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What is a HOA?
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Home Owner's Association, also called POA for Property Owners Association in some areas.
The intent is to prevent people from allowing their property to fall into disrepair thereby causing the values of the surrounding properties to decrease.
There is typically a board of elected folks from the subdivision (or realty company , if newly developed) that look for infractions to the charter and if warnings aren't enough, will take legal action to insure people stay in line.
Insane abuses of power get a lot of attention.
HOA Heretical Overly Annoying.neighbors me anyway I'll put a 20 yr old beater on blocks and liberally use an impact wrench, welder, and grinder on it at 6 am. Probably wouldn't last in a hoa neighborhood for very long.
Torvy
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There's definitely a happy medium between most HOAs where over-controlling self-important 'Karens' try to dictate their preferences on everyone and a free-for-all where people are deliberately poor neighbors just because they can.
I've lived in places with both extremes.
Now, we have almost no rules, but the neighbors are decent people and don't go out of their way to annoy each other.
One guy has a firing range (commercial). He always lets us know if they will be shooting at odd hours. No rules, just common decency.
I've lived in places with both extremes.
Now, we have almost no rules, but the neighbors are decent people and don't go out of their way to annoy each other.
One guy has a firing range (commercial). He always lets us know if they will be shooting at odd hours. No rules, just common decency.
Only spent a little time in a overreaching "Karen' HOA before my wife and I married and subsequently moved to 15 sprawling acres. Lol . Could write several pages of incidents i had with 'Karen" and her over bearing husband I'll call "Darren" to be nice. Definitely left that neighborhood with a bad impression of hoa's. I feel they had a going away party for us except we weren't invited. 
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"Every neighborhood has one, and here, I'm it!"Only spent a little time in a overreaching "Karen' HOA before my wife and I married and subsequently moved to 15 sprawling acres. Lol . Could write several pages of incidents i had with 'Karen" and her over bearing husband I'll call "Darren" to be nice. Definitely left that neighborhood with a bad impression of hoa's. I feel they had a going away party for us except we weren't invited.
People always comment how nice and quiet our neighborhood is, 10 houses spread out on 130 acres. I always tell them, "it was quiet, until I moved in!"
Don't bother reading if you don't care for complaining but I feel like ranting about a tritoon trailer I recently bought.. so here goes it, has a lot of eye catching chrome bling and physically looks nice if that's your thing. I care more about what's on a trailer than actual trailer though. First job removing center caps on hubs to access grease fittings in order to get center cap off you need to remove tire. Rant 1 why do they use chrome covered lug nuts, a 19mm 6 point impact socket shouldn't screw them up, right? Wrong off to store I go to get solid 19mm lugnuts. #2 Why do they bother with chrome center caps to cover rubber dust cap in the first place? #3 after replacing cheap lug nuts I screwed up accidentally knocked off a plastic end cap on frame exposing the wiring. for cripes sake how do manufacturers get away with wire nuts on a trailer especially one designed to be submerged during hauling and launching? Me anyway if it's a trailer I want it to function and be easy to maintain. Who buys a trailer for looks rather than function besides apparently me lol this time anyway. However in my feeble defense it was the only one in my area with brakes on at least one axle that appear to function, and was ready for purchase at least all the welds looked decent.
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Rockbadchild
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like the saying ''If you don't know who the annoying neighbor is... it's probably you''"Every neighborhood has one, and here, I'm it!"
People always comment how nice and quiet our neighborhood is, 10 houses spread out on 130 acres. I always tell them, "it was quiet, until I moved in!"
Gem99ultra
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I've lived in both HOA controlled neighborhoods as well al 'non'. The neighborhood with the HOA did have a bunch of blue-haired biddies that thought they were God. They made living there totally miserable.
And now I live in a non-controlled neighborhood. At first, all was hunky-dory. Then our widowed good neighbor across the street died. Her property was sold to a completely disgusting guy that drags in at least one junk car per month, leaves it to be restored at some distant point in his life, and drags in another future junker. That would be fine as long as there was at least a little progress being made on restoring some of his 'stock pile'. But that hasn't happened in 3 years. And probably will never happed.
So now, while I would not even consider moving into a HOA controlled neighborhod, I would also not even consider buying a home anywhere close to another neighbor.
I will mention one satisfaction abouthe HOA neighborhood. After them complaining that I had 2 storage bins in my obstructed backyard, rather than only 1, my spouse (a paralegal) did a little reseach and discoved that the HOA had lost their commission many years ago! ha! So much for their BS. They immediately disbanded their glee-club.
And now I live in a non-controlled neighborhood. At first, all was hunky-dory. Then our widowed good neighbor across the street died. Her property was sold to a completely disgusting guy that drags in at least one junk car per month, leaves it to be restored at some distant point in his life, and drags in another future junker. That would be fine as long as there was at least a little progress being made on restoring some of his 'stock pile'. But that hasn't happened in 3 years. And probably will never happed.
So now, while I would not even consider moving into a HOA controlled neighborhod, I would also not even consider buying a home anywhere close to another neighbor.
I will mention one satisfaction abouthe HOA neighborhood. After them complaining that I had 2 storage bins in my obstructed backyard, rather than only 1, my spouse (a paralegal) did a little reseach and discoved that the HOA had lost their commission many years ago! ha! So much for their BS. They immediately disbanded their glee-club.
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It's possible to find a middle ground. One guy I knew ran a large development of lower-income housing, and one of his very few rules was, "no un-registered vehicles outdoors." That took care of situations like @Gem99ultra's neighbor, he'd have been limited to the number of junkers he can fit into his own garage. And it didn't prevent anyone else from parking all the daily drivers they wanted in their own front yard, they just had to be registered... which in PA means you have to be at least able to drive them to an inspection station every year. No registration, without inspection!
Our neighborhood had some ordinances, which have since expired, but prevented any low-rent junkers being built. The few that really stuck out in my mind were no subdivision under 6 acres, no house under 6000 sq.ft., and no house without at least 3 garage bays. Of course, there are still rich slobs, so it's no guarantee. But usually those spending money to build a new house and property of that size aren't too quick to junk it up with dead vehicles.
Our neighborhood had some ordinances, which have since expired, but prevented any low-rent junkers being built. The few that really stuck out in my mind were no subdivision under 6 acres, no house under 6000 sq.ft., and no house without at least 3 garage bays. Of course, there are still rich slobs, so it's no guarantee. But usually those spending money to build a new house and property of that size aren't too quick to junk it up with dead vehicles.
