massey ferguson 165

Hi I’ve recently brought a Massey 165 mulit power. From what I have found on Google the hydraulic oil filter is under the top cover,is that true does it need removed to gain access to changes the filter. I’m also unsure of the year of this Massey as the only number I can find that look like...

Hi I have a massey ferguson 165 deisel tractor. I think it's a 1972 (9A 139627). It had a generator I think and an external regulator. Also has switch underneath oil pressure gauge. The wiring has been worked on by the previous owners. It is in complete shambles. The previous owner said just to...

hi i have a massey ferguson 165 diesel AD4.203perkins engine is it possible to remove the oil pan with out removing the front of the tractor

I have the opportunity to buy a massey ferguson 165 gas from a friend. It does not have multipower. I got it home with the contingency that if the PTO didn't operate any equipment that I might pass on it. I don't know much about Massey tractors but I found out that this is a two stage clutch...

Hi, I pulled the lift cover on my 1967 165 Massey to put new rings into the lift cylinder. I also added a replacement relief valve in the tractor case. When I put the cylinder on I thought I got the position and draft control lever arms in the correct positions (based on the manual). The...

I’m new to tractor ownership. Bought an older tractor (year?… late 60s?). MF 165 At idle (low rpm) lift arms go up/down as they should when I raise/lower the lever. However, while lever is in the down position if I rev the engine to higher RPMs the left arms creeeep up slowly … all the way...

Hi - I just purchased a 1965 165. It is a basic model. No lever for power shift and just a 3 speed hi/low gear. I was surprised that it doesn’t have live hydraulics - have to let the clutch out in neutral or gear before 3 point lifts. Seem normal for a 165?

I have had this Massey Fergusen 165 tractor for almost 20 years (bought from a tractor master) and never had any major problems. It was featured on the back cover of Farm and Ranch Living magazine, titled - Red, White and True, June/July 2016. Stuck gears and some busted hoses have been my...

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Hi All! I'm servicing a 1974 Massey Ferguson 165 Diesel with a spin on oil filter. The tractor came to me with a WIX 51333 installed. I have searched local parts houses and online (RockAuto, Amazon, eBay, etc) and they are either out of stock or priced at over $50, which just seems silly...

Good day We recently bought a secondhand Massey Ferguson 165 tractor (year and hours unknown). The tractor is fitted with a MK2 hydraulic pump. The lift or pump however do have so issues. When we try to hook and pickup/lift heavy implement (slasher) the tractor does not want to lift the...

Picked up a diesel 165 for a back up tractor. Just picked it up so havent had time to go over it really to check for any issues. So far ive noticed they have the diff lock pedal locked out where it cant be depressed. Anything to look for on these particular models that are problems?

Have a 6' woods on it.. I just got it rebuilt a month ago.. So Im bush hogging been running about hour half it dies.. check the gas I got about a 1/2 inch So I put 5 gallons diesel in it.. It was about a hour time I went to get some fuel put it in wait about 10 min and it starts... I run it...

Just bought a MF 165 and am having a bit of trouble pinning down the year of manufacture. Serial number is 9A T2I945. Every list i have looked at shows serial numbers with numerals only in the last six digits. Any ideas? Can't find anything else with the letters "T" or "I" in it. Thanks in advance!

I have read a thread on an oil leak coming our of the bottom plate under the clutch. I purchased a 165 2 weeks ago that is/ or was extremely clean looking(see photo). I only ran the tractor for 20 min before purchase, then only for another 1 hr after i got it home just to move a loader for it...

I been looking on my 165 but where is the Diesel cut off on this tractor.. I pic would be helpful. David Tenn

Hello! I am in the middle of replacing the water pump on this tractor. I've removed the four bolts on the cooling fan which I thought would allow the fan to be removed. However, it seems like the nut on the water pump shaft holds a cupped washer in place which in turn holds the fan on. Do I...

I need the left side.. If your sitting on the tractor I need the LEFT HAND SIDE.. WITH out lights David 615-784-5210

I need the LEFT HAND side IF anyone knows of one.. How to get one David rave@usit.net

Our Massey Ferguson 165 tractor's fuel gauge has never worked. The fuel gauge was bad but I was able to order a new one (p/n: 1074336M9) for $20 here (can't include link because I'm a new-ish member, but just search eBay or where ever). Unfortunately the fuel sending unit on this tractor had...

Hi guys. Ever a lurker reading, can't find info on this gem of an issue. The hydraulics on my MF165 were a little jumpy for a while, then all of a sudden just quit working. Had always assumed the jerkiness was a little air in the lines and don't use it much so ignored it. Then one day the...

New member in trouble already. I'm about to put a new injector pump on my 70 ish Massey Ferguson 165. Pretty sure the engine is a perkins AD4.203. Isn't the pump located by a dowel in the drive gear and if so won't the timing be correct if I just line up the scribe marks on the new pump the same...

I have a 71 model massey Ferguson 165 that came with a mf 235 loader. I haven't put the loader on yet because I have a few things I need to do to the tractor first. My issue/question is my position for the 3 point lift doesn't work. The 3pt will raise and lower, even picks up heavy stuff pretty...

Hi Everyone! This is my introductory post as a new member. I'm living in Alberta Canada. We're starting a sheep farm and I have a 1971 Massey Ferguson 165 with Perkins gas engine. We're using the tractor mostly for movement of round bales which to this point has been with the front loader...

I was recently given a MF 165. I worked for several hours trying to get the tractor to start. The fuel line from the tank to the filters was replaced because it was plugged with a varnish like substance. The filters were replaced and fuel was able to be pumped into the injection pump. It still...

Hi All, So, I've been messing around with a new valve to give some additional hydraulic control capability to my 165. There's another previous thread about it. Anyway, it's come to my attention, through this project, that it's not quite the most ideal way to run external services with the main...

Hello, My name is Dan. I have a 1965 Massey Ferguson 165 with an AD4.203 diesel and multi-power transmission. It has a front end loader with a pair of dual action hydraulic lift cylinders to raise and lower the arms. When I got the tractor, the loader hydraulic hoses were connected to a small...

Hi, I have a 1960's MF 165, with a bent up nose cone and completely torn up grille. I am trying to get the proper parts numbers to purchase replacement parts. I have the original MF 165 parts book. I have ran into some trouble though. When I opened to the section on hood cap, grille, and...

Does anyone happen to know where I could get a new or used hood for my 1968 MF 165 diesel. I looked, and looked, but could not find one anywhere (just UK version). Any help would be much appreciated. Thanks.

Hi, I am new to the board, and I had a question I was hoping someone could help me with. My father-in-law gave my wife and I his MF 165 when he decided to sell his farm. He never did much with it, except haul bales of hay out to the cattle and every once in a blue moon use it to plant some...

Anybody put Murphy Switches on their 165 Massey? If so please post a pic. I'll be using mine for a few weeks to power a PTO generator thanks to the hurricane. Pics and tips are appreciated. Thanks, Michael.

Anybody put Murphy Switches on their Massey? If so please post a pic. I'll be using mine for a few weeks to power a PTO generator thanks to the hurricane. Pics and tips are appreciated. Thanks, Michael.

was wonder if I have to split tractor to rebuild pto clutch pack?

Hello, I am having a very hard time finding two parts for my later year production MF 165 and I am hoping to get some help. I am going to try and rebuild it in a couple years and will need more parts later but for now it is the fuel tap shut-off and the fuel sending unit. I'll start with...

Does anyone have any tips on removing the axle seal on a MF 165 or similar tractor?

After bringing the spacing in the alignment / tracking is off. Does anyone know if adjustment can be made at the spindle? I'll wear these front tire out quickly if I don't adjust. Thanks!

Maybe a stupid question, but, I have read the manuals and cannot find the procedure for disengaging the master brake latch, so left/right sides operate independently. There is a rod connecting both brake pedals, but, I do not see how to disconnect the pedals to allow independent braking. Please...

Does anybody know how to turn one if these tractors up? I want to use it as a puller for show. It's got a cav injector pump. We also have an injector test stand. I know i could risk tearing something up down the road by squeezing more horsepower, but I don't care to hear all that. I just want to...

Is there an adjustment as my arms have no middle ground its all up or all down. cant get anything in the middle at all any thoughts on where to start looking cheers des

I have replaced water pump and hoses on my MF 165. There are 2 bottom hoses and a metal pipe that go between the pump and the bottom of the radiator. The metal pipe is badly corroded and needs to be replaced. I can't find a replacement pipe and am wondering if anyone else has had this problem...

I have a MF165. The hydraulics was repaired and the oil pressure is good. However, the hydraulics is not working properly. My mechanic said the rollers on the internal shifters is bad. Can I source the internal assembly that controls the internal hydraulics.

Howdy My folk's family tractor that they use to feed their livestock threw a rod shortly after a local far, equipment shop rebuilt the engine. That company will not stand behind their work, so my folks are in a hurt. Anyone have an idea where we. Oils find a compete replacement engine or a...

Yest I was subsoiling my pasture. I have a drainage ditch on the far end of the field. When approaching the ditch 3-4 times I ran the front end down and partially up the other side of the ditch. This allowed me to run the subsoiler real close to the edge of the ditch. Well the last time I put...

Recently purchased a 165 diesel. Discovered that the line to the temperature gauge is gone. Ordered a new gauge and probe but cannot fine where the probe is attached to the engine. Any help? a picture would really help. :)

I recently purchased an MF 165. Don't know the year but it's a gas engine and the axle tubes look pretty square. The power steering doesn't work at all and the brakes are very weak. It has a FEL with a 6' wide bucket so I'd like to get both working. Brakes I adjusted the very long brake rod...

Hi, I have a MF 165 I just got. It has a fel that works off the tractor hydraulics, and one set of remotes. there are 2 spool valves in front of the seat, one for the remotes, the other lets you choose between the loader and the 3ph. The problem is, when using the 3ph the position lever does...

My uncle and I have been stumped on how to remove and replace the shaft seals on the power steering servo on his '68 model 165. Has anyone ever changed these seals?

I have a 165 FEL with aux hydraulics that has lost all hydraulics and the pto has stopped turning, however if you put a spanner on it and turn ( pto )then tractor moves forward, if you put pto in neutral and spanner pto, tractor moves forward, if you engaged two stage clutch to the floor and put...

Hello, I am new to this group, but from what I have seen so far it looks like a solid forum to join for tractor owners and operators. I just purchased a Massey Ferguson MF165 with a Perkins diesel and I am unable to match the serial number to anything I have found to determine the year, diesel...

Looking at a MF 165 with around 7500 hours. Perkins diesel. Checked the two weep holes and no issues there. Pto looked good. Doesn't have the extra gear change stick on the left of the steering wheel that can cause issues. New clutch. Needs a right front tire. What is a good price? They...

3 point hitch arms stay up. When I push the lever to lower them, they won't come down. When I remove a bolt from the top cover the pressure releases and the arms come down, and when I start it up the arms go back up again so the pump appears to be okay. I didn't use the hitch all winter and...

I have a Massey Ferguson 165, 4cyl Perkins Diesel. Came with a house I bought, previous owner said it was running when it was parked about 5 years ago. I flushed the tank, changed the fuel filters, changed out all the rubber grommets on the fuel lines, replaced the o rings on the throttle and...

Hi guys, I was having some lift issues with my 165. Not wanting to lift my finish mower. I had planned on tackling this over the winter but now here I am in the spring working on the tractor. Anyway turns out my pump has a busted piston. Also the piston rings are destroyed and one of the brass...

Hi everyone !! I recently bought a Mf 165 1968 with a Perkins AD4 203 engine. The engine was pretty dirty when I bought it and with the loader attachement I did not notice everything when buying it... I was cleaning some dirt on the engine when i noticed a fiberglass patch under the starter. It...

I wonder about how much to fix this?? and how much fair to buy AS NOW?? 165 Massey Ferguson Tractor Tks

Finally signed up and hopeful to get some suggestions and tips on my MF165 Diesel Restoration.

Hello all! I'm the proud owner of a 1965 MF165 with an AD4.203 diesel and multi-power transmission which was restored by the previous owner to a near original state about 5 years ago. The only thing they didn't rebuild was the drive train and transmission. Today I was out plowing and after...

I have a 1964 MF 165 that is/was equipped with Multipower. The lever is present, but the linkage is not hooked up. The electrical plug on top of the tranny housing that I read somewhere was also a part of it is present but the wires are cut. After pulling the top plate off, I found that the...

Before I get started, let me say a couple of things.... First, I absolutely love reading these forums. I believe some of the smartest, most adaptable individuals on earth are farmers. The amount of technical knowledge some of y'all have on here is amazing, so hats off to you. Secondly, I...

I'm new to tractor ownership. My wife grew up in farm country driving "tractors" (so old, rusted, and beat up they weren't identifiable as any particular brand), but that's been a few decades. We have 11 acres and bought a mid/late 60s 165 with a Continental G176. Engine runs great, gearboxes...

Hi. I have a MF 165 with a MF 32 loader. Pump on front of engine (perkins) I added a BRADCO 9MD backlhoe and was trying to power if off the loader pump. Dealer said to run pump to backhoe first, then to loader. I did that and now I have no hydraulic pressure at all. None. What did I do? I...

Hi everyone. I just picked up a 1970 Massey Ferguson 165 with Continental gas engine last Saturday. This is my first experience with MF, so I have a lot of questions. First, I understand this tractor has a two stage clutch. I'm not sure what that means. While I was bush hogging Saturday, I...

Hi all. I just picked up a 1970 MF165 with Continental Gas engine. It does not have power steering and I am wondering if it is possible to add power steering to this tractor. If so, how difficult and expensive is it? Also, it seems the brakes may not be what they should be. I can literally...

Hi everyone. I am new to the forum. I am going to look at a Massey Ferguson 165 with Continental gas engine this Saturday. They have it priced at $4,500. It has the multi-power option. The sheet metal is real straight and the paint looks good in the photos. The tires look almost brand new. The...

I have replaced my old fuel sending unit and gauge on my Massey 165. I replaced it with a 30-240 ohm fuel sending unit and a 30-240 fuel gauge. The old gauge only had 2 wiring posts. The new gauge has 3 labeled B, T and a ground. The sending unit only has one terminal. I ran a new wire from...

I see that this forum is pre-'70 models but mine is close. I just purchased my first tractor and it's a 2 owner '73 MS 165 with very little use. When I say little use I mean it has been used to shred and only has 460 hours on a working Tac. All gauges but fuel work. Besides...

I am looking to add front suit case weights to my 165. It already has the stock weight hanging bracket. My question is how do they attach? Do they just hang or is there some mounting hardware? Any ideas where to find some near Pittsburgh, PA. I have located two, they are 95lbs each. The...

When I bought my tractor it was converted to an alternator. Went to put it to work yesterday and the battery was shot. After checking the alternator it was giving me 0v on DC from the alternator. Is there any special alternator I need to buy? Let me know your thoughts.

I bought my 165 last fall. I have been using it to brush hog, broadcast seed/fertilizer and to pull a trailer. The engine runs well but the hydraulics are not as strong as it should. I have a woods Cadet 72 6' brush hogs. It's pretty heavy. If I keep the brush hog raised and turn off the...

Picked up my 165 today for $6250, trying to figure out the year. I'm told it's a 1969 but I'm thinking maybe not. I read the manual and I believe one of these has to be the serial number to the tractor?

I looked at the tractor this week and wish I had taken pictures but came away unsure if it was equipped with mulitpower or the lever was just missing. The owner is unsure having bought but never really used the tractor after deciding to downscale and buy a CUT. There was just an opening cut into...

Hi all, I have got back to doing some items on the rebuild project and when I started tractor up today. (Started without issues) It ran for a while and after about 10 minutes it shut off like it had run out of fuel. (All fuel issues checked) When I tried to start it hardly turned over and had...

Someone made me an offer I could not refuse on a MF165. I am not equipped to haul something that heavy. I am guessing the Loaded and weighted tires are more than a 1000 lbs each. My plan is to drive it on my 7k trailer, block it up, remove the loader and rear tires. Drive it 200 miles to...

It's my wife's late grandfather's old tractor... 1973 MF165 203 Diesel Multi-power trans almost 3k hours. It has been sitting in the rain for some time (at least 2 years uncovered, at least 10 without being run, exhaust was covered with a can) Rust has taken it's toll. I would really like to get...

Hi all, Happy new year to everyone. I have finally got to the stage of starting the tractor after some months of not being able to do anything due to time constraints. I need some help or direction with the following. Put in all new clutch, clutch shaft and thrust bearing etc. When tractor...

Hello, I have a 1972 (?) MF 165 with a Perkins gas engine, Model # AG4.212. The Operator's manual calls for Champion UJ8 plugs gapped at .025". Those don't seem to be available up here but they cross reference to Champion J8C. However, I'm pretty sure I read somewhere that the gapping range...

I just purchased a JD 50 backhoe if i build a sub frame will it work on a massey 165?

I am attempting to widen the front axle on my 165. Currently it is set all of the way in. I would like to move it out at least a notch or two. I was able to move the axle but the tie rods are frozen in place. Does anyone have any tips or tricks? I have a manual and read the directions...

Hello all. We just bought our first home on 35 rolling acres. With the house came a Massey Ferguson 165 diesel 2wd. We are not sure on the year. The previous owners started the tractor up and moved it out of the barn. My wonderful dear husband cannot figure out how to start it. It is definitely...

I am in the process of rewiring my tractor. Does anyone have any ideas of how the original fender lights wiring was run? Anyone have any suggestions or pics of how they have done theirs? Mine is 1968 and it has the flat top square fenders. I'd like to make it as clean and neat as possible.

Just bought the Massey 165 the other day. Can anyone tell me what each slider on the lift controls do? I know that one is the draft? There once was a sticker labeling the two but it has been painted over. Also what is the "response" control right about the transmission dip stick? There is...

Hello, This is my first post. I've been reading some great info from here the last few days. I have just recently purchased a Massey 165 Diesel. I have noticed some wiring issues. Battery does not seem to be charging. It looks like the wiring has been hacked up. The light switch is...

Any ideas on getting it out of positraction? Using right brake does not release it as it should. Perhaps brake is frozen?

I had a crack in the 3 spool valve on my Massey and looked up the part number to replace it. The new valve came and everything looked the same. The problem that I have encountered however, is that the control on the right side of the seat will not lower the 3pt hitch. It will raise, but to...

Hi I have an old Massey 165 and the hydraulics are jerky. I have been told that the filter inside the transmission need to be cleaned. How do I do this?

Hi all, I am in process of putting tractor back together after engine rebuild. Problem encountered when it came to installing new agriline wiring loom. - my mistake??? - I forgot to mark the wires before I took it off and I took no pictures at all so I am completely lost now. I have managed to...

I recently purchased a mf 165 The multi power works, but after awhile (2-3 minutes) it kicks down to lower speed when in high range. About the same speed as in low range. It is not free wheeling, so is still in high range. Then in a little bit it will go back up to speed. Then later will do it...

Hello my name is Corey i am new to the site. I thought some of the people here can help me with my problem i am having. The tractor is a MF 165 use it just around the house. Fill the fuel tank up about once a year. The problem i am having: while i start it up for the first time that day the...

Hi all, recently i replaced my MF165 dry brakes as although they were new, they soak so much in trans oil that end up useless and had to be replaced and not to mention that there was no braking at all but only a terrible sound like friction between two metallic parts. First of all park...

Steering control valve was leaking bad so I replaced the o rings and seal, discovered that the reason it was leaking was someone had it apart before and left out one washer and the snap ring that holds the spring in place, the spring was pushing the oil seal out of the assembly. Well now it's...

I need to remove and replace the fuel injector pump on my MS 165. How do I find TDC when installing the new pump. I found TDC on the flywheel, but no corrersponding mark on the block to line it up with. I cant locate any marks when I remove the front cover where the oil tube is and no marks when...

I need to rewire my massey ferguson diesel. The battery won't charge, I don't have lights. and it's getting frustrating. Any help would be appreciated.

Hey all, I have a 165 and had a technical question. When the lift arms reach the upper limit, where is the hydraulic fluid routed to, or is it? Is the pressure released through the pressure relief valve to maintain the arms at the top? The reason I ask is that when I raise the control lever...

I have posted a couple of threads concerning the 3pt on my MF165. Several of you have helped me tremendously to get this thing up and running. I have been successful in getting the 3pt to operate, however, when the 3pt reaches the top, it forces the diverter valve handle wants to pop back to...

Hey guys, Didn't know how to better describe it. I had a stuck spool valve on the hydraulic pump so I decided to remove the lift plate and clean everything out. I replaced the hydraulic filter but everything else looked great. My problem is when I reassembled everything, the 3pt will lift...

I got a diesel filter and now I realized it has primary and secondary filters on it, Are they different filters? How do I know what one I have? sorry for the stupid question Moderators please delete this repost, thanks

I got a diesel filter and now I realized it has primary and secondary filters on it, Are they different filters? How do I know what one I have? sorry for the stupid question

New to board, asked some questions and had some nice feedback...looking for more answers...thanks for helping out the beginner..got new oil, fuel , hydrolics and air filters but not sure how to change them all out ? also got leaky cyclinders on front end loader I want to repac? any help would be...

Hi all, I have attached some pictures of my MF165 (1974) which I have stripped the engine down to investigate oil coming out of the exhaust during operation. Any comment welcome on the pictures to see what you all think. There was no oil or water mixing in cooling system or in oil. Do you think...

I own a 1975 MF 165 tractor that I have owned since 2009. When I first bought it I noticed a few problems in using the PTO (bush hogging), but it was not severe enough to do anything about it. These problems are getting worse and I am at the point where I need to do something about it. Here's...

Hi all, Just purchased a MF 165 with the understanding of the 3 point not working. I have attached pics of the hydraulic lines and where they are attached. Im trying to figure out if the way its hooked up makes it where I cant shut off pressure to the loader to use the 3 point. Any help...

Is it possible to adjust the clutch through the inspection cover

My MF 165 loader and linkage operate very slowly, but will still lift a good load, it has been suggested that the pump filter may be blocked. I am trying to get the lift cover off to check the pump filter, the Draft response lever and dash pot have to be removed to disconnect the control...

Hello everybody, just bought a Massey ferguson 165, 1965 year model with 203 engine and thought of changing all fluids starting with trans. What oil do you suggest? I'm thinking of Texaco 15w-30 s.u.t.o... thanks in advance...

The injector pump on MF 165 leaks fuel from the throttle link at the injector pump. Can you tell me what seal or fitting goes in there to keep fuel from leaking? If I don't turn the fuel valve off at the tank the fuel will leak from there and drain the tank over time. I have a repair...

does anyone have the Massey Ferguson 165 owner, parts, or service manuals in a PDF format? if not where is the best and least expensive source for them?

3 point seems to work up and down fine, but will not lift a big bale. Stops about half way.

does anybody know how much fuel (& pressure), should come out of the top bleeder screw(which houses the kill,& accell shaft linkage),during the final step of fuel bleeding, on a mf165?. The bottom screw releases good bleeldout spray, when opened, but the top screw only dribbles,I have varied the...

Newbe here so be gentle:confused2:. Where do I add fluid for the power assist system on a 1971 or 72 mf165 2wd. This does have a factory loader. I can't turn it either way. I have adjusted the actuator before so it will be the same left and right in the past. Leaks everywhere and they need to be...

I had this Canadian made 1974 built MF 165 for some time with the regular maintenance intervals completed. I have no Idea if the hydraulic filter has been changed, but I have not done it and decided while doing the trany fluid change to clean it. After spending a whole day on the computer to see...

Im trying to determine if the injector pump is bag on a MF 165, diesel. It sped up ,& quit running,with a small fuel leak at the 1st cannister filter.I changed all filters,& sequentially bled thru 4 points. When it is turned over it will spray hard out of the bottom 5/16 bleed screw on injector...

I recent bought a massey 165 for 2200 but it needs a clutch. I got the tractor split and a new clutch and pilot bearing and throw-out bearing. I cant figure out how to remove the throw-out bearing so it would be great if someone could help out,thanks

hello I got my new to me tractor, and split it to put in a new clutch with help from my dad. I was wondering how to remove the old clutch release bearing to put a new one on. thanks

Blowed a headgasket on the mf 165 had the head resurfaced is there a revised headbolt torque fourth head gasket done on the tractor brought to me to fix 55 to 65 ftlbs

I have been looking for a cheap tractor to replace the one I sold a couple of years back. Last nite I was told of a MF165,with fel that is for sale.they are asking $1600. Tractor is running and all hydraulics work, but the clutch seems to be stuck. It will crank in gear and drive, but the clutch...

Hi Guys I have been thinking about a second tractor and a year ago a friend of mine bought this tractor in show room condition with the promise from someone who was going to let him groom land for rabbit hunting with his hawk and after my friend bought the tractor the guy told him no. So...

Can someone tell me what this hitch is called? I've never seen one and is there any other attachment that uses these mountings? Thanks Rick

I have been looking around for quite some time now for a Tractor Rebuild project, I have always had a Massey Ferguson at the top of my list. In the last week I purchased a MF165 from a friend of a friend for very low money (I could not refuse, the price was so good). It has not ran in 5+ years...

Howdy, Been casually looking for a diesel 135 or 165 for a while and ran across this one at a manageable price. It's a 1970 165 based on the serial number, but appears to have had a few modifications over the years (fenders and seat catch my attention). ~4,000 hrs on the meter, 4x2 transmission...

I just bought and old MF 165 for 3K. It has some problems. The first one I need to figure out is the power steering, which is getting air in it. Then when the 3 PT lift is in constant run mode (at the top of the cycle), the steering wheel can spin out of control without the front wheels turning...

Can anyone here advise me how to get at the radiator in order to remove it? I've already dented one panel doing this, and it turned out i didn't even need to get that panel off to get at the radiator. I'm a bit lost as to which panels i need to remove to get at the radiator so i can replace it...

hi, Looking for an operators / owners manual for a 1974 Massey Ferguson 165. Hoping to get a PDF version so I can print it out. thanks in advance for your help

Hi There Can any one help. I have a mf 165 round axle with a core spline shaft. I want to make it in to a 4wd but in order to use a 4wd kit i would need to change the main shafts from core spline shaft to a fine spline shaft, if i lets say bout a gearbox off a mf 165 with square axle this would...

Hi There Can any one help. I have a mf 165 round axle with a core spline shaft. I want to make it in to a 4wd but in order to use a 4wd kit i would need to change the main shafts from core spline shaft to a fine spline shaft, if i lets say bout a gearbox off a mf 165 with square axle this would...

hi, anyone tell me how to clean the airfilter on my tractor - I put in a new waterpump - had to grind off the retaining bolts and such to get at it - put new thermostat in (there wasnt one when I opened it up - is that usual ?) and then battled to get a new pulley belt that fitted - new one was...

hi, I was looking at the list of mf vintage and see mostly 135 series mf so just wondering does anyone know of any source of on-line video where I can see how to change a waterpump on my 165. It is a 1977 model with round axle and has faithfully worked away for 10 years without any trouble but...

Hi all I've just purchased a square axel MF 165 with a MF 80 loader on it, I haven't really done much work with it yet, the tractor is in very good condition, I'm just wondering what will the loader lift, would it lift 1000kg ? As I plan to lift silage bales with it. Thanks The Loader

I recently replaced my engine on my tractor it is a AD4-203 and now i want no family using it while iam away working but diesel's dont need spark you can just unplug switch and jump out on starter i need to install something so it cant be started any ideals on what to do thanks steve

I have a MF 165 and the arms go up and down but when i put load on them they go down, ive checked the strainer, changed the oil, isolated the main diversion valve to rule out the main piston and seals, think the pressure relief valve is faulty as i cant hear the pump any more, but have flow...

does a tractor make any noise when the pilot bearing is bad or will it run and work ok the motor i installed brand new i just keep thinking i damaged it when instaling engine cant get it off my mind

If a tractor has a bad pilot bearing how can you tell will it make noise thanks steve ot's a disel engine

As I have said in another post I am shopping for my first tractor. I really like MF's. I've been looking and learning about MF 135's and MF 35's because that is what I saw for sale most. I found a MF165 in my local area (yeah, no driving) but I haven't seen or heard much about them. Are they...

Continue to have fuel problems. My tractor after starting shuts off after 20 to 30 minutes. If I loosen the lower vent plug - air bubbles come out. This happens every time the engine shuts down. Is this typical of an air leak in the fuel system somewhere? Also, when I operate the manual pump...

Purchased the MF 165 from a family friend for salvage value. Perkins Diesel that has a knock like someone is tapping with a hammer. Appears to be a small amount of engine oil the the coolant also, but not visa versa. Seller says it is a 1974 model. If the engine is worth repairing it will also...

I have a new to me 1965 Massey Ferguson 165 Diesel which has 2 AUX hydraulic hoses mounted on the rear. I want to purchase a 3 PT Hydraulic log split er and need to learn how to use the Remote hydraulics. The tractor does not have an independent hydraulic pump and must use the internal...

Howdy, located in sw Jersey, prefer 70% or better. Thanks, JoeB, will travel. 609 387-2435

Just had the injector pump rebuilt - I am now having issues keeping the tractor running. It will idle or stay running at 10,000 rpm with out any issues. The problem is - three times now it has died on me and the only thing in common that I can think of is it happened when the rpm's were above...

I had water in the oil so i pulled head to replace gasket and found the first piston close to radiator with lots of slack 3/16 or more the other 3 pistons are tight so what would cause the engine not to wear equal and what do i do now pull motor and rebuild the sleeve on that cylinder is realy...

Finally got my MF 165 started...now when I start it it revs up high then back down to idle...idles OK but when I give it fuel (diesel) it just stays idling...doesn't accelerate.

In my hast to have the injector pump rebuilt - I did not mark where the two fuel lines from the pump go ( I know back to the fuel filter) , but which outlet. There are two places on the filter marked with arrows ( one pointing in and the other pointing out). From the pump - the end where the...

My Name is Bud and I recently purchased a 1969 MF 165 diesel I need to replace the lower lift arms I can not find/source the original equipment and I am trying to find after market that will fit. My current ones measure 34 1/2" center to center, cat II at the tractor and cat I at the...

The serial number on my Perkins engine is 29D6387 -does this mean it was produced prior to May 31, 1966? Can any further identification as to the year be determined? Thanks

Great reading all of the threads. Can I just remove the small access plate (crankcase fill point) and remove the three bolts? Leaving the gear in place? The dowel pin does not need to be removed - it is used to align the gear / pump for timing - correct? Any feed back would be appreciated

would greatly appreciate it if someone wold tell me how to time the injection pump before I take it off for repair,thank you.

165 diesel inj pump leaks around backend of pump, where it is put together from what I can tell. is this an easy fix or not?

Does anyone know where I can get a timing diagram for my 165 Massey? It has several timing marks, not sure which ones are the right ones. Thank you to anyone who can help me.

Hello my mf 165 psi won t turn. What could be the problem? thanks ton holland

165 Massey diesel throttles up & down by it'self, now it won't stay running. I Changed fuel filters and it ran for a while, but now it won't catch & keep running. I now have drained the fuel tank and I'm thinking of adding fresh fuel. Would that work? Or do I have more problems. It's a 1965...

Have a MF 165 with different issues when bought used. Looking for a manual to help with fixing and to figure out what guage the different wires should be in the wiring harness. Does anyone know how to tell if the ignition switch is good or bad? Thank you in advance! J

HI all, my friend has a MF 165 and the steering is dangerously loose. All the slop is in the pivot pin / power steering control mechanism in front of the radiator behid the grille. I found .040" slop caused by wear on the pin; the bronze mikes out okay, so the steel wore, not the bronze! Also...

I have been reading your replays & I must say a lot of people know a great deal about MF tractors but I do have a problem with my MF 165 & maybe you all could help me if your have a little time? Long story as short as I can, it's a MF165, Serial # 9AI9I42I; it has a GM alternator with the volt...

I'm considering buying a 1969 MF 165 that has a problem with the 3 point hitch. The owner says the loader works which is connected to the same hydraulics that operate the 3pt hitch. He says 3 point hitch does not work at all. I think the tractor is a decent price at $4,000 for the shape it is...

Can any one help me. Can I just remove the cover and replace the seals

The tractor started pouring hydraulic fluid from around the starter. Any ideas??

Hi all, I have used the forums to try and sort issue with mf165 . I ran low on fuel. Would not start again. Changed filter and bleed system and worked. However it keeps cutting out after ten to thirty min and then can take up to thirty min to restart. Today it stopped again and I noticed that...

Hi i have removed and cleaned the hydraulic filter on a 165 to do this i removed the right hand plate (when standing from rear of tractor looking to front of tractor) and the top cover which was fine, removed filter and cleaned up all OK, when putting back together before top cover goes on and...

Looking for a operator and repair manual for a MF165. ANY help is appreciated and thank you in advance.

new member from West Virginia an hav- bought an older model MF165 tractor. will have several questions and things I am looking for to post here. by chance found you all while looking for info bout my older Troy Bilt tiller. Any an all help will be appreciated an thank you in advance. grew up...

I am new to this site, have a Massey 165 built in 1971 (England) with 212 Perkins diesel. New to me but well used. Everything seemed to work when we looked at it, but lift arms shake, and won't lift my drum mower, will lift lighter items (5' tiller) if throttled up. I have seen older threads...

Hey All, I'm rebuilding my 64 Massey 165 with the Continental Gas 4 cyl and I just opened the package with the sleeve and piston and it's a completely different piston then the stock one.....stock is a flat top and the new one is a domed (raised portion on top) and it is taller by almost 3/8's...

My MF 165. 1964 year has developed an oil leak from what appears to be a vent hole in the bottom of the cast housing near where the motor connects to the transmission. The oil is engine oil and I suspect the seal at the rear of the engine needs attention. I would appreciate any comments on how...

I was curious what people thought, I have my MF 165 for sale on Ebay MF 165 Diesel Tractor with Load hours 1843 57 PTO | eBay After looking at the prices in want ad digest, I priced mine at buy now $8300, started it at $7380. What do you guys think of price?

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I have a 1974 Massey 165 Diesel that I picked up 25 years ago. I don't think it's humanly possible to kill this tractor. I had to put a clutch in it just after it was purchased which was the only major expense that occurred. The front end is loose as it could use a few(many) tie rod ends and I...

Hello all, I was lifting with my bucket on my sweet old MF165 today - heavy load and revving about 2000. The engine started missing and then backfiring (very loud) and I had to cut down the throttle and it caught up and ran again for a while. It got worse and worse until it was basically...

Just wondering if there is a way to tell what year a mf 165 diesle is with out the data plate on the steering colum? Seems there is a rash of removal around here to get parts with the data plate in hanc :(? The only numbers on the motor are cast C371122101 B278 and stamped at the top are...

I have a mf 165 diesel. starter is "hanging" someitmes if i bang on starter it will kick in/over. any thoughts?

I need the wiring diagram for a MF 165 diesel that shows the complete starting and charging circuits w/ components as well as a diagram for all of the lighting and gauges. Thank you for your help, Steven

Anyone have any experience with the 130 dollar aftermarket pto input shaft after a price of 800 from dealer i decided to try it. opinions if you have them

Hi all, I just bought a "new" tractor. I have never owned a tractor before, and know nothing about them. The farmer I bought this one from showed me how to start and drive it. This one is about twice as big as those I have been looking at (both power and weight, rated 58 hp engine from...

Just registered on this site and it seems very helpfull to a lot of people. Just bought a MF165 serial number: 9A37425 and it was sold as a 1974 but I have checked on the net and I think it is a 1967. Also when it runs parked, there is a sound inside the trany like something is engaged like a...

I see where the MF 165 came as a Category I, II or I/II for the 3-point hitch. Now that I am resurrecting the 1967 MF 165 I snatched (got it for $1500 running and needing some repairs here and there), I am at the point of replacing the lower link arm balls assembly on the left side. Is it best...

My new to me MF 165 is snapping front axle pins like pretzels. First time after moweing about 10 acres of fescue. That cost me about 500 bucks in parts. Any ideas why?

Just purchaced a mf 165, I'm trying to figure out the right way to use the loader,there is a lever to the right of the seat,when its forward the loader goes up and down fine but the bucket wont tilt,when its back the bucket tilts fine but the loader wont go up,any helb would be great,thanks,Jim

I'm going to start this question by saying that I have a cheap single lever remote on my MF165 and want to change it. Now I've seen a cross hydraulic valve on my Dad's MF165 but is has an adapter mounted to the tranny between the standard 3 level valve. Anyone know the part number or where to...

Can anyone post or email me some exploded or schematic veiws for the clutch and pto on a Massey Ferguson 165. Thank you.

where is the air cleaner located on mf 165 perkisn diesel? can i shoot starting fluid into the air cleaner opening? also any know of a source for an owners manueal for this tractor?

How do you tell the difference between a perkins gas and continentel engine on a mf 165. Also how can you clean the hydraulic filter when there is no acess port and the left side plate is where the auxilery hydraulics is hooked to so you can't get to the filter as described in the manual.

When i have the linkage in transport position it makes a loud knocking noise. Is this normal or is there somthing wrong? or is it the relief valve? Thanks

I am going to get my 165 engine rebuilt and not sure if for a complete rebuild including the following will need the engine to be removed. Also what do you reckon of the agriline kits or should i go for genuine Perkins? What price should i expect to pay to get it done? 4 x 7360 Piston - 3.5...

Hi there, my MF165 is leaking diesel from the bleed screw on the CAV fuel pump. Does anyone have any ideas of the cause and how to fix it? Also the screw wont tighten up and just keeps turning. it is NOT cross threaded. Thanks ina advance, James

Just purchased an older 165--wheer is the oil filler "cap" located on this. It has a Perkins diesel

Just bought an old mf 165 perkins diesel. Qusestion--where is the dipstick located to check the engine oil level.

Was about to go home tonight after shredding. Have controls in front of the seat and on the right side. using the ones in front of the seat. Was raising the shredder when it sounded like a bolt head snapped off. From somewhere under the piece that bolts onto in front of the seat to hold the...

I have a 1967 Massey 165 and ever since I got it it has had 80/90 gear oil in the trans/3point. The 3 point and impliments are slow:mad:, is this correct oil or not:(? Thanks, Don from Canada:confused:

I have a MF 165 that I am redoing. It has sat in a pasture for about 2yrs when I got it. After a little bit of work I got it running. It has the perkins diesel engine; it smokes pretty good on startup but after running for about 10 mins it clears up some. It is a white colored smoke. I was told...

I need to know what the speeds for a MF 165 without multipower is by the gear. 1 low - 1 high 2 low - 2 high 3 low - 3 high 4 low - 4 high I know I could measure out 200 feet and drive the distance measuring with a stop watch and calculate it but I am in a pinch for time and thought maybe...

I am looking to purchase a tractor to maintain 15 acres in Texas ... mainly bush hog, some discing, front end loader work ... I looked at the a new kubota, but, they are close to 16K for a 35 hp tractor ... I found an used massey ferguson 165 that is going for 1200 ... I am going to look at it...

I just purchase a MF 165 multi-power, 1964 model. It has power steering. It turns good to the right, but has no power when you turn to the left. Does it just need adjusting, if so, where? or does the pump up front need to be rebuilt. This is the first of many questions I have about my new...

Hi Guys I just got everything serviced and my MF 165 started to leak some oil from the filter. I tighten the nut and man it really leaked then. I was going to replace the old filter. IT is the kind that has a metal casing and there is a screw threw the center. I found a site that will sell me...

My father-in-law just picked my up a Massey 165 at auction recently and I need to go pick it up and have implements to carry back as well. I am trying to get an idea of what is the ideal size trailer for this tractor with at least one implement attached. I will we using a 2007 Tundra 5.7 4 x...

Hello Guys Thought I'd better say hello. I've just become the owner of a very standard and original 1973/4 MF 165 with the A4-212 engine and wet brakes. I'm getting to grips with it (its quite different to the Fiats, David Browns and Zetors I grew up with), sorting out manuals and the like...

A friend of mine has a 165 and the 3point lift arms will not operate up/down. Several years ago I purchased a TO20 with the same problem. I dropped the pump and replaced the relief valve. Could this be the same problem? Any help would be great!!

Anyone have plans to self build a box blade? What sise will my Massey 165 handle. I live up north in British Columbia and to buy and ship one would cost too much. Thanks

What size box blade will my 165 handle? They look like the cats xxx for leveling my field and maintaining my driveway. I am a retired welder mechanic and are there any plans I could download to make my own? I live in norther British Columbia and freight to get one would be more that the cost of...

I have a 178, and my uncle has a 165 with a cracked engine. Both are diesel with MP. Are any drive/hydraulic components interchangeable that would make it worth getting the 165? Another option would be finding another engine for the 165, but haven't had much luck on that end. How interchangeable...

I was at my local NAPA store trying to buy a new battery for my MF 165 gas tractor, but they weren't able to look up the correct one, even with the MF part number. Does anyone know what battery would be the right one from them?

I'm trying to remove the pump shaft for the MF32 loader from the pulley on the crank. I'm asking for your help to understand if the flange that is bolted to this pulley is threaded (left or right?) for the shaft that connects to the pump on the loader or is it a spline connection? If it is...

Here's some pics from my investigation as to why the 3PH is not working. I bought a filter (see pic) and could not find the one to replace....so I took off the top lid and I found a mess of metal shavings and a torn up filter holder.:eek: The big question....what should I do to fix the...

Hi everyone, Just bought my first tractor, MF 165 (as is). 3 point hitch worked when I tried it out, (didn't hook it up to anything) but now after getting it home, it won't lift any thing with weight like my brush hog. Just ordered an owners manual, but was hoping to get a jump on what's wrong...