Buying Advice Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start

   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #181  
Stick with Kubota or Yanmar. JD is over Priced for what you get unless you get an older model that was built 100% by Yanmar. Those are harder to find because people don't want to part with them.
 
   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #182  
Stick with Kubota or Yanmar. JD is over Priced for what you get unless you get an older model that was built 100% by Yanmar. Those are harder to find because people don't want to part with them.
I owned two old Yanmar JD’s, and they were great tractors for their time, but the cost of parts on these 40 year old machines is insane, and availability is starting to become a problem.

The last one was sold when one of my steering knuckle castings cracked. I had to buy a whole new front axle assembly, because no one carried the early version of the casting on that tractor as a stand-alone part. It was 33 years old, at the time.

The one before that was sold because it was only gear drive, manual steering 4wd (oof!), and had a fixed loader that wasn’t removable. That just didn’t work for my needs. That was a 1978 model, if I recall.

I won’t knock those antiques, they were great for the time, but wouldn’t want to rely on one as my only tractor.

When is the last time Yanmar even made a CUT for Deere?
 
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   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #183  
Before I had my current excavator, I needed to clean up an acre of land on my previous property. Lots of good size trees, junk, big concrete chunks and such. I started this project with just my tractor and tools. Soon realized I needed something better.

I researched and rented a mini-ex. I got the biggest one the rental place had at the time. I worked on it for a week and got everything done except burning the piles of stumps and sticks. After that, I did all the finish work with the tractor. It MAKES a big difference with real construction equipment to get clearing done if you have the funds to do it.

If you can swing it, rent the mini-ex and clear it the way you want it, then take the rest of the cash and look for a tractor after for clean-up work.

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   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #184  
From someone who owns a tractor with a pinned bucket. I can unpin and drop my forks or bucket in two minutes on my Yanmar.
.. and attach a snow plow or forks? C’mon, there’s a reason QA tractors are bought more, and bring higher resale, than pinned bucket tractors. Very few users want to be hammering pins out and back in every time they want to change attachments, and then fabricating their own attachment mounts to fit on some odd old pin arrangement no one uses anymore.

I’d guess if you can’t afford the machine you want, and this is the deciding factor, then you do what you have to do. Or if you absolutely know you won’t want to change FEL attachments, dedicated bucket-loader scenario, then go for it. But I’d never buy a pinned bucket machine, if my intent was to have it be a multi-purpose user, changing between different attachments at-will.

Maybe the people who have never owned both just don’t get it. I’ve owned both, and would never go back. Pinned buckets are obsolete tech for the single-tractor household, IMO.
 
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   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #185  
I owned two old Yanmar JD’s, and they were great tractors for their time, but the cost of parts on these 40 year old machines is insane, and availability is starting to become a problem.

The last one was sold when one of my steering knuckle castings cracked. I had to buy a whole new front axle assembly, because no one carried the early version of the casting on that tractor as a stand-alone part. It was 33 years old, at the time.

The one before that was sold because it was only gear drive, manual steering 4wd (oof!), and had a fixed loader that wasn’t removable. That just didn’t work for my needs. That was a 1978 model, if I recall.

I won’t knock those antiques, they were great for the time, but wouldn’t want to rely on one as my only tractor.

When is the last time Yanmar even made a CUT for Deere?
The small JD4100 tractors sold in the early 2000s were made entirely by Yanmar. These were only 20hp tractors, but they were really nice for the size. I owned one for 22 trouble-free years.
 
   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #186  
The small JD4100 tractors sold in the early 2000s were made entirely by Yanmar. These were only 20hp tractors, but they were really nice for the size. I owned one for 22 trouble-free years.
That's a lot better than I thought, and I know Yanmar has always made great machines, but still... I don't know if I'd recommend this OP seek out a machine that's already 20 - 25 years old to start. Cost of parts is already climbing today on a machine of that age, and once you get past 30 - 35 years, availability of parts usually starts to become a problem.

OP was talking about 2-5 year old machines, if I recall.

If you want to get a pretty good idea of pricing on more "slightly" used tractors, check out one of the bigger resellers, like Good Works Tractors or Messicks. They usually have an assortment of machines under 10 years old, from which you can get a quick gauge on typical asking prices.
 
   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #187  
After seeing pics of the property, I'll double down that you don't need a tractor. From what I can assess, you want a tractor. And this is a tractor site, so of course, we are going to encourage you to get one. I'm seeing some tricky areas, of slope and open rock, that someone with little experience should not tackle. But pros, with the right equipment could make short work of, and then you are good to go as having defensible spaces, to immediately enjoy and build upon.
Sorry to be the contrarian here.
Edit,.... and what ever amount of fill dirt you think is enough.... double that, and know where it is coming from.
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   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #188  
I know Yanmar has always made great machines, but still... I don't know if I'd recommend this OP seek out a machine that's already 20 - 25 years old
I own a couple of Yanmars from way back then. The YM240 built in 1980 is clearly an early 70's design, alternator, regulator etc are same as early 70's Datsun.

After buying the YM240 and cleaning up a lot of prior-owner neglect in 2003, the only repairs it's needed is where my boneheaded mis-use broke something. It's never been off the property to a professional mechanic. Everything is designed to be maintained and repaired by any farmer who has a screwdriver and a crescent wrench. I like to think this specific model was what spooked Deere into contracting Yanmar to build all the under 50 hp John Deere's, Yanmar was already building tractors that Deere couldn't exceed in quality.

This model Yanmar was sold worldwide (as YM2000) so there are still replica NAPA-quality parts out there. In contrast, some of the tractors that Deere contracted to Yanmar to build, were excellent quality but Deere no longer stocks their unique parts so they really are un-supportable orphans.

I wouldn't recommend the old Yanmars and Deere's that don't have dealer support, to someone with no DIY instincts.
 
   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #189  
As the owner of a 226d, I would say the older yanmars were very high quality, but the issues tend to be owner neglect over the years since they were new.
 
   / Questions about potential purchase, not sure where to start #190  
As the owner of a [Yanmar] 226d, I would say the older yanmars were very high quality, but the issues tend to be owner neglect over the years since they were new.
Uh yeah. Pix of prior owner neglect/abuse I had to remedy in 2003. No problems since!

Hydraulic 'strainer' in the sump. I had to destroy it to get it out, the o-ring at the shoulder had turned to cement. After replacing it, subsequent fluid changes haven't shown the debris evident on this.

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More prior-owner abuse. One of the wheels has '$25' on it, so not the first time he destroyed a wheel. How????

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It was a gamble to buy this YM240 (cheap!) but I won the gamble, repairing everything when I bought it has subsequently given me 20 years of reliable service. The fundamental Yanmar quality survived all the neglect that prior owners threw at it.

Folks, don't treat an expensive new tractor like this! :)
 

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