3000-4000 series loader operation

[Willl]

Of course it's going to slow down, your trying to fill 2X the cylinders at the same time.

 

[pbt_sisson]

THANK YOU JOMO....
Please don't respond to TRUE BLENDING" unless you have several hundred hours operating these things.
I think the os tractors and the cab tractors have the same loader valves. I sat on all of them.20+models. both cab and os. These new ones don't blend. And don't tell me the hydraulics will slow to a crawl because you are filling 2 cylinders......Go sit on any kubota, from the harry homeowner to the 100+hp machines. They all blend at true speed.
I would like to see a you tube video or something of NURU's new cab tractor blending. It would make a beleiver out of me and all the salesmen,owners,and mechanics at 3 different va dealers.

 

[Willl]

And don't tell me

BS, if your going to blend, it's gota fill twice as much as single action. Basic mechanics.

 

[JasonMac]

Hmmmm...... Like I've said many times before, mine blends! And when it blends it is smooth as silk!.... you would swear when I operate my loader that it was a Hydro Self-Leveling Loader... You just get very good at it after using them for so long. So I don't know... I guess I'll have to figure out how to put a video of it on youtube, so you can believe me.... sure it does slow down a hair, and when I say a hair, I mean very little... but it isn't jerky fast like I see other operators use their loaders....(including the operator on the JD Cab Tractor Promo Video -- you can just tell this guy is a novice at using a loader) that is actually a very bad video... loader looks jerky...but really it isn't if you learn to use it right....

 

[nmu98]

Well I have a 2008 3520 with Deluxe CAB, mid-PTO, rear SCV, and blending apparently works well. I do not have Power beyond, nor an electonic diverter (Well I don't think I have this?). I would imagine that it works on the 3720 Cab tractor too.

Sorry Bro, I did not mean to offend you. I was rather trying to defend you as I beleive your statement since I have had a cab tractor do it on the lot.

 

[Nuru]

Oh, No, I was not offended by anything on the thread at all, I am just perplexed that the feature is not easy to use universally? That boggles the mind of me and some of the local dealers i have asked about it?

 

[Spudland_Dave]

Having driven tractors from 15-200 horse for the better part of my life and even an old Hough Payloader I'll say that my 3520 Standard Cab blends with no issues. Its no different then my my neighbors 3240....
Looking at JD Parts, Cabbed vs Non Cabbed have different Valve Banks:
Non-Cab: LVA15441
Cabbed: LVA15442
Like I said before...I noticed the difference after 3 minutes testing out tractors on dealer lots before I purchased...

 

[Nuru]

Having driven tractors from 15-200 horse for the better part of my life and even an old Hough Payloader I'll say that my 3520 Standard Cab blends with no issues. Its no different then my my neighbors 3240....
Looking at JD Parts, Cabbed vs Non Cabbed have different Valve Banks:
Non-Cab: LVA15441
Cabbed: LVA15442
Like I said before...I noticed the difference after 3 minutes testing out tractors on dealer lots before I purchased...

Thanks Dave, I am gonna ask a couple dealers locally about this too. Cause I wonder what is going on with the difference between the two types of units. According to my tractor if you pull up on that stick, it allows you to perform the simultaneous operation of both and at 2000 rpm the movements are smooth and quick, if it slows down it is not much at all, it does not slow down to a crawl or at least that is what I remember.

 

[pbt_sisson]

Dave Spudland:
Thanks for the part #s. I will check on these. But all of the 20+ machines I have operated in VA have been cab models, and THEY DON"T BLEND>

Is it possible that JD put a cheaper open station loader valve on these cab units? Does the first loader valve part # not blend, and does the second part # blend? Are they interchangeable?

I have been trying to resolve this issue for weeks. I too have run equipment for years and know how this 300cx or 400x loader should work. The ones I have used don't, and the dealers are no help. THey say" it is what it is."

What does that mean???? JD can't build a cut loader that does multifunctions in real time(not slowing to a crawl)?? Or they want to use cheap inferior parts to shortcut this operation??? WHich one is it?

I am willing to pay extra for this capability!!!! Maybe Dave, or NURU, I need to visit one of the dealers in your state. I just don't understand how the cuts at your states dealers will blend and the ones in VA won't.

 

[Nuru]

Dave Spudland:
Thanks for the part #s. I will check on these. But all of the 20+ machines I have operated in VA have been cab models, and THEY DON"T BLEND>

Is it possible that JD put a cheaper open station loader valve on these cab units? Does the first loader valve part # not blend, and does the second part # blend? Are they interchangeable?

I have been trying to resolve this issue for weeks. I too have run equipment for years and know how this 300cx or 400x loader should work. The ones I have used don't, and the dealers are no help. THey say" it is what it is."

What does that mean???? JD can't build a cut loader that does multifunctions in real time(not slowing to a crawl)?? Or they want to use cheap inferior parts to shortcut this operation??? WHich one is it?

I am willing to pay extra for this capability!!!! Maybe Dave, or NURU, I need to visit one of the dealers in your state. I just don't understand how the cuts at your states dealers will blend and the ones in VA won't.

A quick question or three:

• What RPM were you running when you tried it?
• Was it a deluxe cab or regular cab?
• Did it have the rear SCVs?

I spoke with Dealers I dealt with in the past in VA, and MA today and they indicated that, as per the Deere Literature the 300 series loaders and the 400 series loader do perform standard bucket/loader boom simultaneous operation. I asked them to find the instructions for this and to send them to me. when/If I get them, I will submit them to this thread. One of the dealers i called today indicated that there is a technique to get the unit into "Regen" mode and when it in that mode it wil blend is what I was told, and I was told that you can stumble into that mode? (Seems possible as that is what I did and dumped the bucket on the way up and cut-up some bushes on the way down). I also plan to call some other dealers in PA, CT, and MD. Also my unit was not on the lot, it was straight from the Deere Factory. Dunno if that means anything?

however don't get frustrated, as we will all figure it out soon. Hopefully those dealers help figure this one out.