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   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #1  

Starrynights

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Kioti ck2620
This will be my first winter snow clearing with the big boy, I've moved up from a JD570 lawn tractor/blower to a Kioti CK2620 & Inverted (pull type) snowblower. That little JD tractor did surprisingly well, but just not enough for the big snow dumps we get. Anyways, since this is a new task with new equipment for me, I want to make sure I am approaching it correctly.

So this is what I believe to be the correct way to do it;
  • Warm up tractor
  • Raise 3pt hitch
  • Move into initial starting area
  • Set RPMs approx 1200
  • Clutch, then slowly release while PTO is initially engaged
  • Bring RPMs up to ~2,000
  • Get into the snow and lower the 3pt hitch to desired height above ground and start blowing the snow

When I reach the end of a pass down the driveway, is it a good idea to disengage the PTO while raising the 3pt hitch and maneuvering or does it matter?

cheers!
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #2  
Your process seems okay, except that the blower probably wants full PTO RPM, after it's engaged.
A couple questions: Gravel or paved drive? Hydro or gear trans?
Gravel takes more of your attention re: level/height.
Hydro is easier to control the speed vs snow depth challenge.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #3  
Grease the blower fittings 1st time out and consider silicone spray on the chute. Get good safety eyewear because you WILL get flyback. Hang a stick on the tractor fender to unclog the blower fan in mushy snow conditions.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #4  
This will be my first winter snow clearing with the big boy, I've moved up from a JD570 lawn tractor/blower to a Kioti CK2620 & Inverted (pull type) snowblower. That little JD tractor did surprisingly well, but just not enough for the big snow dumps we get. Anyways, since this is a new task with new equipment for me, I want to make sure I am approaching it correctly.

So this is what I believe to be the correct way to do it;
  • Warm up tractor
  • Raise 3pt hitch
  • Move into initial starting area
  • Set RPMs approx 1200
  • Clutch, then slowly release while PTO is initially engaged
  • Bring RPMs up to ~2,000
  • Get into the snow and lower the 3pt hitch to desired height above ground and start blowing the snow

When I reach the end of a pass down the driveway, is it a good idea to disengage the PTO while raising the 3pt hitch and maneuvering or does it matter?

cheers!
Will this be your first time using PTO powered equipment? Generally, you want to keep the RPM's as low as possible when engaging the PTO. No reason to bump it up while engaging. Start it at idle, unless doing that stalls out the engine. Shouldn't do that since there isn't a lot of rotating mass. Once it's engaged, run it at whatever RPM the manufacturer recommends, which is probably 540 or thereabouts. You should have something on your machine that tells you when the PTO is at 540. You can raise or lower the RPM's to throw the snow more or less distance. No need to disengage PTO to raise and turn, assuming the driveshaft angle is such that raising the blower doesn't make your U joint angles too steep.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #5  
When done blowing snow shut tractor off clean inside auger shoot the best as can so ice doesn't build up.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps
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#6  
Your process seems okay, except that the blower probably wants full PTO RPM, after it's engaged.
A couple questions: Gravel or paved drive? Hydro or gear trans?
Gravel takes more of your attention re: level/height.
Hydro is easier to control the speed vs snow depth challenge.
Hydro trans... a gravel drive about 500m (1500ft). So only the tach it has a PTO range. So I can keep it in upper part of that.
 
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Will this be your first time using PTO powered equipment? Generally, you want to keep the RPM's as low as possible when engaging the PTO. No reason to bump it up while engaging. Start it at idle, unless doing that stalls out the engine. Shouldn't do that since there isn't a lot of rotating mass. Once it's engaged, run it at whatever RPM the manufacturer recommends, which is probably 540 or thereabouts. You should have something on your machine that tells you when the PTO is at 540. You can raise or lower the RPM's to throw the snow more or less distance. No need to disengage PTO to raise and turn, assuming the driveshaft angle is such that raising the blower doesn't make your U joint angles too steep.
Ok I'll do this. Yes, there is a 540 PTO range on the tach,but I'll start it up on the low end and see how it goes. The guy that dropped it off suggested 1200rpm to start , but it idles much low that this. Makes sense to make the engage and windup as less stressful as possible

Thanks!

Edit: yes... 1st PTO piece of equipment.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #8  
Maybe wear hearing protection. They're LOUD.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #10  
I raise the blower just a few inches when not actually blowing snow to keep the pto shaft more level. I cringe when I see people raising a blower to full height, usually creating a severe angle on the u joints. It's just unecessary wear and tear.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #13  
First thing you'll learn is that it's VITAL that the discharge chute is pointed downwind. You'll have to adjust that as your direction and conditions change. If you get caught in the "snow-cloud" from the discharge blowing back at you, you become an instant snowman!

As mentioned above, tilt the leading edge up so it doesn't dig into your gravel. Let it ride back on the shoes a little.

I run mowers, tillers, and snowblowers at WOT. No reason not to. Your blower doesn't have to rotate at EXACTLY 540 rpm and, in this case, faster is better.

I've never had my tractor-mounted snowblower jam up with snow or ice.

Look at your PTO angle when yours is raised all the way up. If it's extreme, don't raise it that high while it's running. Every setup is a little different. As said above, you can just pick it up so it's not dragging sideways on the turns without raising it all the way. I don't disengage mine when I turn around.

Don't point the discharge at anything like a car or person -- not even as a joke. You won't believe how much gravel and junk will get picked up (regardless of how careful you are) and you can easily break glass, etc.

Otherwise, just have fun with your new snow machine!
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #14  
Hydro trans... a gravel drive about 500m (1500ft). So only the tach it has a PTO range. So I can keep it in upper part of that.
With a gravel driveway I would pack the snow in the first few storms. You dont want to blow half your driveway through your snowblower. If you cant do this then I would say get a plow.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #15  
With a gravel driveway I would pack the snow in the first few storms. You dont want to blow half your driveway through your snowblower. If you cant do this then I would say get a plow.

A snowplow will move a lot of gravel too! Either way you need to watch your angle-of-attack and overall conditions.

Every spring I have to spend a few hours with a box blade or grader blade pulling gravel back into the drive where it belongs. That's just part of the game.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #16  
Also, when you clear the mouth of your driveway make sure that the snow goes on the downward side of the plow trucks.
There's nothing worse than getting it all cleared out, only to have the plow wing the bankings back and have to do it all over again.
Especially when using an old walk behind JD blower...
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #17  
Here is some more snowblowing advice from a front mount blower user, if applicable to a pull behind type;

First, never disengage the pto unless, or until, the chute is clear of all snow. Disengaging the pto with a chute full of snow (especially wet heavy snow) is a great way to instantly end up with a plugged chute when you re-engage the pto.

Second, when the job is finished, be sure to run the blower until all snow is cleared from all moving parts. Then move / rotate the chute full range stop to stop to be sure there is not snow that can freeze and block its movement before the next startup.

Second, contrary to what others have said about running the engine speed for the rated pto rpm, With a gravel driveway, Once you get the hang of your equipment's operation (i.e. how slow you can run the engine (pto) without plugging the chute in various snow conditions), you may find your driveway and yard restoration work next spring to be easier if you slow the pto speed and try to not throw and spread the snow (including gravel) quite so far and wide. I have a front blower with an adjustable deflector on the chute, but I also vary engine speed in order to minimize the areas that I need to clean up each spring. Throw it as far as you need to, get the snow out of the way so you don't get snow banks that cause extra drifting, but remember that you may be the one who has to clean up any extra mess in the spring.

Third, When spring comes and it is time to move the gravel back into the driveway. After the box blade, a power rubber paddle broom
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does a great job to really clean things up. Works best (easiest) to get it done before the grass starts growing in the spring.
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #18  
If you end up needing to "reblow" drifts or consolidated snow, be ready to move slowly, stay UNDER the snow and not ride up and over (tilt), and revisit every rock and stick previously encountered.

As mentioned, for the first couple of clearings each season, have extra shear bolts on hand!
 
   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #19  
Maybe wear hearing protection. They're LOUD.
I think that depends on the inverted blower. My Wifo is very quiet, Blowers with open non oil submerged boxes seem to be louder although Both of my rotary brush cutter mower boxes have been loud.
Maybe the Brand of the gearbox, The Comer on the Wifo is nice and quiet.

One pretty obvious suggestion I have is to run up the blower speed to clear out whatever will exit the blower before shut down for the day, and also if parked outside I make sure the blower is not at the lowest point in case of rain or wet snow and a hard freeze where a puddle could form.

Here is a Kioti with a pull behind wifo

 
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   / Snow clearing newbie - Recommended steps #20  
Yeah I'd wait using blower until you have a solid snow/ice surface. Otherwise its just gonna be an inaccurate gravel shotgun. Many that uses the bucket gets them shoes you put on to prevent it from digging into the gravel (Can't remember the name). Else inverted blowers are great instruments, here is a video of me with 18inches of snow last year.

 

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