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I'd use what they recommend in that tractor after you get the old oil replaced and cleaned out well. May not be much difference, but there "can" be. Lubricants and fluids have their own spectrum of stuff you couldn't fit into a volume of encyclopedias. Some have detergents, some have anti...

Good post, Eddie! I agree! Right now the 10-12 foot cutters are more designed for lower horsepower tractors in the 45-50hp range. They are easier to get spinning from a start-up, and not HD at all. I have my 12' Viper on the back of my 75hp tractor, and will cheer the day they make a HD...

That's kinda what I do. But in the past couple of years, I've leased some good hay fields. I have them for my own use with cattle, and to sell what hay is left over. I do all the work on them myself, except the cutting and baling. I have a great guy that comes and bales when I have a field...

There's a huge difference in my 15 and 12 for what I use them for. The 15, I use on very large ranches that have quite a bit of open areas, and not many tight spots between trees I have to shred around. The 12' cuts in tighter spots much easier, and I can cut a lot more, and leave a lot less...

Now... If ONLY I could get a 12' cutter like that 15.72 Woods! :LOL: I know they cater that width of cutter to lower horsepower tractors that probably don't see many hours use in a year's time. But I sincerely think that a genuine HD 12' cutter would find a home in many places.

I think you have a very good idea of how it's done! (y) Recently, I traded my old Woods BW180XHD in on a new Woods 15.72... While the similarities of the basics are the same, I'm REALLY impressed with the improvements to the whole re-design. When I brought my old one in to trade it in, the...

Really, I don't put much stock into what a cutter is rated for, other than to scale how heavy duty a cutter is. If a cutter is rated at 4.5" the company must have decent faith it's pretty heavy duty. If the cutter is rated at 1.5", then it'll do okay to mow your lawn with.. maybe. If you don't...

Yessir! Those are excellent cutters!

Yeah, I probably should have said "beefier" gear boxes. They are probably all China now. I know those little round ones they have on the Viper 12' are not very good. Replaced both of wings and the splitter gear box under warranty. Both wing cylinders have been replaced twice. Deck cylinder is...

They probably are real good cutters for lighter duty projects. Looked at the JD awhile back, but it's light duty as well. May end up taking anther look at the Bush Hog 12' because it has the drive lines and gear boxes to rate cutting 3" growth. Interesting that my 12' Viper and the Bush Hog...

Thanks so much for your engineering contributions to this thread! Yeah, I know you can't compare cut on a CTL front cutter and a batwing cutter... That would be like comparing finish mowers cutting country club greens to batwing cutters shredding pastures. ;) I just put that out there because...

Tip speed and spindle placement seem to be your strong points. Please inform me as to my options on spindle placement in the field cutting brush. Not sure why you think that I believe tip speed fixes anything, other than I'd rather have a higher blade tip speed, all other things equal. And...

On a good cutter, all 3 cutting decks don't turn the same rotation direction, so when you turn one way or the other, you may notice a poorer cut. Mine cuts better when I make a turn, or circle a tree counter clockwise. The only difference would be the direction the blades are spinning. I also...

Yeah, I tend to match the horsepower with the cutter, to minimize slowdown and maximize cut performance. But I do several things as well. Ground speed, keep blades razor sharp, corners blunted, and turn direction of tractor adhered to. Small things make a difference. Big change in performance...

Interesting occupation! What company did you retire from? I absolutely don't agree with you that blade tip speed doesn't make a difference, though. (We are talking rotary cutters here, and mowing acreage with brush, weeds, and uneven terrain. Not finish mowers, as I would have a finish mower...

John, yessir... You have the same issue I do. I've gone to using 00wt Cornhead Grease in the gear boxes of the Viper now. It throws much less gear oil out on the deck, and stays inside the gearbox rather than leak through seals. I've had both wing hydraulic cylinders replaced twice. Now I have...

What was it...? Old Jeeps? Can't remember, but you could switch the wires that operate the fan and it would turn the other way. Just happened to think of that. Old guy used a Jeep motor on a water well, and needed the thing to blow in reverse, and someone told him that, and he said it worked.

That's a good point about pressure washing. Different radiators demand different cleaning processes. My 120hp NH has very thick, strong, wide fins on the radiators. When needed, with a wider spray tip, I can back off distance wise, and wash the radiators. (Not to put a very concentrated spray...

Some here mentioned an electric leaf blower... I do use one in limited capacity. It can help clear blockage on the screen, and even the dust/chaff in the radiator. But the main reason I don't depend on one heavily is that I want to blow the debris out the way it came in... Directional blowing...

That's the way my radiator screens looked after a couple of hours in mature dove weed last year. When the temp gauge would start climbing, I'd get down and pull the screen and whisk broom it off, then do the front of the radiator, put the screen back on, and keep going.

I'm in the Ag Service business and get called to shred sizable ranches. Usually these ranches cut once a year. The growth can be 2 ft to 10 ft tall. Last year, mature dove weeds were the worst. 4 foot tall and LOTS of chaff coming off them. I had to use my bench whisk broom often when the...

I use an extended blow gun on my air compressor in the back of my pickup. Have one for the compressor in my shop too. El Cheapo... Works great though. :) https://www.harborfreight.com/air-blow-gun-with-extensions-5-piece-63574.html

If I can help it, that is. Of course I get caught by a shower now and then, but really try to avoid that. With what I do, dusty conditions, as well as fine vegetation particles get into the radiators, and I've had a mess to clean out, before. I've other people's radiators nearly completely...

To me, the entire OP has no credibility. No description or details of tractor year, hours, or of issues or remedies tried to fix it. No followup on the question that was vague in the first place. Just click bait.

Well, just an educated guess about the market studies in the big 3 automakers losing billions and discontinuing EV's for now, and perhaps a very lackluster response to the annoucement of EV tractors, combined with low inquiries and no sustainable orders. Maybe??? ;)

The buying public hath spoken.

If they do, they are coming through my electronic ranch security gate, driving nearly 1/2 mile up my driveway with security cameras, and facing me when they get to the HQ here. Might be easier for them to quickly hook onto my welding trailer in that barn and see if they can get to the front...

I see that some down here. Mostly either kids on dad's tractor w/ 6' cutter. :LOL:

The one directly under the jaws, I'm going to cut off when I get my cutting torch out next time. It's not really in the way much, but I want to have better access to tighten. The vise is a swivel type vise, so if needed, I can swivel it to accommodate odd lengths. If I get closer to the edge...

My 2 tractors that are a year old~ 120hp has 425 hrs and 75hp has 375 hrs My 2019 CTL has 850 hrs I'm the only operator.

I hear you! But, I rarely get up in the trailer where that's mounted.

Have it enclosed in an all weather draw string bag when not using, or trailering my welding rig.

Been needing a vise to hold objects I'm cutting, grinding, welding or sharpening, so I got a dual swivel vice and mounted it on the corner of my welding trailer. Needed this for awhile, so I took the time to weld 1/4" plate metal to the corner, then drill and mount the vice today. Should make...

What do you do with those tractors? Shred highway rights of way?

Maybe not. There's a lot of factors involved with front tire wear when roading. Radial tires at proper pressure don't wear bad for me. Cheap, non radial tires will wear much quicker on roads. I literally drive both my tractors hundreds of miles a year between agriculture projects. I'm on my...

Umm... Yeah. My GPH may vary a bit from yours... LOL. So running your 100hp tractor that holds 30 gallons in the fuel tank under load, like plowing or running a big batwing cutter...burns so much diesel you only can run 2 1/2 to 3 hours before you have to fill up again? Dude. Something's...

It'll be alright. If condensation becomes a problem in wet or humid weather, you can always add vents.

Rural farm areas should be relatively safe to road your tractor on. Here, it's very common, as lots of folks are on the road with tractors. I road my tractors just about everywhere. That said, both of mine will run faster than I feel comfortable running them... They will run 30mph down the...

I love it! :LOL:

Yessir! A net wire fence sure helps! If they do start a slide where they come under, it's an excellent place for a snare. Only don't connect it to your fence.. ;)

Gung Ho Hunter Types... :LOL: I guess many may be "uninformed", but I count myself as one that's pretty informed as to the methods of hog control, because as a govt hunter (previous job), I also had a chance to contribute to the feral hog control plan for the National Forest Service, as I...

There are 2 types of land owners who have hogs. (1) Those who have them and sell hog hunts.... Those guys want hogs on their places. The more the merrier when it comes to selling hunts. (2) Those who don't want the hogs, and may, or may not let you hunt. I fall into the rancher who does his...

That bottom buck is a dandy!

I drag, or carry them off. I don't want the carcass contaminating the areas I rid of them. There's an old pen in the center of my ranch I try and put everything. The buzzards and coyotes have good access to it. Whether or not the carcass gets eaten by coyotes depends on the animal. I've seen...

Just a basic setup, Diamondback DB10 in .308, Witt Machine muzzle device, Bering Super Hogster thermal. I setup and sighted in one of those Pulsar's on my brother's rifle. Nice!

This particular one ,.. No! He was very rank and smelled horrible, and had several open festering wounds from fighting with other boars. I generally don't eat many wild hogs. One reason is that if I took time to butcher all the hogs we get, we'd have no time to hunt. Farmers get us to hunt...

Have had a large sounder of hogs haunting my wild game feeder and dominating the entire area, so I've been needing to dissuade them, and send them to find another ranch besides mine. They have been at it awhile, keeping deer, turkey and ducks, etc. away. (Not the raccoons though... they seem...

I agree! This entire hot, dry summer I resembled that with my tractors and batwing cutters on ranches. I sure went through a lot of grease too! If I hadn't greased the hell out of all my fitting it would have been like sandpaper wearing things down. Went through lots of filters too.

Yesterday I went to shred (bushhog) a place I've done for years, and the folks who live there told me just one corner of the property was "pretty overgrown", but the rest had been cut for hay earlier in the year. 20 mile drive with tractor from where I had it parked. Got there, and knew I was...

It's not really locked with the hydraulic cylinders as the constant flow of hydraulic pressure is not present after you lower the wings. The hydraulic cylinders are "one way" cylinders, and all they do is raise the wings. There's no pressure to lower them. Only the weight of the wing itself...

On the batwings when moving over uneven ground, the wings still move up and down with the terrain. The only difference is, when positioned in float, there's less resistance to the wing movement because "float" allows the hydraulic fluid to move more freely through the cylinder without as much...

A batwing conforms to terrain on each cutting deck. One wing can be cutting high, the center low, and the opposite wing even lower. The batwing will meet the terrain very well, as long as the changes are halfway gradual. Sharp rises, or holes don't cut as well. This is cutting the low spot...

The lighter batwing cutters will mostly have only 2 center axle wheels, but the heavy cutters will have 4 wheels to handle the weight. 2500-3500 pounds is pretty light, and most only have 2 center wheels. Your wings are mostly controlled by hydraulics to raise and lower the wings, like to go...

The bottom seal doesn't have to be leaking to use corn head grease in gear boxes. It's much better lubrication and was designed for gear boxes. I wish manufacturers would start using and recommending it more. I think it's more expensive, is why they don't.

Just use regular 80-90 in it. Or better yet, I've gone to using 0 wt corn head grease in all of my gear boxes.

I'd have to go look, but off the top of my head, it's a 27kw generator. May be this one, I'm pretty sure. They have increased in price pretty much since I got mine a couple years ago. (I was on a waiting list for a year to get it..)...

I went through Hurricane Harvey and decided it was time to backup with a PTO generator. The one I got will run the whole ranch... both houses with ac/heat going, and everything in them, including my water well. It operates with my 75hp tractor. I put it on a 3 point hitch setup, and set it on...

It's nothing more than fact, is all... You pay more for a cab tractor, and it's worth more on the used market, no matter how old it is, than an open station model of the same ilk. I have followed that philosophy with 4 wheel drive on a pickup for a long time, and the same holds true. The...

Eddie, I was going down the road today and thought about you, and my mirror orientation... The left mirror I just swung over, and rotated the mirror to focus. (From the photo it really looks like my post where the fire extinguisher is mounted blocks my view...but that's just the camera angle...

I agree with that, as to some posters in this thread. It seems you can always find people wearing their opinions on their sleeve. But most have just made it clear why they choose what they have, and how that works for them. An argument for open station I have never understood is "It's less...

I brought mine in more, but my can may be different and takes that position better. I swung them in to a couple of inches from the cab windshield. I think I have a cab that is more open in that rear quarter I'm looking through.

LOL! :ROFLMAO: Yeah, nobody owns a rat-rod tractor. (At least in their own mind's eye.) Tain't a big deal to start each sentence with "I"... you just don't see it often. Glad you endorse certain Mahindras. Putting around 2k hours between two of them, I just feel better served for now by...

Just swing those mirror around and look through the windshield at them. Try it.. If you don't like it, you can always put them back. 😉

I do shredding/bush hogging for a living seasonally, among other ag services. Those mirrors are a huge problem when cutting around and through trees. o_O In addition to getting them knocked out of whack where you can't see where you need to, and have to get out and refocus them, they have...

:ROFLMAO: Did you notice that you started every sentence with "I"? :) Everyone has an opinion, and I hear yours. But I'm confused about "I use them to get things done and not to look pretty." ... Are you saying that you have ugly tractors? Or that other tractors are better looking? Or...

I had that very model. 2019 6075 cab. It was a good tractor, and I enjoyed running it. But it had inherent problems. Expensive to fix. Last straw was a fan bearing going out, and when it did, it sent the fan into the radiator. No big deal, right? Put a new fan, bearing and radiator on it...

Eddie, the first thing I do when I buy a shredder is remove all that plastic lawyer crap. Much easier to grease the fittings when removed, and it runs much smoother because it's balanced better without them. The repair was simple, but complicated. It was simple because all I had to do was...

:D:D I hear ya! Nah, I don't think it happened because it's Fri. 13th... I just think that's the date that metal fatigue kicked in. Mostly, I've pretty good luck on Friday 13th.

I've had better luck than I had today... 😖 They want over $1350 for a new axle. Guess I'll be working with the welder tomorrow to repair and bolster this one. Hope y'all had better luck today! 😉 I'll post the repair. Right in the middle of a huge project, with a bigger one after this one...

More of a poll, just out of curiosity, more than anything else... How many hours do you operate your equipment? A year or so back, I had an issue with a tractor and was talking to the dealer and service manager about it, and asked them if they had seen failures of that model tractor at 1000...

Yeah, I'm roughing it! :) My ridged harrow can get you pretty dirty as well. When freezing rain is coming down, and the cattle need hay in the morning, I am thankful for a cab then too. It can get a bit crowded in the cab when my giant schnauzer jumps in the open door though! I have...

I notice most of you guys who like being in the elements are kinda situated in the northern US. But I wonder if a 10 hour day of running a batwing cutter in 110 degree heat, and letting the dust, chaff, yellow jackets, and sharp oak limbs enrich your outdoor experience.... might change your...

Everything I have has a cab. This is just one of the many reasons. Are you a cab, or open station type?

I hate hauling heavy tractors and equipment... :cautious: Don't have much choice with my heavy, tracked skid steer though. But it goes on a shorter trailer than my big 40' deckover Gooseneck that will haul a tractor and batwing cutter. I'm constantly on the go with my tractors, as I do...

I have two of those... Both my PowerStar tractors have the same radio you have in the Workmaster. While they work, I'm less that impressed as well. My PS120 radio display has started weakening as well. farmradiosupply.com has pretty much all adapters and options for radios. Some are pretty spendy.

You know, I guess myself and all the manufacturers of batwing cutters must have it wrong then. Forgive me for asking, but which blade "hammers" and which blade cuts? Seems like makers could save a lot of $$$ just by installing those non-sharpened "hammer" blades... ;) Maybe I'm wrong, so...

Keeps me from having to roll around on the ground sharpening them with the sharp edge pointed down... ;)

I was using a big C-clamp and 1x4 board to hold the blades while sharpening with an angle grinder. They would slip, skid off, not stay tight... and cause lots of cussing in general. 🤬 So... I made a stand that adjusts to any height to sharpen the blades of any batwing cutter with the wings in...

That guy didn't even know the cutter spun that way. He just bought 4 wing blades and 2 center blades. I think he's wiser now.

Not so much the brand but the gear boxes. The ones that all spin the same way can be converted by changing out that one gear box on the wing to a gearbox that spins the opposite direction. Be careful buying blades too... LOL. My dealer told me about a guy who kept complaining about the...

Another interesting factoid about 12' cutters is the... Land Pride RC2512 Titan 1912 and Iron Craft 2512 Modern Ag Predator and Viper 12' cutters And the older, no longer made Bush Hog 2212 are the same deck and blueprint pattern. Bush Hog engineered it first, then I reckon the patent ran...

Had a Woods BW12, but not for long. Maybe a year and a half. Worst cutter I've ever had...sold it for half of what I paid for it when it still had remaining warranty. Wing hinges were so tight, and had no way to lube them, that the wings wouldn't work half the time. Wasted lots of time cussing...

I wonder of the machines that burn, how many of them were running a forestry mulcher, or similar mower? Those can make the machine run hot, especially on a hot summer day.

At least you didn't buy a Woods BW12... Total junk. Sold mine for half of what I paid for it while it was still under warranty. :confused:

On 12 foot cutters, 3 of the brand names use the same chassis. Bush Hog 2212, Land Pride 2512, and Modern Ag 12' Viper and Predator. I don't think BH still makes theirs, but it's a Bush Hog design platform... They have gone even lighter and cheaper built since then. The older ones were much...

Sorry to hear of your trouble. It looks like you did good with the post driver. What brand cutter is that? It doesn't seem to make much difference in what brand cutter it is anymore, because they all use cheap Chinese gear boxes now. Still, I think some are better than others. Most of my 12'...

It's not really pointless to reduce the numbers, as a dead hog cannot breed more hogs. Once it's out of the picture, it's gone forever. One thing I've found in years of dealing with them not only on my ranch, but others as well, is that persistence pays off when trying to rid an area of them...

I'm using an ar10 in .308. Not as quick on followup shots, but it sure anchors them. Had several occasions where I line them up and get more than one per shot. :)

When hunting to rid agriculture areas of hogs, myself and a partner can knock down 15 hogs at a time from one sounder. We look into the fields we hunt and find a likely sounder with wind direction, distance, etc., and then stalk (walk) out to them quietly. We usually set up 30-40 yards from the...

Yeah, I hunt with thermal for other folks who farm. They can't resist those fresh plowed fields. We get many, many more than most people can imagine... But here on my ranch, like your place, I've pretty well eliminated them. I've had one sounder of hogs in the past 3 1/2 years, and I got 7-8...

Most of the damage I deal with down here is large scale damage to pastures or hay fields. I agree the tiller does a great job. But as I said, the damage I deal with is large scale, and I use an offset disc, and that 12' harrow to cover more ground than I could with a tiller.

Good job on that feeder! Yeah, the deck on the Modern Ag products are excellent. I've got their 12' Viper batwing, and while I love how it cuts when it's running correctly, I've had lots of failures with it as well. (splitter gearbox replaced, one side gear box replaced, wheel bearings...

Spent 12 hours dragging a 12' ridged harrow yesterday, repairing damage done by feral hogs. The pasture had to be repaired before the spray truck could get on it today to apply fertilizer and weed herbicide ahead of the upcoming rain forecast. Do you have feral hogs where you live? They do...

Very much agree about prevention and cure! I wish more implement companies would go galvanized. Modern Ag company makes galvanized deck cutters, and they do seem to do a good job of keeping rust off the top of the deck. But if you use the cutter much, the galvanized surface on the underside...

I've got a Woods 15' Batwing cutter that has served me well for a bit over 9 years now. But It's showing some deck rust. I blow the deck off daily when using the cutter, but the corrosive nature of plant fluids makes it's way through anything after awhile, and factory paint or powder coat on...

Had to do the same thing with my 15' batwing cutter. It sunk one fall when I was bush hogging, and I had to unhook from it and leave it. It's a wonder I didn't stick the tractor too. :oops: That cutter weighs 5000 pounds, and it was on bottom. went back several times to get it out, but it...

I did a similar operation with my big skid steer... I had a big oak that needed pushing over so I could move it away from a fenceline. I had the loader up high, and pushed and it started giving ground. I kept the momentum going until the tree fell, but that big root ball was right at the front...

You did, I admit. It strikes a nerve every time someone judges what I do with my time, or judges that I "don't need a tractor" because I take time to take care of that asset. Of course if you want to spend about $150k and buy me a 120hp cab tractor and a heavy duty 15' batwing cutter to use on...

Been stuck a time or two. :cool: Last time I stuck my PS120. Luckily, there was someone there where I was stuck, and he gave me a ride to get my PS75 and a few lengths of chain. I didn't just give it hell and bury it to the hilt, and there was enough ground that was just solid enough to let...

Some tractors hold their value pretty good. But I'll keep doing what I'm doing, and not worry much about money left on the table. I get pretty good feedback from my dealer as well when he tells me about selling my trade in in a couple of days and how it was easy to sell, and the buyers...

Not that my equipment can fit in one of those containers, but I have one at the olive orchard for storing stuff in... But brother, let me tell you, down here that SOB gets HOT inside. I can't put anything in it that's heat sensitive in the least.

Not to be redundant, but I replied to your opinion about whether I SHOULD wash and wax my own equipment above. Now we might address that you're pretty sure I have lots of time on my hands, and don't really need a tractor... I'd imagine that pulling 15' batwing cutters across my client's...

I'm so sorry you are disturbed by me waxing my own tractor annually. :confused: I'll really upset you now when I tell that because I take care of not only the mechanical aspects of my tractors, but the appearance as well, I got $47k for a tractor I paid $50k for nearly 10 years ago, with...

I'm much the same with my tractors. When I buy a new one, I hand wax it before taking it afield. Being in the ag service business, and do lots of shredding on pastures with brush, and especially having to cut around oaks and mesquite trees, the wax helps keep the brush scratches off the paint...

Man, I'm sure jealous of your lighting!

Corn Head grease (0wt) may be a better option. It was made for gear boxes.

Yeah, I think the main enemy is the sun damage. As I said earlier, while I park in my tractor barn, I'll sure pull them out to get rinsed off if I know it's going to rain.

I do have a drive through tractor shed for my tractors, and a more closed barn for my welding trailer and CTL. Have to admit that if everything is dusty, I'm prone to pull them all out to get washed off by an impending rain though. :LOL: I've not built anything to house my implements yet...

Bad deal. Sorry for the family. I run my tractors on the road quite a bit, pulling implements most of the time. Both mine will run faster than you want to run a tractor down the road... I rarely exceed 20mph though. Even at 20mph, you think about how bad things can get when something messes up...

I'd just run it locally in the classifieds and perhaps take a photo and make a flyer to put in local feed stores and such that local rural folks frequent. You CAN consign it to a dealer, but in my experience, if they have a tractor buyer on the lot, they'd much rather sell from their own...

I rotate the mirror arm to the windshield front, then adjust the mirror to be looking behind me through the cab. I shred ranches with both tractors, and in oak tree and other brush locations, so one small branch can move the mirrors back so that you can't open the doors... Not a good thing...

I do several hundred hours cutting a year with a 12 cutter. It is in pastures with weeds and tall grass, and while most is flat, it can get rough with feral hog damage, gopher mounds that are 8' across and 2 foot high, and just general pasture conditions. Doubt any sort of ride on mower would...

Yeah, I think a 10 would be too flimsy too. I have a very nice Woods 15' XHD cutter that has impressed me. (Ran it hard over last 10 years through some stuff I probably shouldn't have..) But some of the 15' cutters are flimsy too. Really, I'm thinking they are making these flimsy cutters for...

That's basically what I'm running now. The patent for that BH2212 is expired, and Modern Ag has copied it. The photo is in the first post of this thread. Basically, Modern Ag copied the design and deck because they have a design engineer who used to work for BH designing the Modern Ag cutters...

Yeah, Woods makes a single wing HD cutter as well. For what I do, I really need 2 wings, with a total cut of 12'

Let a neighbor go fishing in my private pond for catfish. He probably took home 30 pounds of catfish. Saw him a few weeks later and asked him how the catfish were... He went into how horrible they tasted because they didn't taste fishy enough for him, and the meat was so tender it would fall...

That would be my pick on colors! I'd want a gloss coat paint though. Simply because I keep my tractors waxed to repel brush scratches.

No wonder their paint colors match so well! :LOL: I'm just being funny.... I've known for a while now who owned what. 😉

I think if they intended on refunding anyone, there would have been communication by EA to that effect. Not just on their website, but personal communication to each and every customer they couldn't fulfill orders with. Even after the crash, I would have expected communication to customers who...

If I were you after all that, I'd not buy anything you can't take delivery of when you pay. You may have to pay before it ships, but I'd make sure it's in stock and ready to ship. The business model of paying way in advance is now walking around with a black eye.

Well that sure wouldn't stop them from telling people on their Facebook page not to order anything, or for that matter, as the owner of the webpage contact the web host to shut the internet sales site down.

That works to a point. But how about the people who don't know about the train wreck, and order stuff today or tomorrow? How about people expecting someone to answer the phone to address issues, parts, and orders? I guess the only "proper avenue to recoup any monies" leaves a bad taste in my...

Everyone is getting a pretty good picture now that it closed, no orders are being fulfilled, and no news of any refunds other than charge backs to credit cards. Add in the fact that the website will still let you place an order and pay for it, and you get an even clearer picture.

Don't go putting this off on my lack of comprehending what you have been saying here in this thread. I'm not stupid, and I can clearly comprehend the written word. Your gaslighting won't work on me and many others who have seen what you post. Don't insult our intelligence by playing the...

Because that seems to be exactly what you have been doing here for the past several days?

At what point do they stop taking money on new orders? Today? Tomorrow? There appear to be people ordering as we speak who may not know about what's going on, or they wouldn't place an order. How do you defend taking people's money currently, with everything that has happened?

That's the way it works when businesses have items in stock and ready to ship, as soon as they can get them shipped. It's another thing totally when you pay the entire balance before something is even scheduled to fabricated. Of course if you knew that going into the process and agreed to the...

I had to look. It's an ATV with a mowing deck... ;)

Been following this here and other places as well. Don't have much to add, other than I'm disappointed that an established business didn't protect their most valuable asset.... Their customers. There are others who will feel the impact of this as well. Like material suppliers, employees, and...

I didn't consider doing that in the above case because once I got down, even my weight on the ground within 30 feet of the tractor was all quicksand. It was wobbly and shook like jello just walking on it. On the front of my tractor is my front hay spear, and it wouldn't do anything but stick in...

Yessir! That's pretty stuck! :oops:

I've been there and done that too! :LOL:

It sure can get like that sometimes! Either feast or famine with the rain here the last 3 years. Mostly famine..

That's funny! Thanks! :D

Yeah, of a sort... The guy didn't have much experience, and after instruction and a couple of fails, we got it out. I had him in the stuck tractor. Had to explain the clutch and stepping on the differential lock a couple of times. 😉

I found some! Literally. Had over 8 inches of rain recently, and I know enough about this area to use an overabundance of caution before venturing forth. But even so, I get taught better by Mother Nature every couple of years. :LOL: You can tell by the mud mark on the rear tire that I didn't...

Unless you have an ag/timber exemption, the dealer will add it to the cost of the tractor and collect it for you..

Yeah, down here I don't use the 12' for brush cutting beyond an occasional small mesquite or huisache bush. Mostly just mowing for pasture management... dove weeds and broom weeds are a bane here, and people cut them before they go to seed. I also see that JD cutter is made in Mexico. I'll bet...

That actually looks like a pretty good cutter. I like the separate hydraulics and foam filled aircraft tires too. Like you, I drive tractors between projects and those laminated cutter tires don't do well on the road. I may have to go see if the JD dealer has one on the lot for a closer look...

Saw that one online, and it looks pretty good.

Woods sells them that way too. But for the ranch pastures I cut with lots of trees, having only one wing would limit my turning direction to just one way while getting the wing under the canopy.

Who are you referring to? I don't want any 3pt mower at all. But I do have separate hydraulic controls to operate the wings (both, not individually) and the deck height. My Woods 15' came that way, and I split off the wing/deck on my Viper myself.

Eddie, mine came the same way, but I separated the hoses and fitted the wings with their own hose and remote fitting so that I could run them independantly. Sometimes I have need to raise the deck as the cutter is running, and don't need the wings to raise. Like crossing an obstacle or road. I...

Yes. My guess is both... On one side now, it's getting new bolts and double nutted. They got to where they wouldn't tighten, and I use a long cheater. It still vibrated so badly it wore the splines on the stump jumper to the point of needing a new one... Those are only about $600 each. :oops...

Thanks for asking! In my own opinion, I think the only thing the specs do is give you an idea as to how sturdy the gear boxes and drive lines are. That "cut rating" for 2" or 4" or whatever is a very flawed system that should be done away with, in my opinion. Say you have a cutter rated for...

I'm gonna go against the grain here somewhat... The prices I'm seeing for the tractors you listed are $34k to $40k-ish. I'd be looking at machines like the NH Workmaster75 or a Mahindra 6065 or 6075. Maybe even in the used tractor market. Or a Kubota 7060. I'm a firm believer in getting more...

Lots of folks buy lighter duty cutters down here in the brush country I live in, and just thrash them out cutting thick brush. I've had at least a couple of dealers tell me they know the customers buy those and use them far beyond the capacity because they are less expensive, and once the gear...

That's a lot of weight to be flopping around in less than smooth pasture conditions. Most Cat1 and many Cat2 3pt systems just won't take the beating.

Without a doubt! That's the gap I'd like to see filled in by something better.

My dealer that sells Modern Ag cutters also sells Rhino cutters. They look interesting, but when you look at the specs, it's only rated to cut 1.5 inch thick brush. VERY light duty cutter. My Viper is rated at 3"... Even though I don't cut much brush with it, the cut capacity is related to...

I have a Woods BWXHD180. Owned it about 10 years, and is an EXCELLENT cutter that has by far exceeded my expectations of what a cutter should be and do. (y) Here's the larger tractor and 15' cutter. But with my Ag Service/Ranch business, I have need for a cutter that turns tighter, is...

I have been looking for a high quality 12' batwing cutter for a long time now... 😣 They make great 15 foot cutters, but when you want a 12' for tighter areas and less horsepower, the lineup of what's out there is just disgusting. Currently I have a Modern Ag 12' Viper. I have a love/hate...

I'd go with what HayDude says. Pretty much mirrors my opinion. Rough terrain can make the 3 point style a real PITA as well, and the more things get jostled around in rough terrain, the more likely something will break or go wrong too.

LOL. Which tractor brand doesn't have crossovers into different paints and brand names? The list must be very short indeed.

Your tractor has the same type temp gauge mine does. Mine is an $80k msrp tractor, and I had not thought I was shortchanged by the gauges... ? I guess I just don't need to see the specific degrees it operates with, or have it count down the gallons of fuel I have left. Instead, I just pay...

The trend of one dealer owning and operating ALL the dealerships within a certain geographic area is not in the consumer's favor. :( There are several examples of that where I live. One company owns all the JD dealerships within 100 miles. Another company owns all the Case dealerships in the...

After doing some serious tractor shopping not long ago, I took serious looks and test drives in John Deere, Kubota, and New Holland, and even included Massey Ferguson, as they sell those at the New Holland place too. JD was nice, and had the features and power I wanted, but was $27k more on one...

South Texas.

:LOL: Define "farmer"...

You do it right! (Per your area, needs and time frame) That today drive is a rural county road that turns to a Farm to Market road for most of the 10 miles, then turns onto a gravel road to get to the ranch. County Rd- about 18mph. It can get bumpy. Farm to Market road- 25mph. Gravel county...

Just got back in from putting hay out for cattle on a ranch I manage... It's 10 miles from my place. Drove the tractor over there, speared and put out 2 bales, threw some bags of cubes on top of the spear tines, and gave them some range cubes, squared away the bags and wrap, and headed home...

Yeah, like I said in the Op, some do and some don't. You have to take in account what type tractor you have, how far to move it, what's going with it? You also have to consider your local roads, laws, and how many times a year you move it... ;) For me, I move bigger tractors and cutters that...

Some tires last much better than others if you are on the road with them some. Inflation PSI has a lot to do with tires lasting longer as well. The tractor I traded in a few months ago was about 10 years old and still had the factory rears, and I had put one set of fronts on it in 10 years...

My dealer sells both AGCO and New Holland. They sell quite a few MF tractors here.

Darkness caught me putting out hay for cattle with a 10 mile drive home... Had to turn on my Christmas lights before heading out. 🎅 I just feel better, whether daylight or dark, with some good flashing lights on the back.

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When I take my tractors on the road, I don't want an "escort vehicle" per se. Some guys I know have someone drive behind them with the emergency flashers on. In my opinion, if someone coming up behind you doesn't see a large tractor in front of them on the road, they probably won't see a...

That's pretty much what I do in the busy season here. I have a circuit to run and try and go from one to the next nearest without jumping around. I'll even call folks when I'm in their area, because I know if I don't, and get 60 miles away, they will call and need me. :LOL:

Our paved farm to market roads are usually pretty good. County roads can be a bit rough. I slow to the road, or speed up if it's nice and smooth. Also, pulling a 5000 pound batwing shredder makes a tractor ride easier too.

Some do and some don't. I have to admit that roading my tractors to a place up to 40 miles away is probably easier, less time consuming, and safer than driving a big tractor and shredder up on a deckover gooseneck trailer and trailering it to the place. :unsure: By the time I hook up the...

Worst summer I've ever seen. :( Glad it's over.

Can't complain about the a/c at all. I ran it in temps exceeding 110* from when I got it, while running a 15' batwing in dry conditions, and it worked good. With the grass chaff and dust in those conditions, I blow out the radiators and all filters including the a/c filters in the fenders...

It's been great! Both the 120 and the PS 75 have around 150 hours each on them.. enough for me to get a feel for them. No trouble, and exceed my expectations.

Warranty should start at purchase, so you have that. Probably be hard for me to justify the later year model if it was the same and $10k more. Overall, year model matters less than hours & condition in the long run.

I hear you, and agree in most cases. But I deal with my tractor dealer on "ACV" (actual cash value) when talking buying or anything involving a trade. I get the lowest cash price I can out of him. That includes whatever incentives the manufacturer may have. Then I will decide to opt the trade...

I dunno. I did okay with the Case, and plan to sell the New Holland once I get 10 or 12 years down the road. Knowing how I maintain and take care of equipment, I'll probably do okay with that New Holland too. The reason I got 2 new tractors this fall was to continue my ag services business for...

They hold value well, but I'm not certain they are any better than some other brands of large utility or farming tractors. I recently added a new tractor and shopped JD hard. Took a very long, comprehensive look at an apples to apples tractor, and found out it was $27k more than the very...

You would probably come out better by buying, doing the project then selling. Might be some good tax benefits as well. Probably re-coop the money paid for the tractor, and might even make more than you paid when you sell, if you take care of it.

I'm just not sure that is the case. CNH utility tractors 75hp to 120hp are made in Turkey in a CNH/Fiat corporation factory. LS does have a 100hp utility tractor in their lineup, but I wouldn't be surprised if they aren't of Turkey origin as well. I may be wrong, but I try to stay abreast of...

They have a 12' and they can add 4' batwings to each side and make it a 20'. But as far as I know, that's the only widths.

Eddie, I've had that about 5 years. It's made by Armstrong Ag here in Texas. https://www.tractorhouse.com/listing/for-sale/197317801/2023-armstrong-ag-rh12-p-other-tillage-equipment Not only do I use it for leveling plowed ground, but I use it in pastures to knock down gopher mounds and fire...

Gate openers are all a PITA. Always something with them. But, I installed a Ghost system about 3 years ago. Put a couple of batteries on it, but it works fine. No mess ups. Most friends that have Mule openers are very often having issues. Not sure why...

Got a hydraulic top link and installed it today on my PS120... It lifted up just as it should and solved the issue! (y) I swear, tractors ought to come with these as a standard top link! Think I'm going to get another one for my PS75 so I won't have to swap them out. Before: After:

I level and break up clods after discing with a 12' ridged harrow. I know... 2 steps, but I break up a lot of hay fields, and if you are plowing right, you can't have anything dragging behind the disc. At least in my opinion...

Congrats on the new New Holland! (y) Like you I ended up going blue after doing extensive shopping and research and lots of legwork. I liked the John Deere 5115M, but not $27k more than the very similar Powerstar 120 I ended up with. Kubota was more expensive as well, and wasn't remotely as...

Case/New Holland make a decent tractor, so you'll probably be happy with the tractor. It's more of a small acreage/weekend warrior type tractor, but will do fine for that type use. Most people don't put huge hours on their tractors like that, but USE it. The more you use it, the better it will...

It seems to me like a DPF will sure shorten the life of an exhaust system. Not sure if they are all burning that hot, but if you see one re-gen at night, chances are the entire exhaust system will be glowing orange from the heat... That HAS to shorten the life of exhaust parts.

I have two brothers... Both have a small tractor. One has a 25hp JD and the other has a 25hp Kubota. As a joke, I remind them a couple times a year that my lawn mower has more horsepower than their "tractors"... :LOL: One brother in particular is probably too scared to run anything bigger...

My rear spear has a 48" spike and two shorter ones. But my short ones are underneath the main spike. I just think I can get as much lift as I need with the hydraulic top link. Should solve the issue. I don't have trouble with the front loader spear because it has 2 48" spears and as much lift...

Yessir, you are correct about the bottom pin difference. May take a little grinding and perhaps a bushing to make them interchangeable, but it's not much work.

Toplink mount has 3 hole settings. I'm in the bottom one. The bale spear itself is for Cat 1 or Cat 2 either one. The pins are on top of each other where the top of the toplink mounts. I can use either, but either one doesn't make a perceptible difference in lift height. For some reason, in my...

I'm pretty sure I have everything set up to get maximum lift. ;) Aside from the 3pt hitch itself, there's a knob that allows some adjustment on hydraulic lift with the lifting arms which link to the lower arms. Yeah, you are right, The toplink is extended because when I retract it, the point...

I hear ya, but the Case and New Holland tractors don't have as much lift height as some others. My Mahindra 6075, that I no longer have, would lift much higher on the 3pt, and I never had an issue. Used that tractor for moving hay a LOT. But since I've gone all Blue, I'm hoping that...

Thanks for the link! Yeah, both my tractors are Cat 2, so that is one question solved. I'll get out and measure the 75hp toplink for ordering the hydraulic replacement. The toplinks on it and my 120hp are similar in length, so if I need it on the 120, it should pin right up and work okay.

I've been cussing CNH products for years for not making a 3 point hitch system that comes up high enough to move hay bales reliably. 🤬 The issue is I can't adjust the top link to lift the bale high enough if the bale isn't really firm, or had a somewhat wallowed out center from being moved...

Great story! (y) Sounds like he would have gotten by cheaper to hire a guy who could change implements... :LOL:

I've looked at those, and see where you'd really put one to good use in the hay business! I've got a tifton85 field now that yields really well, but until I get some more dedicated hay fields leased or established, I just make do with round balers. Mostly what I use my CTL for is clearing...

You have some neat stuff there! What kind of business are you in with your equipment? I have a 6 foot cutter for my CTL, but honestly, I only use the cutter for certain things like cutting along fence lines and in between trees and such. You put 90hp at 2500 plus rpm's behind 6 foot of cutter...

Hay Dude made a great point about having a skid steer as a compliment to multiple tractors as well! (y) A good tracked skid steer can take a load off of wear and tear tractors shouldn't get anyway. Like digging a pond... Or clearing thick brush from an old oil well for plugging operations...

I hear ya! Yeah, sometimes I keep one tractor hooked up with a cutter, and another with bale spears just to use them that way and keep from hooking up again. I DO have a tracked skid steer, and it's unbelievably useful around here. (y) If I have both of my tractors engaged elsewhere, I even...