2019 Silverado

[Industrial Toys]

No. But to order a truck with what you want is virtually impossible. It's all about packages and trim level. I got a good deal on an 08 when GM was going broke. Free Duramax and Allison. Cash deal. My Dakota had been written off in an accident, no fault of my own and the settlement was a good starting point. I always wanted a Diesel (if you can call it that), so the timing was right.

 

[Creamer]

No. But to order a truck with what you want is virtually impossible. It's all about packages and trim level. I got a good deal on an 08 when GM was going broke. Free Duramax and Allison. Cash deal. My Dakota had been written off in an accident, no fault of my own and the settlement was a good starting point. I always wanted a Diesel (if you can call it that), so the timing was right.

Did you say you bought a product from a company that was going broke and then you are complaining about the quality? What does that say about your expectations?

 

[Industrial Toys]

I'm not sure that going broke had much to do with the Quality/engineering issues. I could be wrong.

There is enough Flaky technology to go around. My point is, do so few people see it for what it is? Or don't they care?

 

[WilliamBos]

GM and their low riding trucks. I would get high centered on some of the ant hills around here.

I agree! My 11 sits lower to the ground than my 04 did, thats a bad thing with deep snow. I loathe GM's low slung frames.

 

[Industrial Toys]

Really? It's the first time I ever heard this. But many of these (stock) trucks do look like they are destined for the ghetto. Low profile chrome wheels and all.

 

[Creamer]

I agree! My 11 sits lower to the ground than my 04 did, thats a bad thing with deep snow. I loathe GM's low slung frames.

It is still way above the axles so how can it be causing a problem?

 

[Snobdds]

Look at that, some SUV's have more ground clearance than their z71 edition has. I have however noticed the newer 2500/3500 gm trucks finally have some height to them, which is good.

 

[4570Man]

I like the current body style better. In any case maybe I can afford one in 2030.

 

[sklunk]

If someone can recommend a cheap transmitter on E-Bay that excites the GM TP sensors, I would appreciate that. I have had the truck since 09 and don't know if I will get another GM so I don't want to invest a lot of money. The tire dealer usually does this for me, when I can't get it to work. I wonder, if frozen moisture freaks these thing up?. I don't know. No one ever seems to consider the long term cost of all this fancy BS.

Just Google "EL-50448". That is the official tool that should work for any GM system since around 2010. They used to be around $80 but now can be found for less around $10.

Also if your truck is that old the sensors may be bad. The batteries in them are only designed to last around 5-7 years then they need to be replaced. Just to be safe I have my TPMS sensors replaced every time I put new tires on (only costs around $60 extra total while the shop is mounting and balancing 4 tires).

 

[buckeyefarmer]

$100 amazon prime, $21 walmart, $12 other places......

 

[Btown]

I agree! My 11 sits lower to the ground than my 04 did, thats a bad thing with deep snow. I loathe GM's low slung frames.

It’s for fuel economy, the lower it is the better the fuel economy.

 

[Btown]

Look at that, some SUV's have more ground clearance than their z71 edition has. I have however noticed the newer 2500/3500 gm trucks finally have some height to them, which is good.

2500/3500 don’t have to meet fuel economy standards so they are higher. 1500’s do so low to the ground.

 

[Soldier415]

Gross. Looks like an overgrown Colorado

 

[s219]

The current generation actually has quite a bit of real ground clearance if you get a 4x4, and can increase further with various packages. Here's a shot of my 2014:

The abnormal low spot is the air dam in front, which is easily removed if you want to gain another 4-5" at the chin (at the expense of gas mileage of course). I left mine on because I do a lot of highway driving and like getting 22-23mpg in such a large truck, but would definitely take it off if that weren't the case. It's ugly, out of place, and would be a major liability for offload use. I've even scraped it on parking curbs.

 

[KennyG]

No one "made you" buy all those options...

I bought a Chevy truck without all that crapola... I saved a LOT of money not getting all of those options...

SR

As I understand, you can't buy a vehicle in the US now without TPMS - federal requirements as of 2008 model year. In the near future expect the same for anti-lock, traction control, blind spot monitors, etc. All good things in my opinion but you probably won't have a choice thanks to Federal regulations.

 

[The Fred]

As I understand, you can't buy a vehicle in the US now without TPMS - federal requirements as of 2008 model year. In the near future expect the same for anti-lock, traction control, blind spot monitors, etc. All good things in my opinion but you probably won't have a choice thanks to Federal regulations.

Many auto manufacturers are going away from TPMS sensors in lieu of the anti-lock brake computer doing a similar function. VW, Audi, Honda have done away with the sensors already. Also the TPMS sensors are much cheaper than they were back when they first came out.

The bad thing is any new vehicle being made is garbage, gone are the days when one could buy a rig and have it 20 years. I can't find some dealer parts for numerous vehicles over 10 years old.

In Europe some cities are banning the internal combustion engine soon so things are going electric quite quickly.

Last week I had 2 used cars delivered from the south and the trucker had a 2017 Ram Cummins that he bought 4 months ago and had 60K miles already. He said in that short time the DEF tank was bad and some other small issues. He said the 2016 Ram he traded needed a rear diff at 60K and the trans was slipping by 90K.

I constantly see BMW, Audi engines bad before 90K from bad timing chains and issues not cared about by the OEM manufacturers.

Wake up folks this new stuff is garbage.

Whatever vehicle you choose make a plan to be out of it in 5 years!

Good luck, Fred

 

[jerrybob]

Gonna keep my 2003 2500HD crewcab 4x4 6.0 vortec w/4.10 rear end. Mileage sucks but it pulls a lot of heavy stuff. Only 140K on it.....still new and looks good.

 

[Piston]

A lot of people talking about ground clearance. What do you guys use your trucks for that need all that ground clearance? Are you going off-road with them or just on worksites or logging roads etc?

I think a lot more guys on here would actually use some ground clearance, however I think a lot of people are just lifting they’re trucks for the “looks”.

 

[4570Man]

I drive my truck off road ( not mud holes ) a fair amount. And I like being able to drive over a 6x6 block or a piece of firewood. And not dragging the front of my truck on parking blocks.

 

[Snobdds]

A lot of people talking about ground clearance. What do you guys use your trucks for that need all that ground clearance? Are you going off-road with them or just on worksites or logging roads etc?

I think a lot more guys on here would actually use some ground clearance, however I think a lot of people are just lifting they’re trucks for the “looks”.

I use my trucks to go to a cabin high in the snowy range mountains. The roads are not Forrest service maintained, therefore lots of rocks and ruts. I need ground clearance to avoid dragging the undercarriage over rocks.

I hate lifting a truck, it changes the geometry of the steering and suspension, thus limiting capacity. I want an OEM that has the height so I don't have to worry about things.