#1 Reason I love IR Cameras

[studor]

Sorry -- I missed where the intrusion was coming from.
Odds are these guys are not viewed as fine upstanding community members by the rest of your neighbours either.
Seeing as you will not be doing a lot of "porch visiting" with these guys, I think a permanent pile of well placed boulders at the access from your neighbours is probably a better idea than gates! Maybe even a berm for your new 100 yard rifle range??

 

[Flatheadyoungin]

oooo, that's a good one......

You could even fill the pipes with cement to make their work even harder to cut through it.

 

[john_bud]

If you really don't want to step to their level then do what is right to begin with, talk with them. They are family of your neighbor, right? I have adjoining property that belongs to just as sorry person, yet we have no problem due to simple polite and decent conversation. Have had to call another neighbor regarding one if his family members and handled that with a polite how are you and here is why I am calling before it becomes a problem.

It may come across as a one time deal and a knee jerk reaction, but they have been doing this for a number of years. I HAVE spoken to them on the trail, in the woods and even at their house many times. They have given responses from innocent denials to flat out bald face lies to belligerent bellowing that they "were GD well going to go any GD place they want and I sure as H wasn't going to stop them". It isn't a relative of the neighbor it IS THE NEIGHBOR and his relatives. They have not changed their behavior one whit talking to them as they frankly feel entitled to do what ever they want because they are in a place where the chance of a warden showing up is zip.


Eddie - I will be putting up 3 gates but will have to wait until the road work is completed. The road is typical forest trail pushed in by a dozer and is lower than the surrounding gound in many spots so it is soft with a capital S. That is one of the triggers that have me upset as I had a dozer in for 2 full 10 hour days 6 hours on the road) and while the road was still settling they were rutting it up again.

 

[Ridgewalker]

It may come across as a one time deal and a knee jerk reaction, but they have been doing this for a number of years. I HAVE spoken to them on the trail, in the woods and even at their house many times. They have given responses from innocent denials to flat out bald face lies to belligerent bellowing that they "were GD well going to go any GD place they want and I sure as H wasn't going to stop them". It isn't a relative of the neighbor it IS THE NEIGHBOR and his relatives. They have not changed their behavior one whit talking to them as they frankly feel entitled to do what ever they want because they are in a place where the chance of a warden showing up is zip.


Eddie - I will be putting up 3 gates but will have to wait until the road work is completed. The road is typical forest trail pushed in by a dozer and is lower than the surrounding gound in many spots so it is soft with a capital S. That is one of the triggers that have me upset as I had a dozer in for 2 full 10 hour days 6 hours on the road) and while the road was still settling they were rutting it up again.

Have you considered beating the snot out of this guy? It might be worth the jail time.

 

[Tororider]

Have you considered beating the snot out of this guy? It might be worth the jail time.

Heck, if the neighbors and law enforcement don't like the guy, you may get off with only a night in the clink.

JB,
What type of gates are you planning on using? Another idea is to sink some phone poles as deep as you can get and use those as the uprights.

 

[SnowRidge]

JB,
What type of gates are you planning on using? Another idea is to sink some phone poles as deep as you can get and use those as the uprights.

Timberrrrrr!!!!

 

[NuBota]

This is a good thread - I am in a similar situation to John.

My MIL has some acreage, some of it waterfront. Her husband died a couple of years ago. And they had issues with a neighbor that actually built and used a dock on THEIR property. They have a court order against him. And there have been other trespasses by him and others.
I have basically handled all of the "man" stuff since her husband passed - but have yet to visit the property (40 miles away) and start to deal with that issue. She is still sentimental and doesn't want to go down there - but I know I have to start to take some action. This and other threads, like the adverse possession stuff, have filled me with some dread.

I hope to take the high road like John is doing - even considered paying the guy something for the pier - since I would probably have one built anyway. But if a fair offer and reasonable talk don't suffice - it could get interesting. I am very non-confrontational and patient - but once pushed too far the ol' "short-man" complex (I'm 5'6" ) will probably kick in high gear.

This thread has been a good motivator and has provided some good techniques. Thanks for all the great input (as is usual here)!

 

[SnowRidge]

This is a good thread - I am in a similar situation to John.

My MIL has some acreage, some of it waterfront. Her husband died a couple of years ago. And they had issues with a neighbor that actually built and used a dock on THEIR property. They have a court order against him. And there have been other trespasses by him and others.
I have basically handled all of the "man" stuff since her husband passed - but have yet to visit the property (40 miles away) and start to deal with that issue. She is still sentimental and doesn't want to go down there - but I know I have to start to take some action. This and other threads, like the adverse possession stuff, have filled me with some dread.

I hope to take the high road like John is doing - even considered paying the guy something for the pier - since I would probably have one built anyway. But if a fair offer and reasonable talk don't suffice - it could get interesting. I am very non-confrontational and patient - but once pushed too far the ol' "short-man" complex (I'm 5'6" ) will probably kick in high gear.



This thread has been a good motivator and has provided some good techniques. Thanks for all the great input (as is usual here)!

I would talk to a local real estate attorney first, just so that you go armed with knowledge of your rights and responsibilities. Since you are talking about a structure in the Chesapeake, I assume, you can run into all kind of permitting and environmental issues, some of which may be federal and therefore Byzantine in nature.

If something was done improperly in the watershed, don't assume they will automatically go after the person who did the deed. They may go after the property owner, instead.

 

[blueriver]

Have you considered beating the snot out of this guy? It might be worth the jail time.

Beat the snot out of him, when he's looking up at you flat on his back, grab his collar and tell him "go ahead call the law" and "when I'm done telling them you must have fell ... I'll be back to finish the job!!"

 

[MrWoodChips]

OK, dumb question time, what the heck is a burl and what would it be used for ?

Wood turners love burl wood. It has lots of character, lots of interesting grain. You will find some beautiful bowls, large platters, etc., made from burls.

John