7014 rod

[rmully]

Anyone using 7014 rod? I am thinking of using it over the top of an ugly 6011 weld. Seems like it would make a pretty bead and already have the strength of the 6011. Tried 7018 at 90 amps but it is difficult to use and I need more practice. Welder is an Everlast 200ST

 

[Furu]

Anyone using 7014 rod? I am thinking of using it over the top of an ugly 6011 weld. Seems like it would make a pretty bead and already have the strength of the 6011. Tried 7018 at 90 amps but it is difficult to use and I need more practice. Welder is an Everlast 200ST

I find 7018 a great rod to use. Not a great fan of 7014 but it does lay a pretty nice bead.

6011 has less "strength" than the 70XX rods. With that machine why not use 6010 instead?

Of course that assumes that you have proper penetration and a good weld and are comparing good welds to good welds.
A good weld with 60xx is stronger than a junk weld with 70xx rods.

What diameter 7018 were you running at 90 amps? If using 1/8" that is way low on amps.

 

[woodlandfarms]

Furu, I have the 200ST as well and it runs WAY hot as well. 1/8 rod I run between 60 and 80 amps depending on the steel. You have that 300, right?

 

[bigdeano]

I've used 7014 for 95% of my welding for the past 30+ years. Someone will have to pry it out of my hands when I'm dead. Never had a failure with it. Not good for welding high carbon or alloy steels though. Not the best for vertical welds, I use 6011 for that.

 

[MinnesotaDaveChalmers]

7014's are great, drag the flux right on the plate and take a nap

The flux makes a cup that sets the arc gap for you - if you have to run a gap, then the amps are too low.

 

[Arc weld]

Don't know what size of rod you were using but even still, you can't go by what the dial on the machine says. Your machine should burn 7018 fine.

 

[rmully]

I was using 3/32 7018 rod. I am building a wood stove so there is no a lot of stress on the joints. I just got back from Northern Tools and bought a box of 7014 so I will try it out tomorrow. My problem with 7018 is getting it to flow right... I need to practice more. What amp setting would be good for 7018. I was so interested in the 7018 because the rods need an oven to keep, at least that is what I read.

 

[MinnesotaDaveChalmers]

I was using 3/32 7018 rod. I am building a wood stove so there is no a lot of stress on the joints. I just got back from Northern Tools and bought a box of 7014 so I will try it out tomorrow. My problem with 7018 is getting it to flow right... I need to practice more. What amp setting would be good for 7018. I was so interested in the 7018 because the rods need an oven to keep, at least that is what I read.

For mild steel welding, 7018 do not need an oven. Mild steel is not susceptible to hydrogen assisted cracking (there are other names for it too).

However, they do run really nice just out of the oven

Personal preference for 7018
3/32" 100 amps (plus or minus 5)
1/8" 110 to 135 amps depending on thickness, postion, and weld type

 

[Furu]

I was using 3/32 7018 rod. I am building a wood stove so there is no a lot of stress on the joints. I just got back from Northern Tools and bought a box of 7014 so I will try it out tomorrow. My problem with 7018 is getting it to flow right... I need to practice more. What amp setting would be good for 7018. I was so interested in the 7018 because the rods need an oven to keep, at least that is what I read.

I think your 90 amps is pretty darn close for 3/32 7018. I have been down as low as 80 and end up a bit cold and as high as 95-100 amps. I prefer it out of the oven as I like how it flows and the slag just curls off but can be used just fine having never seen an oven. Not doing code work, no requirement, just technique and individual taste.

I am still in my infancy as to welding

 

[Furu]

Furu, I have the 200ST as well and it runs WAY hot as well. 1/8 rod I run between 60 and 80 amps depending on the steel. You have that 300, right?

Wow 1/8" 7018 between 60-80.
I have run 1/8 6010 at 85 and very rarely 75 but not 7018 1/8 inch. If it works and your are getting a good weld then it is what it is.

I have a Longevity 250 and the Everlast 300. I had to have my Longevity replaced at the 1 year point as it was having major problems. It seemed that it was starting to go down the same road again so when the 300 deal popped up I chose to get one at that price as I did not know if the Longevity would hold on without failing again. Really like the Everlast 300.