17 Hours 4075r, It started making an odd sound. I needed to move 2000lb pallets of pellets and could not pick them up.

[Sportsman762]

I was out and stopped by the Kubota today, but when asked about the L6060 lift capacity, they were unsure about lifting the pallets. I think the HST+ would be great on the steep hills here.

The John Deere 4075R with a 440R Loader is rated
Lift to Max Height 500MM in front of Pins - 1,885 lbs
Breakout 500MM in front of pins - 3,037 lbs
From the operators manual

OMPXX10906

Kubota L6060 with LA1055 Loader is rated
Lift to Max Height 500MM in front of Pins - 1,784 lbs
Breakout 500MM in front of pins - 3,171 lbs
From the operators manual

Operational Specifications - Kubota LA555 Operator's Manual [Page 16]

Kubota LA555 Manual Online: Operational Specifications. LOADER MODEL TRACTOR MODEL U LIFT CAPACITY (BUCKET PIVOT PIN, MAX. HEIGHT) V LIFT CAPACITY (500mm FORWARD, MAX. HEIGHT) W lIFT CAPACITY (BUCKET PIVOT PIN, 1500mm HEIGHT) kg (lbs.) X LIFT CAPACITY (500mm FORWARD, 1500mm HEIGHT) kg...

www.manualslib.com

I would consider the Kubota LA1055 loader darned close to equivalent to the John Deere 4040R.

I think the HST+ would be great on the steep hills here.

I would strongly consider looking at the 6060 as the HST plus is very nice on hills. Lets you keep the engine rpms up when climbing steep ones.

Maybe I don't have your story straight? But I don't think I would deal with the same dealer that cost you $4k for a broken tractor with 17 hrs on it? With a relatively simple problem to diagnose?
Personally, unless you dealer just refunds all your money on the old tractor, I'm not giving them another chance to mess up at my cost again....

I would be hesitant to go back to this dealer. Sounds like the service department is not well versed in repairing compact tractors. Also the sales department should have been fighting corporate JD to get you a new tractor since they were unable to repair the old one. Every major brand makes a lemon every now and then so I would not hold this against JD. However I would go find myself a new dealer even if that means a new brand. My opinion the dealer is just as important as the tractor. This dealer has not treated you right by failing to repair the machine, then failing to advocate to corporate for you, then not refunding you fully. That's three darned good reasons when one reason should be enough to walk away.

I'm interested in the YT359c as well; my prior 55hp struggled to pull the mower on them. Would the drive system in that pull better on the hills vs HST? I'm thinking of asking that in the Yanmar forums.

I do not know if the Yanmar HST is better on hills than a typical HST. New Holland use to offer CVT transmissions on their large compacts and they are much better on hills but alas NH discontinued them. Kubota offers the L5060 with a GST (powershift) transmission, but the 4 less horsepower might negate the advantages of the powershift. HST transmissions bog down on hills quicker than a direct drive transmission.

 

[kromc5]

The John Deere 4075R with a 440R Loader is rated
Lift to Max Height 500MM in front of Pins - 1,885 lbs
Breakout 500MM in front of pins - 3,037 lbs
From the operators manual

OMPXX10906

Kubota L6060 with LA1055 Loader is rated
Lift to Max Height 500MM in front of Pins - 1,784 lbs
Breakout 500MM in front of pins - 3,171 lbs
From the operators manual

Operational Specifications - Kubota LA555 Operator's Manual [Page 16]

Kubota LA555 Manual Online: Operational Specifications. LOADER MODEL TRACTOR MODEL U LIFT CAPACITY (BUCKET PIVOT PIN, MAX. HEIGHT) V LIFT CAPACITY (500mm FORWARD, MAX. HEIGHT) W lIFT CAPACITY (BUCKET PIVOT PIN, 1500mm HEIGHT) kg (lbs.) X LIFT CAPACITY (500mm FORWARD, 1500mm HEIGHT) kg...

www.manualslib.com

I would consider the Kubota LA1055 loader darned close to equivalent to the John Deere 4040R.

I went to the Kubota dealer because I like the HST +, but when I told him about my pallets, he said he did not think it would lift them. He said he would double-check and call me back, but there has been no update. I will contact him tomorrow. JD loaned me a 4044m/400e, and I did have to rev it relatively high I put 1100 lbs on the back, but it lifted the 2060lb pallet at roughly 49 inches. Compared to the Kubota, the 400e is similar: Measured at 500 mm ahead of the pivot, 1764 lb. I looked around at prices for the l6060 and found them from 65k to 78k just loader. Here are quotes I have received so far: large deltas on some among dealers, all with 3rd function, dual remotes backhoe: ns6010 57k, 2860m 65410 to 79k, yt359c 67,594 to 74161.

 

[Sportsman762]

The Massey 2860M is 60 engine HP but only 45 PTO? Wonder why it is so much lower than everyone else? Kioti NX6010 60 engine / 48 pto, Kioti NS6010 57 engine/48 PTO, Kubota L6060 60 engine / 53 PTO, Yanmar yt359c 59 engine/52 PTO. If your struggling with a 55hp engine tractor I am not sure the 2860M would be an improvement as the PTO hp is low compared to the others.

 

[kromc5]

The Massey 2860M is 60 engine HP but only 45 PTO? Wonder why it is so much lower than everyone else? Kioti NX6010 60 engine / 48 pto, Kioti NS6010 57 engine/48 PTO, Kubota L6060 60 engine / 53 PTO, Yanmar yt359c 59 engine/52 PTO. If your struggling with a 55hp engine tractor I am not sure the 2860M would be an improvement as the PTO hp is low compared to the others.

It is odd to see it so low, and I'm not sure why. I found a YT359C roughly an hour's drive from here and will see that tomorrow. I came across a 2024 yt359c on sale, almost 10k less than the Massey, 17k less than my closest dealer, and practically the same price as the ns6010. I called Yanmar and spoke with Andy in tech support. Looking at the transmission, I wanted to know if the clutch could slip under heavy loads or specific conditions. I often pull large trees from the river or loader work in our rock-filled red clay. He stated that it behaves like an HST once in gear, and I would not have to worry about clutch damage.

 

[kromc5]

We drove through four cities, which made for long day to look at Massey, Kioti, and Yanmar.
They had a 2860m with no cab for me to look at. It was a nice-looking tractor with a quoted price of just over 77k. The NS6010 is also a nice tractor. The cab on it is just so much bigger than the 4075r. They wanted me to buy it due to the 2023 discounts, but it was not a hydro. I liked the layout of the tractor, and everything under the hood was well-placed. Yanmar was a slightly bigger cab than the NS6010 and well laid out. The engine was very responsive, and high gear was usable with no extra throttle from a dead stop on an incline. It was very quiet inside the cab, ac worked very well. It has a very slight creep when forward and no throttle input. They will do a load test on Monday; if that passes, we will go with Yanmar. The 20k delta between it and the 2860m with the same configuration and backhoe also helps.

 

[hayden]

In this size range, I think the Kubotas are best. Bigger, I would favor other brands.

 

[kromc5]

In this size range, I think the Kubotas are best. Bigger, I would favor other brands.

The first dealer I went to was Kubota, right down the street. The HST+ would be great for the crazy hills. The dealer stated that the L6060 would not lift 2060 lbs at 51 inches.

 

[kromc5]

JD from Illinois called to ask more questions about my 4075r. Since repurchasing it, the tech has spent three days with it and has still not found the cause of the low flow. They tried another pump and got the same result. Yanmar surprised me today; I decided to purchase a yt359c, applied through Yanmar, and was approved. But Yanmar's insurance adds $10,000 to the tractor. The first quote did not disclose this, so it was a big surprise. The JD Insurance was only $1800. The quote from the dealer came in too late to call my own insurance company.