New 2025 Ram 1500 with hurricane engine.

[Rockbadchild]

I wouldn't mind trying one, I am sure they are torquey engines, but I wouldn't buy one, maybe in a few years and the fact that there isn't any dip sticks sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.

 

[deserteagle71]

I hate you LOL

No humidity to speak of and steel lasts forever. When's the last time you saw humidity at 3%?

I find old derelict cars out in the desert all the time and they still look good. Bet this one has been out here for around 80 years and it still looks good:

 

[coobie]

I wouldn't mind trying one, I am sure they are torquey engines, but I wouldn't buy one, maybe in a few years and the fact that there isn't any dip sticks sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.

Being a old fart I wonder how many folks today even know where the dipstick is located.How many even check there oil.

 

[Rockbadchild]

Being a old fart I wonder how many folks today even know where the dipstick is located.How many even check there oil.

I only wonder where are mines and when was the last time I checked it. I would also wonder if I ever buy a vehicle without a dipstick how much are they and what work is involve to change them.

 

[Snobdds]

My wife's mercedes never had a dipstick. It was fine. It gave a visual indicator of the fluid level in one of the screens. The other parts of the car were a giant POS.

She learned her lesson with mercedes...never again.

 

[Hay Dude]

I built my house in Steamboat with infloor heat and water drains in the garage. I was seeing flash rust on stuff even after being allowed to dry. I then put a pretty robust dehumidifying system in and that took all the moisture out from the melting. It stopped the flash rusting.

It then dawned on me that it's not really the salt, but the humidity. I asked a buddy who was chemist and he said water dissolves positive ions in the water, letting electrons move faster through metal and the result is faster rusting.

Get your cars dry people...

Agreed. And it's worse if you have a vehicle that's almost exclusively driven in bad weather, such that it never has a chance to get blown dry on the nicer days.

Back when I was driving my trucks everyday, snow or sun, they didn't rust quite so quickly. But now I drive the truck only in bad weather, and drive a sedan when it's nice out, and the trucks seem to rot twice as fast. I think they retain the moisture longer, which they picked up in the prior day(s) snow, if you don't drive them to dry them out on the dry days.

When I am forced to drive after roads are treated, I spray the undersides of our vehicles with hot water and rinse them as thoroughly as possible. I’ll spend 15 minutes on rinsing till steamy clean water is all you see.

I have never had rust on a vehicle that I have owned since new.

 

[Hay Dude]

I wouldn't mind trying one, I am sure they are torquey engines, but I wouldn't buy one, maybe in a few years and the fact that there isn't any dip sticks sounds like a nightmare waiting to happen.

Nothing like turbocharging to bring on the torque.

 

[WinterDeere]

What's worse is brine, it'll creep into places you wouldn't imagine and stick like no ones business.

I've seen a few make this claim, and honestly, I'm not buying it. Brine is simply salt in water, which is exactly what you have after rock salt has been pulverized by tires and mixed with snow. The beauty of brine is that they can cover the road surface with a small fraction of the amount of salt required, when distributing it in the form of rock salt, as so much of the rock salt ends up in the ditches on either side of the road.

Other than the amount of salt used, which is much less for brine, they are exactly the same. When it's deployed around here, applying it about 12-24 hours before a storm, it becomes a dry salt film on the road about 30 seconds after spraying.

When I am forced to drive after roads are treated, I spray the undersides of our vehicles with hot water and rinse them as thoroughly as possible. I’ll spend 15 minutes on rinsing till steamy clean water is all you see.

That would be a luxury. But when every day is filled with a half-dozen 10 - 30 minute trips, taking kids here and there or running to the local store, this quickly becomes impractical. Maybe one rinse at the end of the day would be do-able, but then still half of every day is spent with salt sitting on the vehicle.

 

[Hay Dude]

I've seen a few make this claim, and honestly, I'm not buying it. Brine is simply salt in water, which is exactly what you have after rock salt has been pulverized by tires and mixed with snow. The beauty of brine is that they can cover the road surface with a small fraction of the amount of salt required, when distributing it in the form of rock salt, as so much of the rock salt ends up in the ditches on either side of the road.

Other than the amount of salt used, which is much less for brine, they are exactly the same. When it's deployed around here, applying it about 12-24 hours before a storm, it becomes a dry salt film on the road about 30 seconds after spraying.


That would be a luxury. But when every day is filled with a half-dozen 10 - 30 minute trips, taking kids here and there or running to the local store, this quickly becomes impractical. Maybe one rinse at the end of the day would be do-able, but then still half of every day is spent with salt sitting on the vehicle.

I just wait until end of day, then hot wash the underside.
This procedure has served me well.

We had a frost proof hot water faucet installed just outside our garage for this sole purpose. We got a lot of use from it and have never had rust on our vehicles.

 

[WinterDeere]

I just wait until end of day, then hot wash the underside.
This procedure has served me well.

We had a frost proof hot water faucet installed just outside our garage for this sole purpose. We got a lot of use from it and have never had rust on our vehicles.

I guess I should consider it, but I'd have to resolve the icing on the driveway issue, as our driveway already gets dangerously icy and we have a lot of delivery vehicles in-out of the area adjacent to our garage.

I do have one spigot of softened water plumbed under our garage sink, which I can use for washing cars all winter long. It's not hot water, although I guess I could put a second spigot on the hot water tap without enormous trouble, or even a mixing valve between the two.

 

[Hay Dude]

I spent the money and got the big heavy duty frost free outdoor mixing valve and I love it.
You will spend a little more for heating the hot water, but the cost of rust is terrible.

 

[ponytug]

FWIW: More chemistry...
Brines used for deicing are often based on magnesium salts that are less corrosive to metals than sodium chloride (table salt).

I think that brine composition is often very local, as brines are often byproducts from other manufacturing processes, and the ingredients/composition varies a great deal. Depending on the location, some agricultural processes create magnesium rich non-chloride brines that work well for deicing asphalt and unimproved roads. Magnesium is supposedly hard on concrete, purportedly causing a decomposition reaction in concrete, and causing spalling.

All the best,

Peter

 

[mrmikey]

Brine is simply salt in water, which is exactly what you have after rock salt has been pulverized by tires and mixed with snow. The beauty of brine is that they can cover the road surface with a small fraction of the amount of salt required, when distributing it in the form of rock salt, as so much of the rock salt ends up in the ditches on either side of the road.

You're for sure correct it's salt and water but I think that the maximum saturation percentage for manufactured brine is 22% (don't quote me on that number) before it drops out of suspension. I would assume the mixture made by driving over wet salt is less....possibly, dunno just guessing.
You're right a lot of salt ends up in the ditches that's why the spreading systems now prewet the salt as it's spread so it's sticky and doesn't bounce into the ditch, that kind of a system I can see.
The spreader controls around here now are digital and controlled so you get a set rate (don't ask me what that rate would be) at so many KG per road meter. The older mechanical systems were controlled manually by the operator, "yeah that looks right" so it'd be like driving on a gravel road after the salt truck went by. A good thing about the newer controls is the spread pattern is able to be directed better. If same truck is on a two lane road as opposed to a 4 lane, you can direct the spread pattern so it's more directed to the left missing the ditch.

Brines used for deicing are often based on magnesium salts that are less corrosive to metals than sodium chloride (table salt).

Around here it's the same salt they use for spreading.

 

[WinterDeere]

Our rock salt trucks have a bad habit of leaving piles of the stuff at intersections, where they stop and raise the dump truck bed to shift the stuff to the spreader in the rear. Each pile might be 200 - 400 pounds, just left sitting there, 4" - 6" deep and covering an area half the size of a parking space.

The way they pile the stuff onto the roads, sometimes as deep as the snow it's supposedly protecting us from, I wouldn't be surprised at all if the salt company is sending some mighty nice gifts to whomever makes the decisions on where and how much salt to purchase each year.

 

[B7510HSD]

Coobie does this road salt stuff affect the new Hurricane engine? Boy this thread went off the rails quick.

 

[WinterDeere]

Coobie does this road salt stuff affect the new Hurricane engine? Boy this thread went off the rails quick.

??? Not off the rails at all, when you follow the thread. Most here are replacing their trucks due to rust, caused by road salt, more than any other cause.

I can almost guarantee you that when I'm forced to replace my 5.7L Hemi with a Hurricane, it will be because road salt rusted thru my current truck body.

 

[B7510HSD]

??? Not off the rails at all, when you follow the thread. Most here are replacing their trucks due to rust, caused by road salt, more than any other cause.

I can almost guarantee you that when I'm forced to replace my 5.7L Hemi with a Hurricane, it will be because road salt rusted thru my current truck body.

He asked this nothing about your trucks rusting?"Any opinions on the new 2025 Ram 1500 with the standard hurricane inline 6cly.with twin turbos?I currently have a 2022 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi.Thinking about trading up to a 2025."

 

[coobie]

??? Not off the rails at all, when you follow the thread. Most here are replacing their trucks due to rust, caused by road salt, more than any other cause.

I can almost guarantee you that when I'm forced to replace my 5.7L Hemi with a Hurricane, it will be because road salt rusted thru my current truck body.

Rust proofing is your friend.

 

[WinterDeere]

He asked this nothing about your trucks rusting?"Any opinions on the new 2025 Ram 1500 with the standard hurricane inline 6cly.with twin turbos?I currently have a 2022 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi.Thinking about trading up to a 2025."

OP already bought the truck, more than two weeks and 20 pages ago, so that request was satisfied. OP was talking about rust proofing by page 21, post #213. So now you're telling him what he can discuss, on his own thread?

Perfect timing on posting about rust proofing again just now, coobie.

No one is forcing you to read any of this, nor did anyone elect you to police everyone else on the forum.

 

[coobie]

He asked this nothing about your trucks rusting?"Any opinions on the new 2025 Ram 1500 with the standard hurricane inline 6cly.with twin turbos?I currently have a 2022 Ram 1500 with the 5.7 hemi.Thinking about trading up to a 2025."

Traded my 2022 Ram 1500 longhorn 5.7 hemi for a 2025 Laramie 1500 with the hurricane standard output 420 HP.My first 1,000 miles and the mileage is 4 MPG better than the 5.7 hemi a lot quicker engine response HP wise.Time will tell on the durability part of the engine.