1964 Ford 2000 Parking Brake??

[TomSeller]

How do you know it won't kill the engine if you've never started it?

Why to you think the starter button shouldn't work with the ignition switch off? Is it supposed to run through that switch? Or is the starter switch a high-current load that can't run through the little ignition switch? As I recall our Farmalls of somewhat older vintage didn't use a starter relay but used a starter switch that carried the full starter current.

Terry

Right. In which case the push button will turn the engine over with the key in either position but without the key in the "on" position, there will be no ignition. Turning the key off in that case will stop the ignition and stall the engine.

 

[Homestead Blue]

I'll have to put a meter on it and see if that's the case. If so, that could be why it wouldn't turn over. I'm still not sure that it's getting fuel though.

 

[Soundguy]

You know we talked about the key killing the engine? Well I just realized the ignition has been replaced. It's just an on/off, not three-way, but that's ok because it has a push button start. But the problem is, the starter engages when the button is pushed with the key in either position. The key switch is either shorted, or wired up wrong some how. So it won't kill the engine. I'll have to dig into that too. I guess when I do get it running, in the meantime I can choke the **** out of it to get it to quit! Lol!

yes, no, maybee...

the key is only suposed to be 2 terminal. it is an on / off switch.

on sends power to the coil.

Originally a 2000 4 cyl gasser had a 4 terminal solenoid. when the key was on, power was sent to the solenoid, and pressing the big thumb button grounded it, and the solenoid operated.. thus starter only worked with key on. that was a safety upgrade from the 8n. In the 8n days, again.. key was only on / off. and the solenoid was 3 terminal. solenoid was wired automatically hot, grounding the small terminal on the solenoid via the big thumb switch makes the starter turn, key off OR on.

Someone has just wired your 2000 to work like an older model, either by putting a 3 terminal solenoid on it, or putting a 4 terminal solenoid on it and just wiring it always hot with a jumper wire.

It technically works fine either way.

As another poster said... as long as the key is making or killing power to t he coil, it is essentially wired acceptably.

 

[Soundguy]

I'll have to put a meter on it and see if that's the case. If so, that could be why it wouldn't turn over. I'm still not sure that it's getting fuel though.

it should turn over with the thumb button ( 3 terminal or jimmied 4 terminal ), not the key... ie.. not a key trn to start like a car. key is for the points.

 

[Homestead Blue]

Right, if the key is in the wrong position then I'm not getting a spark is what I meant.

 

[Homestead Blue]

Well, in buzzing out the key issue, I found that the wire going into the distributor was rotten. Put the meter on it and a string of cuss words was all that came out. Next step will be to try and find a wire because I don't have plug type wire in my magic box.

 

[Soundguy]

unclear which wire was bad?

the secondary high voltage wire from the coil tower to the distribuitor cap? or the low voltage primary wire from the coil primary to the side of the distribuitor?

 

[Homestead Blue]

Coil to distributor.

 

[Soundguy]

Coil to distributor.

well, as I said, there are ---2--- coil to distribuitor wires!

which one?

there is a primary and a secondary!

 

[Homestead Blue]

Oh sorry, it's the high voltage, but I'm going to order a whole new set of plugs and wires and just replace them all.