17 Hours 4075r, It started making an odd sound. I needed to move 2000lb pallets of pellets and could not pick them up.

[dodge man]

I can’t swear to it but I think I’ve had to use my feet to stomp down the 3 point arms before if nothing is hooked up.

 

[JDW 1]

Well that's really impressive, at 65 years old jumping up and down on the draft arms. That's some real engineering John deere

 

[dodge man]

Jumping up and down isn’t the word I’d use, just push down with you foot a little, it doesn’t take much.

 

[JDW 1]

Jumping up and down isn’t the word I’d use, just push down with you foot a little, it doesn’t take much.

Yes I get what you are saying, and thanks for the reply. But 185 pounds is not enough to lower my draft arms, guess I need to eat more

 

[sd455dan]

Well that's really impressive, at 65 years old jumping up and down on the draft arms. That's some real engineering John deere

I can’t swear to it but I think I’ve had to use my feet to stomp down the 3 point arms before if nothing is hooked up.

Never had to do that on the Case 970, Ford 8N, 3000, the Rhino 554, or the British Leyland 344.


JD needs to improve their Pre delivery Inspection and dealers start sending defective new tractors back to the factory. No excuse for this on a New $68 K tractor.

Any 68 HP tractor should be able to easily lift a ton pallet out of a pick up bed.

 

[Sprinkler Fitter]

We use a pellet stove for supplemental heat.

2000 pallets? Your main heat source must be expensive then.

 

[4570Man]

2000 pallets? Your main heat source must be expensive then.

I read where he wanted to unload a pallet that weighs 2000 pounds which may be a bold ambition for the tractor without throwing off a few bags first. I don’t think he plans on unloading 2000 pallets. He should probably get a dedicated forklift if he is.

 

[sd455dan]

I read where we wanted to unload a pallet that weighs 2000 pounds which may be a bold ambition for the tractor without throwing off a few bags first. I don’t think he plans on unloading 2000 pallets. He should probably get a dedicated forklift if he is.

I may be wrong but think he was just trying to make a joke because of the pallet pellet wording.?

 

[Sprinkler Fitter]

I read where he wanted to unload a pallet that weighs 2000 pounds which may be a bold ambition for the tractor without throwing off a few bags first. I don’t think he plans on unloading 2000 pallets. He should probably get a dedicated forklift if he is.

I may be wrong but think he was just trying to make a joke because of the pallet pellet wording.?

When I replied the title and the wording in his first post said “2K pallets of pellets”, I took that as 2000 pallets of pellets, but I’m guessing it was edited

 

[kromc5]

Another JD dealer wanted to see the tractor and spent 3 hours there. Since it would not curl, they got a smaller pallet stuck on the tractor. He did not realize how weak it was and titled it down, so they had no way to lower it. They had to go to the back and sit on the ramp. They then grabbed a 4044m with the 440e economy loader, which quickly lifted and curled the same pallet. The difference was day and night, even with a lower-spec loader. The general manager was perplexed as the other JD dealer said it worked perfectly. I kept telling him they would not listen, and I could not understand why they kept saying 1500-1800 lbs max lift. The GM said he planned to call the other dealer to see how they tested. I sent the information to JD's primary contact but have not heard anything. They did not keep the tractor as they were unsure what to do and told me to keep it until they knew. I reiterated that I no longer wanted the tractor after 10 hours of use and nothing but problems.

 

[Rustyiron]

Pretty bad luck with this one for sure! Then to have 2 of you guys with stories of others... pretty bad for Deere. Corporate should ok some replacement loaners for the dealership.

 

[JDW 1]

I have lifted some logs about 24"x 20 feet long with no problem, no idea what they weigh using pallet forks and grapple. It has never failed to pick up anything. I know just how you feel about not wanting to keep it. I tried to get the dealer to extend the bumper to bumper warranty 2 years, after all of the things that were wrong with it. While the salesman agreed, nothing came of it. With John Deere track record lately I will keep it at least another year before trading it off. Hope they get yours figured out .

 

[kromc5]

Pretty bad luck with this one for sure! Then to have 2 of you guys with stories of others... pretty bad for Deere. Corporate should ok some replacement loaners for the dealership.

I'm unsure how two mechanics and a salesman at the first dealership kept saying it worked perfectly and would not listen. It was so apparently weak on any lift.

 

[kromc5]

I have lifted some logs about 24"x 20 feet long with no problem, no idea what they weigh using pallet forks and grapple. It has never failed to pick up anything. I know just how you feel about not wanting to keep it. I tried to get the dealer to extend the bumper to bumper warranty 2 years, after all of the things that were wrong with it. While the salesman agreed, nothing came of it. With John Deere track record lately I will keep it at least another year before trading it off. Hope they get yours figured out .

Of all the tractors before it, I love that it shifts perfectly; the steering is also the best. However, my faith in the dealership is greatly diminished because they ignored how weak the loader is. It's hard to fathom why they could see the problem with the loader. After the second dealer grabbed the 4044m/400e, lifted the same pallet at idle, and curled it, they understood my 440r was lifting more like a 300e.

 

[kromc5]

Update: Deere refused to take back the tractor over the phone. They had zero empathy for all the issues or for the fact that we were down on so much work due to the loader. One dealer said they would bring something out for free of charge to unload upcoming shipments as they were unsure about the repairs. As the dealer requested, I took it home last week until they could further investigate. I will have to call them again tomorrow to see if I can drop it off again.

 

[JDW 1]

Thanks for the update, hope they get it fixed

 

[Rustyiron]

Sorry about your luck. Certainly not what I'd expect from Deere.

 

[sixdogs]

The dealer doesn't want it there possibly because if it's there a certain amount of time you might have a lemon law argument. They for sure don't want it there.

It's not pleasant but ask an attorney if you want anything to happen. Nothing moves the needle unless you move it. Just my two cents.

 

[JDW 1]

Sorry about your luck. Certainly not what I'd expect from Deere.

I would have thought the same thing a few years ago with Deere. This is what I found this morning. A new hydraulic leak on top of the transmission. It looks like the tee is leaking. It just never ends with this tractor.

 

[kromc5]

Update: We had to get a loaner for deliveries. They only had a 4044m/400e, which lifted 2060-lb pallets from 48/49 inches. I had to throttle up, but the tractor lifted and curled it. Also, we unloaded a couple of 1900 lbs pallets from a 53-foot semi with no issues. Our tractor does not even budge them. We still have no timeframe for the repair; even though we requested the tractor be returned, the selling dealer refused. The driveshaft cover failed a second time on Sunday, coming from another part of the property. It was insanely loud as I was running over 20 mph, and it really shredded itself.


I forgot to add that they replaced the pump that was flowing 8.5 gpm with a brand new one, and it is now flowing 8 gpm. I stated that the JD specs show 11.2 gpm but was told they are unsure what it should be.