rockyridgefarm
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Yup, without lights on the loader, there is almost always a spot where there are shadows...
4020 Series Specs
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rockyridgefarm
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BTW, thanks Robert for posting these great pics. I love the TN and yours looks great in your sig pic!
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timb
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Mike - Yep, according to the spec sheet I got from the dealer - they all appear to use the exact same engine - same size, *all* are turbo, and same rating RPMs. There may well be internal differences but Deere is going to have to do a lot of justification to charge a lot more between models if it's only an injection or turbo pressure setting.
Also look close at those brake pedals - it does appear to be a reverser - and there does appear to be a foot throttle barely visible. But note that those are now *bottom* 'hung' pedals - not suspended like on the 10 series. Not sure I like that - it looks like a big reach even for size 12's compared to just the toe tap before. Possibly less foot room as well. Wonder why they did that?
Richard - the spec sheet does say that the 4720 is hydro only - but note that is NOT the replacement for the 4710. It's 4120=4610+, 4320=4710+ (the plus is that these are the closest equivalent in power but the 20 series still have more torque and rise, and the 4510 equivalent doesn't exist). The new 4520 and 4720 are beyond anything the 10 series had. My dealer has earmarked the first 4320 reverser in as mine, that's already more powerful than the 4710 I was trying to find, but I told him to find out the price difference to go to the 4520 as well.
Robert - the engine hp I listed as the 'gross' hp. It does seem as if they are now listing just 1/2 PRO hp loss for the hydro. As usual, that does not reveal the drawbar loss however.
Ole Hickory - it may be that if the whole rearend is truely just a carry forward from the ten series - then the tranny/clutch pack is not up to the torque of the 4720. Which raises a potential question of how reliable these will be compared to the old large frame JD's with the power boosted this much. My gut feel based on the postings on this forum is that the large frame JDs have been considerably more reliable than the mid-sized units. Could be that the mid-sizes just outsell the large frame by that much but there appears to be a lot of 4710 owners here.
Still waiting for more details from my dealer... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Tim
Also look close at those brake pedals - it does appear to be a reverser - and there does appear to be a foot throttle barely visible. But note that those are now *bottom* 'hung' pedals - not suspended like on the 10 series. Not sure I like that - it looks like a big reach even for size 12's compared to just the toe tap before. Possibly less foot room as well. Wonder why they did that?
Richard - the spec sheet does say that the 4720 is hydro only - but note that is NOT the replacement for the 4710. It's 4120=4610+, 4320=4710+ (the plus is that these are the closest equivalent in power but the 20 series still have more torque and rise, and the 4510 equivalent doesn't exist). The new 4520 and 4720 are beyond anything the 10 series had. My dealer has earmarked the first 4320 reverser in as mine, that's already more powerful than the 4710 I was trying to find, but I told him to find out the price difference to go to the 4520 as well.
Robert - the engine hp I listed as the 'gross' hp. It does seem as if they are now listing just 1/2 PRO hp loss for the hydro. As usual, that does not reveal the drawbar loss however.
Ole Hickory - it may be that if the whole rearend is truely just a carry forward from the ten series - then the tranny/clutch pack is not up to the torque of the 4720. Which raises a potential question of how reliable these will be compared to the old large frame JD's with the power boosted this much. My gut feel based on the postings on this forum is that the large frame JDs have been considerably more reliable than the mid-sized units. Could be that the mid-sizes just outsell the large frame by that much but there appears to be a lot of 4710 owners here.
Still waiting for more details from my dealer... /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif
Tim
JayC
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</font><font color="blue" class="small">( the spec sheet does say that the 4720 is hydro only )</font>
Does that mean other 4x20 models aren't going to have a hydro?
Does that mean other 4x20 models aren't going to have a hydro?
rockyridgefarm
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All have Reversers or Hydros EXCEPT the 4720 which is HST only...
JayC
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Ok. When I saw that the 4720 was hydro only, I was thinking that was the only one in the line to have hydro.
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I am just forwarding the pics posted by a fellow toy collector (who post on a few boards as A Healthy Shade of Green) who works for a JD dealer in Canada. He posted all these pics on our Toy Talk board on http://talk.newagtalk.com/forums/ToyTalk/index.html
We get a lot of people in the ag industry that like to collect toy tractors so we usually get info (and especially pictures) quite quick there /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
We get a lot of people in the ag industry that like to collect toy tractors so we usually get info (and especially pictures) quite quick there /forums/images/graemlins/crazy.gif
rockyridgefarm
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amazing...
We have extensive info, photos and specs, but must wait for the July 1st release date to post it. If we were allowed, we'd post it today. /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif So hang tight.
rockyridgefarm
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Muhammad are you GLOATING?!