12 to 18 month wait for new vehicle!!

[ovrszd]

You've never "needed" a realtor to sell property, it's just that it's a lot easier for someone who doesn't know the ropes to use one. I'm sure I'm not the only one here to have bought property in a private sale.

Yes real estate is a seller's market right now, though not to the extent it was a couple years ago. At some point the pendulum will swing the other way, it always does.

Define "destroyed". Maybe on paper, but trucks don't change all that much from one model year to the next, would make more sense to issue a new VIN and resell as the current year's model.

My widowed neighbor is trying to sell 40 acres with an earth contact house and a 50x70 pole barn/machine shed. She's asking $550K. She needs a realtor.

As to the destroyed trucks. I'll only believe that one way. That's if the government gave the manufacturers Covid Relief money for all those trucks that had to be "destroyed".

 

[bmg88201]

It‘s possible the government gave the manufacturers covid money to trash those trucks. But I’m sure, even if they got money, all they did was take them back to the plant and reuse the parts. But I wouldn’t put past our current prez to fund that screw up cause he is a special kind of stupid.

 

[ovrszd]

It‘s possible the government gave the manufacturers covid money to trash those trucks. But I’m sure, even if they got money, all they did was take them back to the plant and reuse the parts. But I wouldn’t put past our current prez to fund that screw up cause he is a special kind of stupid.

If they were "destroyed" the manufacturers got paid.

Someone mentioned changing the VIN and selling as current model. I would hope us consumers are protected from that in some manner. There's a pretty detailed tracking mechanism in place regarding VINs.

 

[5030]

Way back when I drove a roll off for an outfit in Detroit, they had an ongoing contract with GM in Pontiac and I used to pick up roll off boxes of brand new pickup trucks, bring them back to the yard where they were taken apart and the parts shipped back to GM where they were used in other trucks. Only the frames and sheet metal was scrapped. Everything else was reused. and interestingly, the GM people were always there watching and cataloging. One thing about the automakers and that is, if it's crooked, they do it.

I put nothing past any of the domestic builders. Used to do the same with Vipers as well. FCA is very dirty, always has been, but then GM (and Fords) is as bad.

 

[5030]

he is a special kind of stupid.

it's not him, he's just a mouthpiece.

 

[Oaktree]

Way back when I drove a roll off for an outfit in Detroit, they had an ongoing contract with GM in Pontiac and I used to pick up roll off boxes of brand new pickup trucks, bring them back to the yard where they were taken apart and the parts shipped back to GM where they were used in other trucks. Only the frames and sheet metal was scrapped. Everything else was reused. and interestingly, the GM people were always there watching and cataloging. One thing about the automakers and that is, if it's crooked, they do it.

I put nothing past any of the domestic builders. Used to do the same with Vipers as well. FCA is very dirty, always has been, but then GM (and Fords) is as bad.

Can't think of any non-domestic automakers I'd trust either.
Why would they even scrap the frames or sheet metal? Most of that stuff can be re-used too, if nothing else selling as replacement parts to body shops. I don't see anything crooked about re-using what they can. Most parts are interchangeable from one model year to the next.

 

[5030]

Because those parts have serial numbers whereas components don't.

It‘s possible the government gave the manufacturers covid money to trash those trucks. But I’m sure, even if they got money, all they did was take them back to the plant and reuse the parts. But I wouldn’t put past our current prez to fund that screw up cause he is a special kind of stupid.

They paid scrappers to destroy perfectly good running vehicles under Obama's Cash for Clunkers too.

 

[bmg88201]

Oh yeah, I remember that, during the ***** Obama era. I didn’t turn in any clunkers for cash cause if I did I wouldn’t have any thing to drive, lol.

 

[ovrszd]

Oh yeah, I remember that, during the ***** Obama era. I didn’t turn in any clunkers for cash cause if I did I wouldn’t have any thing to drive, lol.

Best I can tell, that program cost taxpayers $3 Billion.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

Sounds like problems in paradise. When dealers cannot sell their trade-ins, it kind of throws a monkey wrench in the works.

 

[tacticalturnip]

Those trucks are, slowly, going to the dealers. They're not going to be scrapped, they'll be cleaned and sent off to their new, unsuspecting, owners. There are plenty of special order trucks in that group, not just dealer requests.

The Super Duty forums are a fun place.

 

[Oaktree]

Those trucks are, slowly, going to the dealers. They're not going to be scrapped, they'll be cleaned and sent off to their new, unsuspecting, owners.

And why not? They're brand new trucks.

 

[ovrszd]

And why not? They're brand new trucks.

That have sat uncovered with the cabin tightly closed for a year in a parking lot.

 

[tacticalturnip]

And why not? They're brand new trucks.

Those trucks are not meant to sit for long periods; certainly not months at a time. They're being delivered with surface rust, electrical issues, windshield leaks, all kinds of various problems that may not have existed otherwise. Now, that said, they're also having some major quality control issues on top of that, so it's a huge cluster****.

 

[Gale Hawkins]

One of the upsides of this recession, depression or whatever they're calling for is delay of spending our money probably will no longer be a problem, but it may be a problem having money to spend.

 

[tradosaurus]

Have you asked people in any groups you belong to (church, softball league)?

I'll have my wife ask around her church. I avoid the organized religions that try to pick your pocket. Haven't played softball in 20 yrs.

 

[BleedingOrange]

I,m amazed some of you folks have the patience to wait a year or two for a new vehicle you have ordered, especially the fact of not being locked into a firm price, and not knowing for sure IF it will ever be delivered. My OCD will not allow me to wait, and wait, and wait. If I decide I want another vehicle, I do my research, and when I find what I want, at the price I am willing to pay, the deal gets done, very quickly.
I certainly don,t, and cann,t even wait for a dealer to get a lot vehicle ready for me in a couple of days. I quit buying new, and only buy privately now. The deal can be done in the same day. No waiting, no wondering, no loss of sleep.

 

[BoylermanCT]

I buy new because I have a GM credit card, and the points lower the price of the car. Saved $4500 on the 2022 Silverado we bought last year by using credit card points. And that is on top of other discounts - $500 first responder and $2000 dealer incentives. I'm willing to wait 3 months to get exactly the options we wanted at the price no other manufacturer could match.

 

[Jstpssng]

I buy new because I have a GM credit card, and the points lower the price of the car. Saved $4500 on the 2022 Silverado we bought last year by using credit card points. And that is on top of other discounts - $500 first responder and $2000 dealer incentives. I'm willing to wait 3 months to get exactly the options we wanted at the price no other manufacturer could match.

A former colleague had a GM card, also, and used his truck for work; banking his mileage checks. He was the type of guy who liked everything just so, and kept his truck pristine. He traded every 36,000 miles... sometimes that meant that Paul was buying a new truck every 9 months. At one time the dealer had 3 of his trades on the lot.

 

[Hay Dude]

I’m sorry, but that’s just plain nuts doing that. You are getting crushed on not only depreciation, but sales tax.
Sounds like a mental disease.