422 vrs 425

[SnowRidge]

never reached priority status yet.

Remember the 422 advantage: single wheel cylinder means alot better steering, less then a turn of the steering wheel lock-to-lock, so to say.

I have never driven a 422, but I find it difficult to believe that a single steering ram is superior to two rams. For one thing, Power Trac is not given to wasting money by slapping on parts for which there is no demonstrable need.

Dual rams also provide an equal steering response, side to side. I don't think that is the case with a single ram. Also, there is such a thing as steering that is too fast. To me, the 425's steering feels right.

 

[Barryh]

I have never driven a 422, but I find it difficult to believe that a single steering ram is superior to two rams. For one thing, Power Trac is not given to wasting money by slapping on parts for which there is no demonstrable need.

Dual rams also provide an equal steering response, side to side. I don't think that is the case with a single ram. Also, there is such a thing as steering that is too fast. To me, the 425's steering feels right.

I'm sure you are both right. The heavier wheel motors / shafts will last longer and take more abuse but, how long is longer? A year... 5 years? I figure by the time my motors would wear out, I could just upgrade to the heavier duty ones.

As for the dual steering being smoother due to dual rams common sence would say so, but my 180 or should I say the nieghbors 180. As I just drove it over there a few mintures ago, was glass smooth. No jerking and very effortless. It also felt just right. To be fair though, I have not driven a 425.

My guess would be the dual cylinder is stronger, but I can't imagine it being much smoother if any to steer than the single. So the single is not, a non starter in my book just based on how smooth my single was. The 425 is a really nice machine don't get me wrong but, I'm guessing the 422 is no slouch either.

 

[Barryh]

Barry, I agree with you that the 180 is very under estimated for it's abilities. When I purchased my 180 back in 9/04, that's what I could afford at the time. It performed better than I ever expected. As time went on I decided to add the extra hyd. circuit and mini hoe. Again the performance never ceased to amaze me. So why did I sell it??. Well...I need a higher lift HT., stronger wheel motors, and a bigger engine. If I decide to buy another Power-Trac it will be the 2425, but the verdict is still out on that. If you feel that the 422 will fulfill all your needs (present & future ) then you have made the right choice.

Where I no longer own a Power-Trac there is not much that I can contribute to this forum anymore, so I think it's time for me to slowly fade off into the sunset.

No No don't go... You have contributed a heck of a lot to this forum. A lot more than I have. I think it really does come down to ones needs. If you need the extra lift, torque and a little more power than I can see why you would buy the next PT up. Some of us need a little extra for different reasons. For me it just isn't worth an extra 2000. I just needed a few more options, I was basically happy with my 180.

 

[Marks481]

I have never driven a 422, but I find it difficult to believe that a single steering ram is superior to two rams.

DUal rams are probably superior from a strength aspect, although t isn't redundant (leak in one steering ram would cause both to fail).

My point is that you don't need a "knuckle buster" steering knob on a 422 steering wheel, because you never have to turn it more then half a turn either direction. The steering is quicker on a 422.

 

[SnowRidge]

DUal rams are probably superior from a strength aspect, although t isn't redundant (leak in one steering ram would cause both to fail).

My point is that you don't need a "knuckle buster" steering knob on a 422 steering wheel, because you never have to turn it more then half a turn either direction. The steering is quicker on a 422.

Quick steering isn't always a good thing. Some people get in trouble with it.

Quick steering on sports car = good.
Quick steering on Power Trac = maybe not so good.

I suspect that PT just eliminated one ram and kept the same steering pump. You are probably getting twice the fluid that a PT-425 gets for the same steering input.

 

[ldabe]

Quick or slow, good or not so good, I would not be without a steering know.

 

[ldabe]

Quick or slow, good or not so good, I would not be without a steering know.

That should be KNOB, not know.

 

[MossRoad]

That should be KNOB, not know.

You got it right both times... you need the 'know" as well as the "knob".

 

[Barryh]

Just curious has any 422 owners made there own ROP'S ?? If so would be cool to see some pictures. If I decide to get a 422 this summer, I plan to just make my own.

 

[DHS]

Barry,

When I ordered my PT-422 I ordered the optional ROPS from PT. I am glad I did, it has been worth every penny. I ordered the 422 because I wanted the Robin engine. I have 660 hours on it. While it is hard starting below 20 degrees it has performed well and I am satisfied.

Dale