4510 - What size disk??

[raynman]

Hi All,

It's been a while since I posted anything, just been hiding in the back round.

I have a 4510 and want to buy a disk for my tractor, I will be disking a few acres of land (food plots). The dealer has a 6'10 disk and stated I wouldn't have any problem pulling the disk, he also has an 8' disk which he claims I won't be able to pull, my question is will 14" make that much of a difference?? /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif

The soil is very sandy where I'm located in Michigan.

Thanks for the input.
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[Egon]

With proper weights and a good cutting angle a disk pulls quite hard.

Food plots, small areas, get the small one or even smaller.

Egon

 

[timb]

There's more than just overall width involved. Spacing between the disks (7 or 9 inches?) (which leads to the number of disks and contributes to the weight) - disk diameter & edge style (smooth/notched) and overall weight (including how heavy the frame is built) - how aggresively you set the gangs, and I think to some extent the mount style (3 point, drag, etc. - i.e. you might be able to pull it but not pick it up).

Example - We have an old fairly light 8 foot drag disk I'm sure you could pull, it's been used for decades behind a 2WD Ford NAA without issue. But I'm sure there are 8 and 9 foot units out there that are twice the weight and are a different story.

There's a lot of info out there on the web, although most of it is oriented to much larger tractors and sometimes it's tough to scale it down.

Here's one:

Tillage Horsepower

 

[raynman]

Egon,

Some good points!

 

[raynman]

timb,

I think I need to ask some more questions, I did look at the disk, it's a nice heavy square tubing design, don't remember if the disk were notched or not, it has a ball screw type adjustment for the ganges and it's a 3-point.

I did ask the weight, it's 795lbs

Thanks

 

[MMM]

Shouldn't be a problem in sand, but for food plots and new ground I'd want notched over finish pans for chopping ability.

 

[Darren]

I don't know why the dealer thinks you won't be able to pull an 8'. If nothing else you can adjust the three point for depth and take a light cut. If you add weight and bury the unit up to the shafts, that might be a problem since sinking it into sand might be really easy.

I'd check the adustment with the unit on a 3 pt and slightly off the ground before buying. I've seen units that adjust easy on one side while the other side is a bear. That's new from the factory.

 

[Egon]

For a disk to do a proper job it takes a lot of HP to pull. Running around with no weight and no angles may be fun but really accomplishes little.

Egon

 

[raynman]

Thanks for the input all.

I'm going to do some more investigating yet. /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif

 

[green4710]

Someone mentioned how aggressive you adjust the disk. Its been my experience we just set the angle of the disk gangs to a moderate setting and left it there. Is there a lot of advantages of moving the angles of the disk gangs for different soils? I.e. disking up weeds, or making a food plot?