16 or 18' Trailer
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DieselD
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
I have a Kioti LB1914 and aB21 Kubota. I run them on a 18' trailer with very little extra room for other attachments.
When you purchase the trailer make sure the approach isn't to steep to bottom the hoe out in the ground. Not bad when your on soft ground but real bad on pavement.
I use a Hudson 5ton with 5' ramps 18' and works great.
Danny
I have a Kioti LB1914 and aB21 Kubota. I run them on a 18' trailer with very little extra room for other attachments.
When you purchase the trailer make sure the approach isn't to steep to bottom the hoe out in the ground. Not bad when your on soft ground but real bad on pavement.
I use a Hudson 5ton with 5' ramps 18' and works great.
Danny
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
I just went to that site. You don't want a metal diamond plate deck.
A muddy tractor slides, your extra stuff that you bring slides all over and of the trailer.
There nothing better then wood. IT also can be replaced when its worn and it doesn't dent.
Danny
I just went to that site. You don't want a metal diamond plate deck.
A muddy tractor slides, your extra stuff that you bring slides all over and of the trailer.
There nothing better then wood. IT also can be replaced when its worn and it doesn't dent.
Danny
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
I have an 18' car hauler with a diamond plate deck and I agree that it gets slick when muddy or wet. It works well for me, but I have to be careful to park on level ground if working in damp conditions.
Here's a link to a picture of it.
I have an 18' car hauler with a diamond plate deck and I agree that it gets slick when muddy or wet. It works well for me, but I have to be careful to park on level ground if working in damp conditions.
Here's a link to a picture of it.
CTyler
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
How much does that all weigh?
I have a L3130 with FEL and hoe and its about 54-5500#.
Also have a 7000# 18' dovetail car trailer. With the hoe on that puts me over wieght since the trailer weighs 2000#. Also 18' doesn't leave much room to balance the tractor on the trailer either. Had to hang the bucket over the front rail about a 1' to get it balanced ok with the hoe on. Without the hoe its ok. Now throw an implement on there as well and your balance is off again. Now you have very little if any room to move the tractor around to balance it again.
I've only hauled it once with the hoe on and the tires were half flat when we loaded it from the dealer. Bent the ramps pretty good as well. Stopped at the gas station down the street and pumped 50# in the tires and they still looked low.
Parked the trailer at the house in town and made a trip to the trailer shop. Had them run over the ramps with a forklift and then welded on some angle iron. They weigh about 90-100# each now. Went home and hauled the tractor out to the farm.
No bending this time! I bought new tires rated at over 2k# each
before hauling the tractor again.
The trailer was purchased over 5 years ago. I never dreamed I'd have a tractor let alone a hoe at that time. My next trailer will be 20' rated for 10k# with slide out or folding ramps. Its a pain to carry a 100# ramp around.
Well thats my 2 cents.
How much does that all weigh?
I have a L3130 with FEL and hoe and its about 54-5500#.
Also have a 7000# 18' dovetail car trailer. With the hoe on that puts me over wieght since the trailer weighs 2000#. Also 18' doesn't leave much room to balance the tractor on the trailer either. Had to hang the bucket over the front rail about a 1' to get it balanced ok with the hoe on. Without the hoe its ok. Now throw an implement on there as well and your balance is off again. Now you have very little if any room to move the tractor around to balance it again.
I've only hauled it once with the hoe on and the tires were half flat when we loaded it from the dealer. Bent the ramps pretty good as well. Stopped at the gas station down the street and pumped 50# in the tires and they still looked low.
Parked the trailer at the house in town and made a trip to the trailer shop. Had them run over the ramps with a forklift and then welded on some angle iron. They weigh about 90-100# each now. Went home and hauled the tractor out to the farm.
No bending this time! I bought new tires rated at over 2k# each
before hauling the tractor again.
The trailer was purchased over 5 years ago. I never dreamed I'd have a tractor let alone a hoe at that time. My next trailer will be 20' rated for 10k# with slide out or folding ramps. Its a pain to carry a 100# ramp around.
Well thats my 2 cents.
GaryM
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
I have an 18' trailer with a 2' dovetail. It's a double axle with electric brakes on one axle. Should have gottten brakes on both axles. The 2' is part of the 18'. The trailer's rated at 7K Lbs.
My tractor is a JD4100 with FEL and JD413 cutter. I only have about 1' of leeway to shift the unit back and forth for balance. Without the cutter attached there's a lot more room. I wish I had gone for a 20' unit.
I have an 18' trailer with a 2' dovetail. It's a double axle with electric brakes on one axle. Should have gottten brakes on both axles. The 2' is part of the 18'. The trailer's rated at 7K Lbs.
My tractor is a JD4100 with FEL and JD413 cutter. I only have about 1' of leeway to shift the unit back and forth for balance. Without the cutter attached there's a lot more room. I wish I had gone for a 20' unit.
Egon
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
What are you pulling the trailer with? Will it be bumper hitch or gooseneck?
From similar questions in the past and my own trailer I'd recommend a two axle 10,000 pound 20 foot or more trailer with four wheel electric brakes.
The gooseneck will pull easier and handle better.
Egon
What are you pulling the trailer with? Will it be bumper hitch or gooseneck?
From similar questions in the past and my own trailer I'd recommend a two axle 10,000 pound 20 foot or more trailer with four wheel electric brakes.
The gooseneck will pull easier and handle better.
Egon
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
my tractor w/ hoe attached is 5600 or so pounds. I have a new Bri-mar 12,000 lb 18 ft trailer. It is the biggest Bri-mar (length) makes. I wish it was a 20 footer. I have to put my loader up and over onto the tongue in order to load and balance tractor/hoe. No steel/aluminum decked trailers for me, they are instant death.
my tractor w/ hoe attached is 5600 or so pounds. I have a new Bri-mar 12,000 lb 18 ft trailer. It is the biggest Bri-mar (length) makes. I wish it was a 20 footer. I have to put my loader up and over onto the tongue in order to load and balance tractor/hoe. No steel/aluminum decked trailers for me, they are instant death.
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
Oh, yeah... the trailer is rated for 7000# and it weighs 1500#, so the usable load is only 5500#. It is fine for our needs, but might be too small for a CUT with a BH.
Oh, yeah... the trailer is rated for 7000# and it weighs 1500#, so the usable load is only 5500#. It is fine for our needs, but might be too small for a CUT with a BH.
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
I'd sure go with 18'. If your truck can handle it I would also go up to 10,000 lb. axles. 7000 lbs. is rarely enough for my needs.
I'd sure go with 18'. If your truck can handle it I would also go up to 10,000 lb. axles. 7000 lbs. is rarely enough for my needs.
fishman
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
I haul my 2910 with loader and box blade on a 20' car hauler with twin 3500 lb axles, one with brakes. 2' of the 20 is a dovetail, leaving me with 18' of useable deck. That's just about right. I sure wouldn't go any smaller than an 18' car hauler.
I kind of wish I'd gotten a 10,000 lb capacity unit, but it was almost 50% more cost and I've got plenty of capacity for my tractor. I don't know how much more a backhoe would add. I always make sure my trailer tires are aired up to the max recommended pressure as well.
I haul my 2910 with loader and box blade on a 20' car hauler with twin 3500 lb axles, one with brakes. 2' of the 20 is a dovetail, leaving me with 18' of useable deck. That's just about right. I sure wouldn't go any smaller than an 18' car hauler.
I kind of wish I'd gotten a 10,000 lb capacity unit, but it was almost 50% more cost and I've got plenty of capacity for my tractor. I don't know how much more a backhoe would add. I always make sure my trailer tires are aired up to the max recommended pressure as well.
fishman
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
Oh, one other thing I forgot. The dovetail does make ground clearance a problem if you have to cross ditches or the like, as it hangs down in the back. This is less of a problem with a regular utility trailer. If you are always on somewhat level ground, it's not an issue.
Oh, one other thing I forgot. The dovetail does make ground clearance a problem if you have to cross ditches or the like, as it hangs down in the back. This is less of a problem with a regular utility trailer. If you are always on somewhat level ground, it's not an issue.
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
<font color="blue"> My next trailer will be...with slide out or folding ramps. Its a pain to carry a 100# ramp around. </font>
I say this every time someone mentions getting a new trailer so I'd hate to let this time pass without comment. Get a tilt bed trailer and you don't have to worry about ramps at all. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Another advantage is that I don't have a dovetail at the rear taking up a couple feet of flat floor space. My floor length is all useable, loadable space.
I have a 26' trailer with a 22' diamond plate floor. Yes, the diamond plate can become very slippery when it's not dry, but so can wood in many instances, too. The trailer has a hydraulic pump run by an electric motor to power it. This setup has made life so much easier.
I added an 8000# electric winch to mine so I can even load a dead vehicle with no problems at all. With a 40' winch control lead I can even steer something on while the winch is pulling it. Once I get it loaded I level the bed, hook a couple chains on the back then use the winch to take out the slack. A manually snugged safety chain on the front as a backup for the winch brake and I'm good to go. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
That method works so well that now I tend to use it even with a running vehicle. It doesn't add much if any time to the process and I have much more control than I would driving it on. it's especially helpful if I'm loading something with which I'm not going to have much margin for error on centering it because of it's width.
<font color="blue"> My next trailer will be...with slide out or folding ramps. Its a pain to carry a 100# ramp around. </font>
I say this every time someone mentions getting a new trailer so I'd hate to let this time pass without comment. Get a tilt bed trailer and you don't have to worry about ramps at all. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif Another advantage is that I don't have a dovetail at the rear taking up a couple feet of flat floor space. My floor length is all useable, loadable space.
I have a 26' trailer with a 22' diamond plate floor. Yes, the diamond plate can become very slippery when it's not dry, but so can wood in many instances, too. The trailer has a hydraulic pump run by an electric motor to power it. This setup has made life so much easier.
I added an 8000# electric winch to mine so I can even load a dead vehicle with no problems at all. With a 40' winch control lead I can even steer something on while the winch is pulling it. Once I get it loaded I level the bed, hook a couple chains on the back then use the winch to take out the slack. A manually snugged safety chain on the front as a backup for the winch brake and I'm good to go. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
That method works so well that now I tend to use it even with a running vehicle. It doesn't add much if any time to the process and I have much more control than I would driving it on. it's especially helpful if I'm loading something with which I'm not going to have much margin for error on centering it because of it's width.
tomnky
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
I bought a Big Tex Trailer Model 10 PI.Which is a 10,000 pound trailer with brakes on both axles and a breakaway kit.
Here is the link to their page.Good Luck in Your search!
Big Tex Trailers
I bought a Big Tex Trailer Model 10 PI.Which is a 10,000 pound trailer with brakes on both axles and a breakaway kit.
Here is the link to their page.Good Luck in Your search!
Big Tex Trailers
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Re: 16 or 18\' Trailer
i just did this last year...went to an 18 ft trailer, but no dove tail...allowed me to haul 6 round bales of hay at a time instead of 4 on a 16 ft trailer...plus everything fits better...18 ft trailer, with 5 new tires, wood bed, 3500 lb axles..@ $1300, last year..
heehaw
i just did this last year...went to an 18 ft trailer, but no dove tail...allowed me to haul 6 round bales of hay at a time instead of 4 on a 16 ft trailer...plus everything fits better...18 ft trailer, with 5 new tires, wood bed, 3500 lb axles..@ $1300, last year..
heehaw
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