EddieWalker
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Most Impressive!!!! Thanks for the update. Having OSB on the inside walls will make it easy to organize everything.
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wmonroe
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Awesome building! How thick did you go on the floor?
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Thanks, Guys!
The slab was kind of all over the map as the clown who graded it (ahem ...me...) left a lot to be desired in terms of consistency... In my defense I needed help to do that right, and didn't have any, so I made do solo. It is nominal 5.5" but frankly varies from 3.5 to ~7" in the low spots. Let's just call it "sufficient" shall we
There is a 16"d x 20" wide thickened edge also for the footing.
The slab was kind of all over the map as the clown who graded it (ahem ...me...) left a lot to be desired in terms of consistency... In my defense I needed help to do that right, and didn't have any, so I made do solo. It is nominal 5.5" but frankly varies from 3.5 to ~7" in the low spots. Let's just call it "sufficient" shall we
There is a 16"d x 20" wide thickened edge also for the footing.
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Been following your thread and I must say that you have taken on a big project, but one that will be highly satisfying! Thanks for the details on the thickened perimeter, but wondering if those dimensions are a factor of your local frost depth, building size/height, both, other factors? I like this approach as an alternative to a pole building approach or traditional footing and frost wall method. I'll have my own outbuilding project coming up in another year or so and am getting great ideas from your project and others here on TBN!
The other thing I was wondering about was the channel that you formed in along the edge where the SIP wall was set. What's the purpose for this channel?
Thanks for documenting your project and I love all the pics! Great Job.
The other thing I was wondering about was the channel that you formed in along the edge where the SIP wall was set. What's the purpose for this channel?
Thanks for documenting your project and I love all the pics! Great Job.
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Thomas, The foundation was designed using the Shallow Frost-Protected Foundation Guide (attached below, or search online for it - free). It works based on your local climate conditions, so have a look and you can decide if it makes sense. In this case, it saves me digging and pouring 4' stem walls with footings, so it is a huge savings in both time and materials.
Good eye on catching the step in the slab. Because the wall on that side was going to be buried below grade partially, we wanted something to help counteract the sideways pressure from the ground at the bottom of the wall. The step makes the sill plate bear directly into the slab, so it is well supported at the bottom this way. The center wall is a shear wall that is also tied into the slab with a thickened footing of it's own, and the roof trusses are designed to be part of the lateral resistive structure for this. Enercept had an engineer they used to deal with all that.
View attachment Frost protected shallow footing guide.pdf
Good eye on catching the step in the slab. Because the wall on that side was going to be buried below grade partially, we wanted something to help counteract the sideways pressure from the ground at the bottom of the wall. The step makes the sill plate bear directly into the slab, so it is well supported at the bottom this way. The center wall is a shear wall that is also tied into the slab with a thickened footing of it's own, and the roof trusses are designed to be part of the lateral resistive structure for this. Enercept had an engineer they used to deal with all that.
View attachment Frost protected shallow footing guide.pdf
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So while I've been spending most of my time working on the shop building, the house site got started somewhat. I had the excavator dig the foundation pad and then the concrete guys go the footing and foundation walls in. Here's a few shots of it.
Digging the foundation
Footing Forms
Digging the foundation
Footing Forms
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And then the walls. This is about 50% walkout, so half of the walls are just frost footings below grade.
Forms out the wazoo!
All ready to pour. Minor detail here in that I showed up a bit late and there were concrete trucks already on site. I asked the crew where the step (essentially a brick ledge) in the footings were. Got the blanks stare and then the foreman went "oh SHEET!" and they had to scramble to get that in place while the trucks were waiting. They were about 10 seconds from starting the pour when I asked that. Just in time!
And the pouring with the pumper truck again. They prefer to use that for just about everything they do as it saves a ton of time, so they actually split the cost with the customer.
That's about it for now. Working on drywall on the shop now that we passed rough electric and framing on that building. Trying to wrap up drywall in the next couple weeks. SIPs panels for the house have been delayed so we have been waiting for those to show up. It looks like we may get them finally on Aug 30, so we can start moving forward with that, hopefully in time to get it enclosed before the snow flies....
Forms out the wazoo!
All ready to pour. Minor detail here in that I showed up a bit late and there were concrete trucks already on site. I asked the crew where the step (essentially a brick ledge) in the footings were. Got the blanks stare and then the foreman went "oh SHEET!" and they had to scramble to get that in place while the trucks were waiting. They were about 10 seconds from starting the pour when I asked that. Just in time!
And the pouring with the pumper truck again. They prefer to use that for just about everything they do as it saves a ton of time, so they actually split the cost with the customer.
That's about it for now. Working on drywall on the shop now that we passed rough electric and framing on that building. Trying to wrap up drywall in the next couple weeks. SIPs panels for the house have been delayed so we have been waiting for those to show up. It looks like we may get them finally on Aug 30, so we can start moving forward with that, hopefully in time to get it enclosed before the snow flies....
wmonroe
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Nice! Getting the footers and foundation is a big step. The delay waiting for the panels will just give the concrete a few extra days to cure.
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Looks good, Dave. It shouldn't be too hard to get closed-in before the weather turns nasty.
I'm sure it's a good feeling to see concrete progress. If I ever do another build, not likely, but I would interview the concrete contractor by saying "show me your equipment." I think outfits that try to do the form handling on a shoe-string equipment budget end up with, can only attract, the least skilled crews. Yours looks reasonably well equipped.
I'm sure it's a good feeling to see concrete
progress. If I ever do another build, not likely, but I would interview the concrete contractor by saying "show me your equipment." I think outfits that try to do the form handling on a shoe-string equipment budget end up with, can only attract, the least skilled crews. Yours looks reasonably well equipped.