2011 Superduty are out! ! !

[Big Bri]

Either way the only end the GM and Dodge guys see is the tailgate.

Chris

Thats Funny:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

[brin]

Well I just stopped by a Ford dealer that had 3. 2 were Long Bed Regular Cab, a F-250 and a F-350 SRW, and one was a F-250 Crew Cab Short Bed. It was a Ranch King loaded. All were 4x4 gas 6.2L 3.73 gears with sprayed in bed lines and locking rear diffs.

The thing I do not get is why the idiot dealer ordered them with such low GVWR's. One was 9,200#, one was 9,600# and the Crew Cab was 10,000#. Come on, that is not a Ford Super Duty, that is GM territory. My 04 F-250 has 10,000# GVWR and my 06 F-350 SRW has 11,500# GVWR which is more like it.

The other thing is all 3 had the crap Continental Contratrac tires. They suck. I had them on my F-350 from the factory and would flat refuse them tires. They tried to deliver the 07 F-150 I ordered with them and I made them put the BFG's on it after have the Continentals on my F-350.




I guess the ugly thing is in your eyes. In mine Ford has had the best looking trucks for 20 plus years. Either way the only end the GM and Dodge guys see is the tailgate.

Chris

" Either way the only end the GM and Dodge guys see is the tailgate."

Chris....Oh Yeah...Well I have a 1990 Dodge Ram 50 long bed with only 35,000 miles on it and all you will see is my tailgate as I go zipping by..It says RAM ...and it is a beast ! :laughing:

 

[Egon]

Either way the only end the GM and Dodge guys see is the tailgate.

That's going uphill right!:thumbsup:

 

[Ken45101]

The thing I do not get is why the idiot dealer ordered them with such low GVWR's. One was 9,200#, one was 9,600# and the Crew Cab was 10,000#. Come on, that is not a Ford Super Duty, that is GM territory. My 04 F-250 has 10,000# GVWR and my 06 F-350 SRW has 11,500# GVWR which is more like it.

Sometimes those GVWRs are meaningless. We had a 2002 F-250 SD but the only way to get to the GVWR would have been to remove the engine! Seriously, with our horse camper we were overloaded on the rear axle by 300# but far under the GVWR of the overall truck.

Ken

 

[brin]

Check out this Ford 650...2 yrs. old but new and look what the dealer still wants for it...Now tell me ..you would have to really have a business reason for buying this truck at this price...What am I missing ?

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[Ken45101]

Either way the only end the GM and Dodge guys see is the tailgate.

Chris

Yep! That's usually all you see when they are in the repair shop bays

Sorry, I just couldn't resist! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

 

[Diamondpilot]

Yep! That's usually all you see when they are in the repair shop bays

Sorry, I just couldn't resist! :laughing::laughing::laughing:

I was thinking more like when the Dodge's and GM's are hooked on the back of all those Ford Wreckers. Or maybe its being towed out of the ditch.:laughing:

Either way its all in fun. Different strokes for different folks. I personally think GM is by far the ugliest and Dodge has a slight leg up on the looks compared to the Ford. Thats about all the Dodge has though.

Just trying to show some of our brighter members what may be ugly to one is not to another. Some will never learn.

Chris

 

[Big Bri]

Check out this Ford 650...2 yrs. old but new and look what the dealer still wants for it...Now tell me ..you would have to really have a business reason for buying this truck at this price...What am I missing ?

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Yes i would agree that the only person who would buy that truck would use it for some sort of business. They do make some NICE F650 that private owners have. They all seem to be crew cabs with a dully bed on the back. Asking why some would buy one would be like asking why someone would buy a hummer or a ferrari there is really no practical reason to own one, but for most guys we are fasinated by them from an early age and if one can afford it why not.http://www.cargurus.com/images/2008/06/02/15/43/pic-46196.jpeg

http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/dennert/archives/ford_f650_05.jpg

http://www.irancar.com/images/Gallery-larg-1024-768/FORD/ford_f_650_super_crewzer_2001_03_m.jpg

 

[Diamondpilot]

Yes i would agree that the only person who would buy that truck would use it for some sort of business. They do make some NICE F650 that private owners have. They all seem to be crew cabs with a dully bed on the back. Asking why some would buy one would be like asking why someone would buy a hummer or a ferrari there is really no practical reason to own one, but for most guys we are fasinated by them from an early age and if one can afford it why not.http://www.cargurus.com/images/2008/06/02/15/43/pic-46196.jpeg

http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/dennert/archives/ford_f650_05.jpg

http://www.irancar.com/images/Gallery-larg-1024-768/FORD/ford_f_650_super_crewzer_2001_03_m.jpg

If I had one of those trucks and the owner had a feather up his rear we would both be tickled.

Now thats Funny!

Chris

 

[Ken45101]

I was thinking more like when the Dodge's and GM's are hooked on the back of all those Ford Wreckers. Or maybe its being towed out of the ditch.:laughing:

I've never had to have a Chevy truck towed (oh, watch out tomorrow!) but the only Ford I had, had to be towed twice!

Last fall, my Chevy pulled a Ford out of a muddy field, LOL

Either way its all in fun.

Yes, it is. None of them are perfect. Now if we were talking tractors..... :laughing:

Ken

 

[wkpoor]

The thing I do not get is why the idiot dealer ordered them with such low GVWR's. One was 9,200#, one was 9,600# and the Crew Cab was 10,000#. Come on, that is not a Ford Super Duty, that is GM territory. My 04 F-250 has 10,000# GVWR and my 06 F-350 SRW has 11,500# GVWR which is more like it.

My bud has a 90 Chev 3500 dumper that is GVWR at 11.5K and its a 90 with a 350 gasser. Where DO YOU get those figures?

 

[Duffster]

Check out this Ford 650...2 yrs. old but new and look what the dealer still wants for it...Now tell me ..you would have to really have a business reason for buying this truck at this price...What am I missing ?

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Did it say what they want for it?

What am I missing? Is there something wrong with it?

 

[Big Bri]

Did it say what they want for it?

What am I missing? Is there something wrong woth it?

They don't say what they want but that it won't sell at "used" pricing

I think its just a leftover 08 that never sold

 

[mustangsallysdad]

They don't say what they want but that it won't sell at "used" pricing

I think its just a leftover 08 that never sold

Only price is $62,854.00 MSRP.

 

[Ken45101]

Only price is $62,854.00 MSRP.

I can understand why it is left over and never sold....:confused2:

 

[Diamondpilot]

My bud has a 90 Chev 3500 dumper that is GVWR at 11.5K and its a 90 with a 350 gasser. Where DO YOU get those figures?

I get it from the window stickers on the Fords I looked at today and what I know about trucks and GM/Ford specs on the 2011's. GM puts 9,200# GVWR on all 2500 series trucks and 9,700# or 9,900# GVWR's on the 3500 SRW series trucks. The Dually gets 11,400# GVWR. I listed the trucks I looked at as 2 F-250's and a SRW F-350.

My F-250 has 10,000# GVWR and my F-350 has 11,500# GVWR and its SRW.

Ford offers on the F-250 line a GVWR range from 9,400# on the low range upto 10,000# on the high end. There are 4 steps going 9,400#, 9,600#, 9,800#, and 10,000#.

On the F-350 SRW they offer 8 different packages with the low end being 10,200# and the high end being 11,500# There are 8 steps going 10,200#, 10,600#,10,700#, 10,800#, 11,000#, 11,200#, 11,400#, and 11,500#.

So just because it says F-250 or what ever there can be a world of difference in the capacity of the truck. Many have learned the hard way like me.

By the way the GVWR range on the F-350 Dually is on the low end 12,200# to 13,000# with 4 steps. They are 12,200#, 12,600#, 12,800#, and 13,000#.

What this amounts to is the guy doing the ordering at this dealer needs to go to school. Why would you want a HD truck without the heaviest package available? Like I said I made that mistake thinking its a 1 ton and soon learned my F-250 was more truck.

As you can see the Fords have more available GVWR across the lineup.

Chris

 

[Cat_Driver]

What this amounts to is the guy doing the ordering at this dealer needs to go to school. Why would you want a HD truck without the heaviest package available?

Chris

Two words - Grocery Getter.

 

[ultrarunner]

Yes i would agree that the only person who would buy that truck would use it for some sort of business. They do make some NICE F650 that private owners have. They all seem to be crew cabs with a dully bed on the back. Asking why some would buy one would be like asking why someone would buy a hummer or a ferrari there is really no practical reason to own one, but for most guys we are fasinated by them from an early age and if one can afford it why not.http://www.cargurus.com/images/2008/06/02/15/43/pic-46196.jpeg

http://blogs.venturacountystar.com/dennert/archives/ford_f650_05.jpg

http://www.irancar.com/images/Gallery-larg-1024-768/FORD/ford_f_650_super_crewzer_2001_03_m.jpg

Maybe the last one qualifies as a motor home if it has a sleeper? One way to avoid weight fees in some states.

 

[Dmace]

Thats about all the Dodge has though.

Don't forget the best diesel engine ever put in a light duty truck, standard integrated diesel exhaust brake & 5yr/100,000 mile warranty (Ford is 5yr/60k).

I do really like how many different configurations you can order the Ford in, it's nice to have so many different options. If that new diesel proves itself and they change the styling back to looking more like a Dodge like the older Ford trucks then they could have a really great truck.

As you can see the Fords have more available GVWR across the lineup.

Yes they do but is it necessary at all? Do you really think someone goes into a dealer to purchase a new truck and says "Oh, that truck has the 12,600lb GVWR, I really wanted the 12,800lb GVWR..." and is there really any difference in the two trucks like an extra leaf spring or stronger shock? I highly doubt it, once again it's just marketing and Ford is definitely the king of marketing...

 

[davo727]

$63K for a truck no problem for the investment banker to haul his toys to the lake.