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   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #81  
I have a new procedure now for "Breaking In" my 2320. The manual states that to start you have to put the throttle between 1/2 and 3/4. If I start with 1/2 throttle it is noisy and smokey. I used to start on idle, less noisy and smokey. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks

VP
 
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#82  
I have a new procedure now for "Breaking In" my 2320. The manual states that to start you have to put the throttle between 1/2 and 3/4. If I start with 1/2 throttle it is noisy and smokey. I used to start on idle, less noisy and smokey. Any thoughts on this?
Thanks

VP

What year is your 2320 and does it specified only for the ''breaking in'' period?
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #83  
What year is your 2320 and does it specified only for the ''breaking in'' period?

It was built in September 2011. The manual says nothing about a break in period whatsoever. That apparently is the normal starting procedure. Confusing isnt it?

VP
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #84  
I have always started engines at idle.
No sense roaring the engine when it first starts before it has oil pressure built up IMO.
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #85  
I have always started engines at idle.
No sense roaring the engine when it first starts before it has oil pressure built up IMO.

My instinct also, but yet the manual tells me otherwise!:confused2:

VP
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #86  
I start ours at idle and have since 2008.
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #87  
Henri88,

This repair process may take some time, I would check on a loaner tractor for your snow work before it gets bad. I wouldn't expect this to take less than three weeks to complete.

Good luck with the repairs and hope it all works out for you.


Henri,
Looks like it was three weeks + 1 day, looks like my estimate was on target.:) Glad you have your tractor back.:thumbsup:
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #88  
My instinct also, but yet the manual tells me otherwise!:confused2:

VP

As does the manuals I've had for my (all Deere) 670, 790 and 4400.
The actual verbiage is to push the hand throttle wide open.
However, I never did this...start with the throttle at low idle and as soon as the oil light goes out, increase to about 1500 RPM.
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #89  
As does the manuals I've had for my (all Deere) 670, 790 and 4400.
The actual verbiage is to push the hand throttle wide open.
However, I never did this...start with the throttle at low idle and as soon as the oil light goes out, increase to about 1500 RPM.

Hi
That is strange they would tell us to do that, what are they thinking? I will continue doing the same as usual with the exception of keeping it at idle.
Thanks

VP
 
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Henri,
Looks like it was three weeks + 1 day, looks like my estimate was on target.:) Glad you have your tractor back.:thumbsup:

It was at the dealer for a little over one month, but you were right on the button when you said 3 weeks from the moment you post it. :drink:
 
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It's finally home! So they did put a ''short block'' in it, new water pump, glow plugs, and had the head and injectors check. Had it on the dyno for 45 min. tested at 21 pto hp, give or take a few since it is not completely accurate for small engine. They had the tech guy from JD (he was passing through) to look at it and he couldn't figure out what could've cause it. I guess will never find out. So, now its home, got the cab and the blower on and it is working great. I never realize that I was lacking power, but now, I do see a difference and the engine noise is also different. This is going to be a great Christmas after all. :drink: Pics from my dealer and the engine. Thanks everyone and Merry Christmas! Henri
 

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   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #92  
Good Christmas present to you Henri!
Did they advise you on how to run the engine?
 
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Good Christmas present to you Henri!
Did they advise you on how to run the engine?

Yep! Work it hard, don't baby it and put fuel conditioner every second fill-up. :thumbsup:
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #94  
Yep! Work it hard, don't baby it and put fuel conditioner every second fill-up. :thumbsup:

Glad to hear your all set, I put fuel conditioner every tank full in the winter, did they say why every other?

VP
 
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Glad to hear your all set, I put fuel conditioner every tank full in the winter, did they say why every other?

VP
Mostly to keep the injector clean, since my tractor sleep inside a heated garage there is not much risk of gelling fuel.
 
   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #96  
Hiya,

Glad to hear your back up and running I agree, don't baby it because the run on the dyno has pretty much run it in. To get a HP reading it was run at full load.

Since you live in the north, I would use anti gel every tank. Anti-gel can be used year round, it won't affect the fuel in the warmer months. I buy my off road Diesel in bulk so my fuel always has conditioner/anti gel because one bulk load lasts me a little over a full year. (The road trucks get fuel while they are out so we add conditioner/anti gel as needed)

What you should be aware of, is that while the risk of "gelling" is as your dealer states, pretty low, if your operating it in temps below freezing you may "cloud" the fuel without enough anti gel. Clouding the fuel is the first stage of gelling and it's actually the stage that causes the most problems. Clouding is when the paraffin in suspension congeals to the point where it becomes visible making the fuel opaque. When this happens, the filters trap the now solid paraffin plugging the small passages that the fuel normally passes through. at this point the engine will lose power and most likely smoke white but idle fine. The fuel pump will now try to pull fuel through the filter and it will eventually draw enough of a siphon that the paraffin will pack down in the filters as wax. Once a filter is plugged, the engine will shut off. Spin on filters will now need to be replaced as the wax will bond to the filter media fibers, cartridge filters depending on media type can be cleaned and the fuel in the tank/lines will need to be treated with a "Diesel rescue" type product specifically made for dissolving solid paraffin as anti-gel does not suspend paraffin, it only prevents it from falling out of suspension as temps fall.

OK, enough typing, there is more eggnog to drink...

Tom

Afterthought, if ULSD is mandated in your area, you will have to add a higher percentage of anti-gel as ULSD clouds at higher temps compared to LSD or the good old unregulated s5000.
I know I may get flamed for this but if you add Wal Mart 2 stroke outboard motor oil at 180-1 ratio to your Diesel, you will get a bit more power and lower your fuel per hour rate. (It's an over the road trucker trick to squeak more miles out of a tank on the older rigs, works on older Diesel pickups without converters as well)
 
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   / 2305 engine needs to be rebuilt #98  
Glad that you're all squared away Henri!:thumbsup:

Greg
 

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