPF emission devices or regens to worry about.

As far as mowing, I would much rather use a rotary cutter or 3pt mount finish mower than a mid-mount mower. I have both for my 2 larger tractors and they are far more pleasant to use. The mid-mount on the 25S throws out a lot of dust and grass that covers me and the radiator.

 

[jyoutz]

I’m looking at a BOOMER 54D because I really like the mid-deck mower option and cvt transmission.

My use case is unique! We just bought a drive-in and currently it’s in rough shape, so it will require tilling/plow, then racking, and then grading/box blade. Once that is done, it’s a mowing the front and back of the screen BUT there’s 5 acres of back lot that’s untouched that I need to do a lot of moving of dirty to level and prepare for RV/Tiny homes.

Thus looking at something powerful enough to do several days of back to back work, while small enough that I can train an employee on to mow the lawns and grade the gravel in the drive-in.

I would not buy a mid mount mower for anything but a small compact or subcompact tractor for use on green lawn. Mid mount mowers are’t good for tall grass and weeds and especially not for dry grass. The chaff and dust produced by a mid mount mower will choke you and your radiator, resulting in overheating. And you will cuss installing removing it when you need to do tractor work.

 

[Harry in Ky]

I’m new to the tractor world and thinking about buying a NH 50-70hp around 2015+ mark and wanted user input on the brand and how easy to get repaired versus green, red and orange. Taking aside all brands have lemons, over all what say you?

If you're concerned about lemons, be aware ANYTHING 2015+ has yellow all over it, and can easily leave a sour taste in your mouth.

 

[EddieWalker]

I have a New Holland backhoe, and it's been very impressive. I can't speak about their ag tractors, but on the construction side, New Holland is very frustrating to deal with on buying parts. I've gotten to know the guys at the Parts Counter, and they have been very helpful in suggesting other sources to buy parts from because of how bad their pricing has become.

From what I understand, New Holland and Case are the same thing, just different paint color. I like Red paint a lot better then Blue, so when I was looking at buying another tractor a few years ago, Case was at the top of my list.

In the end, I went with Massey Ferguson and bought a brand new cabbed 4707 with zero percent interest. I've had it over two years now and it's really impressed me. PR Equipment has a video comparing the Massey to the Case tractor, and another comparing the Massey to the Deere that are worth watching. There are some differences that I felt made the Massey a better tractor for the money, and in the 70hp range.

 

[Stainless_Charlie]

I would not buy a mid mount mower for anything but a small compact or subcompact tractor for use on green lawn. Mid mount mowers are’t good for tall grass and weeds and especially not for dry grass. The chaff and dust produced by a mid mount mower will choke you and your radiator, resulting in overheating. And you will cuss installing removing it when you need to do tractor work.

Thanks, I didn’t think it though on how you described it, but that makes sense and so I will focus on a rear mounted mower.

 

[hodge]

I wouldn't buy a new one. I have a close friend who had two- the first was a lemon and NH took it back. The second was also a lemon- different issues than the first but neither one was able to be fixed by them. NH bought the second one back. He switched to a Kubota, and hasn't had any issues.
Manufacturers don't just take tractors back without serious issues or arm twisting, and for them to do it twice is indicative. I would explore a used one, but not new.
I don't know which model he had, but it was in the 75 hp range.

 

[nyone]

For mowing..get a ZTR. They mow way faster in way softer soil.

 

[Torvy]

Not sure where the breakpoint is, but NH (and CaseIH) use LS to build the compact models. As Eddie said, most(all?) of NH/Case models are the same. I came at buying from an IH family. Two separate dealerships in the family, including one co-owned by dad. I still bought red, too, but I got TYM red.

My point about the LS isn't to dissuade you at all. Just understand there may be huge differences in reliability and features between those made by LS for NH and those they make themselves. This may help when reviewing anecdotal evidence of problems.

Unless you are mechanically inclined, I'd be very careful about used. Some used tractors are great. Many have been abused and it's not always obvious. Caveat emptor.

 

[JasperFrank]

Eddiewalker -"I've gotten to know the guys at the Parts Counter, and they have been very helpful in suggesting other sources to buy parts from because of how bad their pricing has become." Yup. Parts prices from the dealerships are insane. And 5 minutes of online reach will find the same damn part, or other fix, for 1/2.