2017 Workmaster 60

[OFarrell]

Anyone on here have a lot of hours on a large frame Workmaster yet? I'm considering buying a late 2017 60hp but wanted opinions from folks that have put some hours one one. It seems like a great no frills utility tractor with a ton of power for its size. My only worry with this tractor is that the low gear is not quite low enough for precision work. I see that there is a new Utility line coming out with a different engine and 12x12 transmission. Would I be better off waiting for the newer model assuming the 12x12 does in fact have a lower gear and it doesnt end up splitting the current 8x8 trans gears? Any other thoughts on these tractors?

 

[Nowhere]

Here’s a good start. If you cone up with any other threads drop a link for me, I’m looking into them pretty heavily myself.

https://www.tractorbynet.com/forums...-nh-workmaster-60-one-year-3.html#post5204370

 

[Turbys_1700]

I ran a 50 for two years with zero issues. I liked the size and high FEL capacity. Others on here have had intermittent issues with software and engine management. I had no issues at all. You need to determine the lowest speed you need to go and compare the speeds of the 8 speed transmission to see if it would be satisfactory for your application.

 

[BMan2005]

I see that there is a new Utility line coming out with a different engine and 12x12 transmission. Would I be better off waiting for the newer model assuming the 12x12 does in fact have a lower gear and it doesnt end up splitting the current 8x8 trans gears? Any other thoughts on these tractors?

Have any info on this?


Far as the Workmaster, Nowhere added the link to my 1 year review of mine. Been very satisfied other than those few little software glitches that they are belong to have fixes for now. Up to 155 hours now on mine.

 

[OFarrell]

I talked to the dealer today. He said the new Utility line will have a FPT engine and 12x12 trans. It's supposed to be available in November. He had no info on the speeds but told me the common complaint with workmaster tractors was the gearing. Hopefully the new transmission addresses that. I test drove a Workmaster 60 also. I think that in L1 it's going to be moving way too fast for pulling a transplanter or loader work close to vehicles and buildings. I really liked the tractor other than that.

 

[BMan2005]

I talked to the dealer today. He said the new Utility line will have a FPT engine and 12x12 trans. It's supposed to be available in November. He had no info on the speeds but told me the common complaint with workmaster tractors was the gearing. Hopefully the new transmission addresses that. I test drove a Workmaster 60 also. I think that in L1 it's going to be moving way too fast for pulling a transplanter or loader work close to vehicles and buildings. I really liked the tractor other than that.

Maybe so, I've said myself I would love a 12x12 on this tractor. For meticulous work L1 is perfect at idle which isn't where it needs to be working.

About the engine being made by FPT this time I always thought the Workmaster engine was. Mine has a plate on the engine even saying by FPT & it was on their site as the smallest of their engines with a full write up of each 50, 60, & 70's HP & Torque, but has since then been taken off the site. I even had a link to it on Fiats web site with all the info I posted here & it doesn't work now. Btw, I've also learned the Workmaster 50-70 engine was made by VM Motori by Fiats specs. Not an actual in house Fiat engine. Still, I haven't heard one bad thing about the engine & like you mentioned it has a ton of power for this tractor.

On gearing I would be ecstatic for 3 lower and 1 higher on a 12 x 12 leaving the rest of the spread where it is. Curious now

 

[BMan2005]

I talked to the dealer today. He said the new Utility line will have a FPT engine and 12x12 trans. It's supposed to be available in November. He had no info on the speeds but told me the common complaint with workmaster tractors was the gearing. Hopefully the new transmission addresses that. I test drove a Workmaster 60 also. I think that in L1 it's going to be moving way too fast for pulling a transplanter or loader work close to vehicles and buildings. I really liked the tractor other than that.

I did some research and found this. Using Cases link since New Holland's is not quite as detailed. But it will be a Workmaster 55, 65, 75.

Cab version, NICE!!!!

CNH Industrial Newsroom : Case IH Adds to Farmall Tractor Lineup

 

[Turbys_1700]

That will sell...
Big time...
The only reason I traded the 50 for the T4.75 was for the cab and the power shuttle...
Don't know the price point but it needs to be 5K-7K under the T series to be competitive...

 

[BMan2005]

Case is beating NH to the punch getting their stuff out.

Here is a good link with several pictures, the design and layout should be identical. In one picture it shows four tractors, two that look like today's Workmaster, and two that are the new Workmaster. The new one actually looks like a T4 powerstar. Curious

Case IH Adds to Farmall Tractor Lineup

 

[Nowhere]

I’d be curious to see some specs on the loader’s capacity vs. the new holland. In the past the farmall’s loader didn’t rate nearly as high as the new Holland’s (even though they’re the same thing)

 

[Turbys_1700]

The loaders to my knowledge are the same and should spec the same. Don't know why the specs would differ.

 

[Nowhere]

According the their website the only loaders that will fit a 50/60/70a Farmall is the L545 and L555. The L555 is the bigger of the 2. The latter has specs close to NH痴 611TL which is their smallest loader for for 50/60/70 workmasters. The L545 is way below the 611TL in specs. Maybe I知 missing something

L55 Series Loaders | Tractor Loaders | Case IH

TractorData.com New Holland Workmaster 6 tractor attachments information

 

[Turbys_1700]

The specs on the Farmalls do not match with their own literature. On the front page they state max lift of 1,742 to 3,142 pounds with heights of 102 to 125 inches at 800 mm from the pivot point. If you drill into the specific loaders they list the L545 at 1,250# max and the L555 at 1,782# max at the pins. The 621TL on the New Holland is rated at 3,550 pounds at the pins at 119" and 2200# at max height at 800 mm. Would not make sense to me that they would have different loaders on the exact same tractors painted different colors. Perhaps they do.

 

[Nowhere]

I think that literature your referring to may also apply to the other 2 loaders which only fit the “c” farmalls

 

[BMan2005]

Picture of the new Workmaster series. Looks just like the T4 powerstar. I'm wondering if they are renaming the powerstar and adding some smaller HP models in that frame.:scratchchin:

My dealer said he has limited info on it, but he expects to see it next month at a Ag show and he knows they already have a few pre ordered.

 

[Nowhere]

That looks significantly bigger than the current workmasters, but it looks like you’ll get your radial r1 option BMan :drink:

 

[Turbys_1700]

If it is a lower HP version of the T4 Powerstar I assume the tractor would be made in Turkey? To me it would be easier to slip in a lower HP engine in the T4 versus redesigning the current Workmaster to add 12x12 hydraulic shuttle and cab. If that is the case then the tractor could still be made in India. The only reason I traded my Workmaster 50 for the T4.75 was to get a cab. Soon as I do that New Holland puts in a cab on the Workmaster. Boy is my timing off.

 

[BMan2005]

Nowhere, Yeah I see that . It will be according to how rich that new cab version is for me to upgrade to those radial R1's though I wouldn't trade for another ROPS tractor, I do like my WM 60, but working all day in 100* heat could be more enjoyable with a cab if CNH isn't wanting T4 prices for this thing.

 

[BMan2005]

Here is a link to download the new Case Farmall A 55, 65, 75 brochure that has all the info on the new tractor. The Workmaster will be the same, can't find a brochure for it.

Pretty dang nice, but I don't see a buddy seat in the cab pictures, that would probably cross it off for me. They mention keeping it very affordable, curious what that would be though.

https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&sou...WMAZ6BAgDEAE&usg=AOvVaw1oX0NzCND4fL2G0DWez6Lw

 

[Turbys_1700]

I noticed that it has a stated 81.8" wheel base in 4x4. That is longer than the current Workmaster 50/60/70 series which is 77.5" and shorter than the current T4 which is listed as 82.8". I bet it is the same chassis as the T4 series and they put in the current 50/60/70 engine, 12 speed shuttle option, and cab. Makes sense to me. Guess they decided to leave out the buddy seat to save money along with the manual spring seat. They are trying to hit a 35K-40K price point. Probably made in Turkey.