$3.37 Gas & $3.58 Diesel - Thrilled.

[TripleR]

What happened to this country? What happened to the ingenuity that built it? Tough guys like Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman who got up and said what they thought? Edison, George Westinghouse who built the electrical grid and Henry Ford who put people to work.
We've turned into a bunch of cry babies.

All you can drive is a gas guzzler?

OK, now you know gas isn't going to go down, the government isn't going to help and you either make it or sink on your ability and ingenuity. This is a given, we already know what's taking place.

What are you going to do? Fix up a cheap car to use everyday, get together with your neighbors so each of you only have to go into town once a month?

Because if you don't have an answer, a plan you're sunk. You've had years to figure it out, to change your thinking but you're still driving the gas guzzle and saying 'I can't do anything'.

Who do you think is going to fix it for you? I'm all ears.

What I'm being too tough? I asked myself those questions that's why I'm not in that box. If I can do it so can everyone else.

Rob

Calm down, as I stated in an earlier post, I am not complaining, just stating a fact. When I was younger I drove VW's and all manner of economical modes of transportation including motorcycles, bicycles and walking/running.

I am now disabled and unable to walk any distance, so getting stuck in a field somewhere unable to get back to the house really is not a viable option.

Farmers must use fairly big trucks to haul stuff or pull trailers as small ones though tried for a while, just are not practical.

 

[77bronco]

Here in the northern part of the Peoples Republic of Calif., gas is $4.15 for regular, and $4.45 for diesel.

 

[crash325]

What happened to this country? What happened to the ingenuity that built it? Tough guys like Teddy Roosevelt and Harry Truman who got up and said what they thought? Edison, George Westinghouse who built the electrical grid and Henry Ford who put people to work.
We've turned into a bunch of cry babies.

All you can drive is a gas guzzler?

OK, now you know gas isn't going to go down, the government isn't going to help and you either make it or sink on your ability and ingenuity. This is a given, we already know what's taking place.

What are you going to do? Fix up a cheap car to use everyday, get together with your neighbors so each of you only have to go into town once a month?

Because if you don't have an answer, a plan you're sunk. You've had years to figure it out, to change your thinking but you're still driving the gas guzzle and saying 'I can't do anything'.

Who do you think is going to fix it for you? I'm all ears.

What I'm being too tough? I asked myself those questions that's why I'm not in that box. If I can do it so can everyone else.

Rob

I',m just another "Cry Baby'" But I am sure you know how to fix it FOR ME. With all your vast knowledge. Don't think you even need to know what my or anyone else circumstances are. Let me hear YOUR Solution. Maybe you are going to give me the money to buy a nice fuel efficient car. Plans often don't work out and it will be fun to hear you CRY when some of yours go to H3LL :smiley_aafz:

 

[Rob-D]

Calm down, as I stated in an earlier post, I am not complaining, just stating a fact. When I was younger I drove VW's and all manner of economical modes of transportation including motorcycles, bicycles and walking/running.

I am now disabled and unable to walk any distance, so getting stuck in a field somewhere unable to get back to the house really is not a viable option.

Farmers must use fairly big trucks to haul stuff or pull trailers as small ones though tried for a while, just are not practical.

I am calm, remember I'm the one who's not at the mercy of the government and big business.

As far as being in a position etc, etc. I was building my own windmills and figuring how to tap my stream when the government wasn't giving a penny.

Let me give you some perspective. Back in 1983 I needed periodontal surgery. The dentist was sticking a scalpel in my mouth and every time he needed to cut in a different plane he had to change the instrument. I said," Gee that must be a pain doing that all day?" He replied, "People have been trying to come up with a universal instrument for years but they can't get it right." I said, "Really?"
Three weeks later when I went back to get the other side of my mouth done I handed him an instrument to do it. That's right, he operated on me with my own invention. Six months later I had a patent. I made the prototype in a closet in my apartment where I had a 10" Austrian lathe and mini machine shop. I'm pretty sure no one else had a lathe in my building!
That's called thinking outside the box and everyone has the ability to do it, they just don't.

It's the guppy effect. Someone spreads a little food on one side of the tank and all the guppies rush over to get it. That's how we live in this country, not too many people really think, too bad.

Some of you might think, "Gee, I can't do anything like that!" Sorry, you can!
I'll bet you guys know something I don't know? I'll bet everyone knows who won the Super Bowl. Not only don't I know who won, I don't even know who played! I have zero interest in some gagoots who can't complete a sentence and just got done pumping steroids into his arm running down a field with a ball in his hand and a bunch of other gagootes chasing him. He's doing me absolutely no good what so ever and knowing how fast, or how far, he can run holds no interest for me. Zero point zero.
BUT if you ask me what the Bett's Factor is or what the mean wind velocity of my front field is, I know that. If you ask me why chlorinated hydrocarbons are cumulative as we move up the food chain and what food to aviod, I know that. Why? Because those things affect my life and the lives of my loved ones. That's why I'm off the grid, not because the government is giving me 30% because if the government didn't give a cent I'd still be off the grid.

Rob

 

[crazyal]

Calm down, as I stated in an earlier post, I am not complaining, just stating a fact. When I was younger I drove VW's and all manner of economical modes of transportation including motorcycles, bicycles and walking/running.

I am now disabled and unable to walk any distance, so getting stuck in a field somewhere unable to get back to the house really is not a viable option.

Farmers must use fairly big trucks to haul stuff or pull trailers as small ones though tried for a while, just are not practical.

I have an old international 4wd S/A dump truck. It looks like the old school buses. It's got an 446 in it and when loaded I bet it gets 2 or 3 miles per gallon. I see plenty of farmers around here who have trucks like them they use for bringing crops in from the fields. I only use mine as a backup for plowing the driveway so it doesn't use much fuel. But I feel for the farmers as a new truck goes for big money and even old used diesels sell for lots.

I just don't think everyone understands that a hybrid is great for commuting to work but when you need a truck for hauling you need power. Most people can't afford to have a truck for when it's needed, a car for traveling and a small economy car for just driving into the office.

 

[two_bit_score]

Obama squandered a wonderful opportunity when he came into office. He could have used a lot of the 'stimulus' money to convert fleet vehicles over to CNG. Just think of all the real jobs that would have created in industry,manufacturing and transportation. Plus, we would be developing a REAL alternative to gasoline and diesel as a transportation fuel.

CNG is the way to go as an alternative transportation fuel.

Every car, truck and tractor in America can be operated on CNG and it's readily available on almost every street in the country thanks to a wide network of pipelines already in place.

CNG is clean, abundant and domestic.

 

[Rob-D]

I',m just another "Cry Baby'" But I am sure you know how to fix it FOR ME. With all your vast knowledge. Don't think you even need to know what my or anyone else circumstances are. Let me hear YOUR Solution. Maybe you are going to give me the money to buy a nice fuel efficient car. Plans often don't work out and it will be fun to hear you CRY when some of yours go to H3LL :smiley_aafz:

First, Everyone falls on their face and I'm no exception but don't expect me to cry about it, I've never done that my whole life and I've taken some big falls!
As far as figuring out your problems that's your job not mine and that's not what I'm talking about here.
Secondly, everyone has handicaps including me, that's what I tell the kids constantly. It's how you overcome your handicaps that defines you.

What is intelligence?
Intelligence is the ability to constructively resolve one's problems. If you can do Laplace Transforms in your head but you trip over your feet every morning on the way to work because you can't tie your shoes than you're not intelligent.

So maybe you should think about what it means to resolve your problems because no one can do that for you.

What I'm trying to do here is let people see that there are ways to resolve the oil crunch but it's their responsibility to resolve that with what they have to work with. Carping about it won't help.

Rob

 

[Rob-D]

Obama squandered a wonderful opportunity when he came into office. He could have used a lot of the 'stimulus' money to convert fleet vehicles over to CNG. Just think of all the real jobs that would have created in industry,manufacturing and transportation. Plus, we would be developing a REAL alternative to gasoline and diesel as a transportation fuel.

CNG is the way to go as an alternative transportation fuel.

Every car, truck and tractor in America can be operated on CNG and it's readily available on almost every street in the country thanks to a wide network of pipelines already in place.

CNG is clean, abundant and domestic.

Yes, but doesn't that involve fracturing which is an environmental nightmare?

 

[Localmotion]

Where I am (Spain), I just paid 1.03€ per litre (approx $6.75 per gallon) for a can of red (rebated) diesel. Normally I buy in bulk, but even that is 0.97€ /litre for 1000L at the moment - potentially crippling for a small business like our own.

I've set up another thread here as it would be interesting to see the differences in operating costs amongst TBN users....

Please post any ideas / thoughts regarding operating costs and what can be done to reduce them (short of harnessing the donkeys back up that is!) :laughing:

 

[Scotty370]

Rob-D Natural Gas is by far the most environmentally friendly alternative in the fossil fuel game. In full disclosure, yes! that's my game! (See profile). 'Gas-Land' trashed a lot of, what could have been a significant financial benefit for the residents, and the gas field workers, along with reducing our dependence on foreign oil. This "Just say No", or "Nimby" attitude has got to reach a moderate compromise, or we're just 'tightining the hand-cuffs' on our own energy independence. The statements made are solely mine as a home contributor, and are not to be attributed to my employer. ~"Scotty"

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