$3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled.

[schoolsout]

This will kill allot of guys like me that are self employed and rely on Diesel power to haul equipment, especially since I am locked mostly in contract work.

I have heard little out of DC, so I think it's safe to assume what I've heard as true, that the "one" in charge is all for higher prices.

Stop and really crush your brain, see all the ramifications for a sudden rise in oil to the heights that are predicted. Tonight on the news they said there has already begone a rapid drop in fuel purchased by Americans and smaller amount bought when purchased. Wont be long and we will have some major decisions to make in our personal spending.

What will happen to this economy will be a self inflicted wound.

I will sure be at the polls in 2012, IF I CAN AFFORD THE FUEL TO GET THERE!!!

Republican or Democrat, the same would be occurring.

The printing of money by the Fed/Treasury complex to bail out banks, and other "important" entities, that abused the system, made horrible bets and should have failed is the main driver behind the rise in prices such as energy and other commodities.

Again, I will repeat...you ain't seen nothing yet. They are still going to print money. The debt will continue to go higher...

Severe inflation is on the way....meanwhile, wages will remain stagnant, at best.


Notice the correlation between Money Supply (Fed/Treas. doing the bailing out of banks, Warren Buffet, pensions, GE, blah, blah blah) and the commodity index

 

[Rob-D]

I will sure be at the polls in 2012, IF I CAN AFFORD THE FUEL TO GET THERE!!!

OK, I've said this before but I think it's worth repeating. If you're waiting on this or any government, for your well being than you have a very long wait!


As far as oil, I'll be just about oil free by the end of the year. Geothermal, solar, microhydro and wind. Sure it took me a few years to get here and I know what I'm doing with energy, but we all saw this coming well before Katrina hit LA.

Sorry guys, it's time to wake up, you're b*tching about what the government's not doing when it's you who's not doing.


Rob

"It's not possible to solve a problem with the same thinking that created it."
Albert Einstein

Edited to comply with no political..... It was a painful edit!

 

[Transit]

And gas prices are 52 cents in Libya.

 

[Western]

I guess horses are the answer for everyone,

It is delusional to think every one can go Green or whatever, but again, I didn't have a nuke shelter years ago either.

 

[dcyrilc]

I guess horses are the answer for everyone,

It is delusional to think every one can go Green or whatever, but again, I didn't have a nuke shelter years ago either.

Not everyone......

...I've threatened to hitch up the cattle and use them for alternative transportation to get to work. I usually get ignored rather than answered when I ask where I can stable them.

 

[Rob-D]

It is delusional to think every one can go Green or whatever, but again, I didn't have a nuke shelter years ago either.

What's delusional is the thinking that we can keep buying oil from people who want to bomb us or did some of us miss 911?

What's delusional is driving around in a pickup truck with tandem tires on the back and American flags hanging out the windows.

Conservation is patriotic and it's the only avenue to reducing the strangle hold on this country.

The gov. gives us 30% back on alternate energy installations. With my 20k grant from my utility I'll have no out of pocket cost. In a couple of years when oil is at 5 or 10 bucks a barrel I won't care.

But what's your solution?

 

[bigbull338]

What's delusional is the thinking that we can keep buying oil from people who want to bomb us or did some of us miss 911?

What's delusional is driving around in a pickup truck with tandem tires on the back and American flags hanging out the windows.

Conservation is patriotic and it's the only avenue to reducing the strangle hold on this country.

The gov. gives us 30% back on alternate energy installations. With my 20k grant from my utility I'll have no out of pocket cost. In a couple of years when oil is at 5 or 10 bucks a barrel I won't care.

But what's your solution?

are you trying to really open a bad can of worms.the people that drive 1 ton dually do so for the pulling power not the fuel milage.every1 knows your lucky if you get 12 to 15mi to a gal.if your lucky some diesels will get 15 to 20mi to a gal depending on how their driven.

 

[Rob-D]

are you trying to really open a bad can of worms.the people that drive 1 ton dually do so for the pulling power not the fuel milage.every1 knows your lucky if you get 12 to 15mi to a gal.if your lucky some diesels will get 15 to 20mi to a gal depending on how their driven.

Not around here. Half the people who drive them are kids with fake dual stacks trying to impress their friends.

The point I'm making is that conservation is the avenue we should be taking, not going to the store to get a quart of milk in something that gets 8 mpg.

I've watched time and time again one person come out of a food store and get in a gas guzzler SUV with a couple of items. That's what I think has to change. It's how we see energy, the blanket policy that it's endless and I can afford to buy a gas guzzler so I will has to come to an end.

This thread is about the cost of fuel. Well this country runs on oil. People aren't being creative and thinking about alternate ways to do things. I thought years ago, do I want to get into a business that straps me to fluctuating oil prices? Heck no!

We have trains that get several hundred mpgs. Why isn't there a big push to bring back the trains that Hoffa killed? It's because we have these monstrous things called lobbies and lobbies are big business. Big business doesn't want you to stop using oil and it doesn't want to stop the insanity of trucks driving back and forth across this country.

Look what the Europeans are doing, did they give up trains? No. They drive cars that sip fuel, 1.2 L turbo diesels that get 90 mpg. Where are those cars here? We drive hybrids? Hybrids are complex expensive cars that the dealers love to sell just like the SUVs that go for 40 and 50k.

We're dumb as stone, we complain about fuel prices and expect someone else to fix it. Get a mirror, that's the guy who has to fix it.

I like the idea of the guy with horses, hey bring them back if they help keep terrorists out. It's called creative thinking and we used to do that in this country, now we're just a bunch of lump butts expecting someone else to resolve our problems. Good luck, Katrina should have been a wake up call but it wasn't.

Rob

 

[204saskman]

You guys think that 3.57/gal is bad, move to canada, were at 4.69/gal. And our dollar is at 1.04 US. Who do you think is getting screwed here? We pay way more for everything up here from fuel to housing. Trust me, i would rather pay 3.57/gal than 4.69/gal.

 

[RollingsFarms]

there's an older guy that lives near me who's only means of transportation is a team of mules hitched to a wagon. he has lights on the wagon and everything making it road legal(like what the Amish people drive). he's not Amish from what i know though. he makes one trip to the grocery store per month and i've passed him in the road several times. those mules are very well trained for passing traffic!