3rd function valve pricing

   / 3rd function valve pricing #21  
Mahindra dealer charged me about 1400 as I recall. Probably on the high side but they do a lot of them at that dealer and they know what they are doing.

thanks, Billy

The dealer is not on the high side, it is Mahindra. I added my two remotes from Surplus Center parts to my 3616 because the Mahindra ones would have been about $2000. Two dealers that I talked weren't even sure how to order parts for the second remote. The expense of Mahindra remotes and 3rd function new tractor options and the limit of two remotes on the models that I was considering was a factor in my decision to go with a Kioti NX for my cab tractor upgrade.
 
   / 3rd function valve pricing #22  
Does the Kioti 3rd function kit include hardliners on the loader? In fact, what does the kit include? Does it come with installation instructions?
I have a new NX6010 and thinking about adding this to my loader.
 
   / 3rd function valve pricing #23  
Does the Kioti 3rd function kit include hardliners on the loader? In fact, what does the kit include? Does it come with installation instructions?
I have a new NX6010 and thinking about adding this to my loader.

I made my own kit for my NX and purposely made it look as if it was factory kit. Since Kioti did not have a factory kit at the time, I called Kioti hoping to offer it to them and never heard a peep back. Since we make so many other things, I dropped the idea, but my kit has hard lines on the loader among other improvements. The thing I would change in my NX if it ever crapped out is switching to a piloted loader valve so that curl and lift could be done smoothly at the same time as with a wheel loader and track or skid steer. Here is what was mounted onto the loader minus my mounting bracket for holding the additional two quick disconnects so that when the loader was dropped the hydraulic lines also were dropped.

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   / 3rd function valve pricing #24  
Does the Kioti 3rd function kit include hardliners on the loader? In fact, what does the kit include? Does it come with installation instructions?
I have a new NX6010 and thinking about adding this to my loader.

A buddy's new DK5310SE HST cab has the Kioti 3rd function kit, installed by the dealer. No hardlines were used, so I doubt they are even available as part of the kit. Continuous hoses were used, running along the boom arm from the 3rd function valve quick connects to the FEL-end quick connects.

I don't know all that comes with the kit. You'll probably have to call your dealer for the details, as I haven't seen anything online or in a brochure yet. At the least, though, it includes: (1) The Joystick replacement knob, with two selector buttons for your index and third fingers, rather than a toggle switch for your thumb as used in the W.R. Long kit, (2) the 3rd function valve itself and mounting hardware, (3) the necessary hoses, (4) the bulkhead bracket for mounting the quick connect ends of the hoses at the torque tube, (5) Poppet-style quick connectors, (6) the necessary hydraulic fitting(s) to connect into the power beyond line.

Hope this helps.

BTW, Minnesota Eric's setup looks very nice. As does all his custom work on his NX6010HST cab, from what I've seen on TBN over the years. :thumbsup: Maybe he'd be willing to put one together for you, good guy that he is. :)
 
   / 3rd function valve pricing #25  
BTW, Minnesota Eric's setup looks very nice. As does all his custom work on his NX6010HST cab, from what I've seen on TBN over the years. :thumbsup: Maybe he'd be willing to put one together for you, good guy that he is. :)

Any number of people have asked me but sadly, it isn't worth our time unless ordered in bulk because all the hoses were custom length and there are a total of eight of them, not counting the two hard lines, and the custom wiring loom with weather pack connectors (although today I'd use Deutsch Terminals) and wrapped entirely in 3M Super 33+, Eaton electric over hydro servo, Demond D02 open center plate, the John Deere handle (use one out of an E-series tractor as it fits right on with a hole drilled through the stock joystick).

The easiest way to jig the EOM joystick to drill a hole for the John Deere control without trying to explain how to take a joystick apart.

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I mounted my servo right atop the transmission, this has turned out to be a very good place for it. Here is the simple mounting plate with two tapped holes for the open center block (accidentally mounted upside down in the photo).

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Here is the DO2 open center block. P goes back to the power beyond port on the joystick valve, T to the three-point, and A and B to the loader.

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Here you see the T (Tank) hose with anti-chaffing sock going to the three-point which also serves as the T tank.

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And here is what it looked like back in 2018 when I tried (unsuccessfully) to wedge in a $1200 Sears suspension seat (not enough headroom, not even for a fabricator). The electrical connectors on the valve each feature a red LED when powered to quickly help diagnose electrical power loss issues at the valve. More importantly, notice that this photo shows the hydraulic wiring diagram you need for this tractor and this is true for any brand of valve. I taught myself how to read hydraulics (not hard, but annoying that nobody wanted to really just share the actual diagram needed for an open center system at the time) to design this.

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I used solid-state relays to trigger from the joystick to the electric over hydro valve and mounted them over the body computer (other unrelated stuff is also going on in this photo)

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Down on the loader, the A and B ports got there own little bracket (this would have been the only drilling for the kit except for one hole on the stock joystick to fit the John Deere loader control handle) and featured quick disconnects so the loader could be removed while preserving third function use on the tractor.

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Out on the loader, here you see the A and B hard lines. Off-camera the hard lines are connected to properly-fitted soft lines, each with their own protective sock and male quick disconnects. The attachment quick disconnects were not attached at this time as I was going to leave the style up to the customer.

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Here you see the John Deere loader handle which is much more comfortable than the stock loader handle (believe it or not I purchased four different loader handles and had a shootout to determine which was best suited for this application, the JD handle won).

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Not to mention the expertly crafted wiring harness. Mine is better made than the OEM harness and more resistant to weather and critter attacks.

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After some field testing, I realized the hoses routed over the primary hydo filter needed a hose loom (which would have meant only three custom brackets only two of which needed secondary process to fixture--one taping the other making one bend on a break).

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Anyway, you can see that the kit I envisioned was way, way better than any generic kit and also would have been way more expensive unless ordered in bulk. Too bad Kioti didn't answer the phone. At the time, my dealer wanted one of these on every tractor he had on the lot.
 
   / 3rd function valve pricing #26  
My local dealer is quoting me $895 plus tax installed for my ck3510se . Does this sound about right?

My dealer charged $850 for a 3rd function valve and installation on the new rx7320 I recently bought.
They did a nice job installing it, but the operation of the root grapple I got the valve for seems a little jerky, especially at higher RPMs. Maybe the tractor wasn't warmed up enough (I've had the tractor for only a couple days and haven't been able to use it much yet). Or maybe I need to feather the controls even more (will try that).
My guess is that, in general, you'll pay more to install a 3rd function on a tractor you already own than on one you are buying.
 
   / 3rd function valve pricing #27  
My dealer charged $850 for a 3rd function valve and installation on the new rx7320 I recently bought.
They did a nice job installing it, but the operation of the root grapple I got the valve for seems a little jerky, especially at higher RPMs. Maybe the tractor wasn't warmed up enough (I've had the tractor for only a couple days and haven't been able to use it much yet). Or maybe I need to feather the controls even more (will try that).
My guess is that, in general, you'll pay more to install a 3rd function on a tractor you already own than on one you are buying.

The valves are not piloted so the hydro power (P) goes to the spool most open leading to jerkiness.
 

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