A small pole building for the PT

[MrJimi]

Barry, I know very well what these things look like and this one in Clearwater, not Tampa like I mentioned in the other post, on the north side of 580 going west from 19 is something to see. My wife said noway I turned around and pointed some features about it and we were on our way and It's in a residential neighborhood with lot's of house near it and It sits on a corner lot

 

[BillCroasmun]

Barry, I wanted to post a thread about the cab on the PT forum but if I don't get to it I'll be sure to include a photo of it in the background of the shed pictures.

I called Carter again today to inquiry about gambrel (barn style?) trusses but they more than triple the truss price plus they would take more roofing material so they are out of the question. That added vertical space would of been nice...

On the other hand, a neighbor with a Bobcat said they'd come drill the post holes for me so I should be starting soon!

 

[Barryh]

Barry, I wanted to post a thread about the cab on the PT forum but if I don't get to it I'll be sure to include a photo of it in the background of the shed pictures.

I called Carter again today to inquiry about gambrel (barn style?) trusses but they more than triple the truss price plus they would take more roofing material so they are out of the question. That added vertical space would of been nice...

On the other hand, a neighbor with a Bobcat said they'd come drill the post holes for me so I should be starting soon!

I'm sure it will be a first class job

 

[AndyM]

On the other hand, a neighbor with a Bobcat said they'd come drill the post holes for me so I should be starting soon!

Looks like something has been started over there...
I saw an arrangement of posts sticking out of the ground when I looked over on our way to church this morning. Hopefully, we'll be seeing pictures posted soon.

 

[BillCroasmun]

Andy,
Your right, I had the post holes dug out on Saturday. I dropped the 13 posts by sunset. It rained Saturday night so Sunday morning was spent using the manual post hole digger to pull up about a foot of mud from the bottom of each hole... well at least the first 8 then it dawned on me that I could leave the muck there and just reposition them with a sledge and a sloppy golf swing .

By the end of the day yesterday I had the four corners plum, square and braced. I should of got more done but I had a few other side jobs to contend with like cleaning out the chicken coop (which was way overdue).

Three questions:
Before I start posting pics is there a suggested size (in Mb and in resolution) for the forum?

I have a smaller air compressor (I think 4.3 cfm at 40psi, 3.3 at 90 psi). If I were to rent/buy a nail gun that had a higher requirement than this would it:
A. Not work
B. Work partially (i.e. drive nail only 3/4 of the way)
C. Work completely but require extra "recovery" time between nails.
D. Something else???

If the answer is C I'll probably go ahead and try using one because it would still be faster than me hand nailing everything. Even if I had to shoot one, hand nail one, shoot one, etc.


What's the most common way to fasten the 2x10 header boards?

Thanks!
Bill

 

[BillCroasmun]

Something just dawned on me... the footprint is going to be 24 x 24. Depth I made the posts 22' so the 24' trusses would have 1' overhang each side.

From one gable end to the other though I didn't think about overhang... the posts are 24' outside edge to outside edge. Is this going to be an issue later?

 

[BillCroasmun]

Well, since I haven't heard otherwise I'll post my pics the same as I did the "What it should look like" photo.

As for the headers, I guess I'll just stick with code... I wanted to know if in general people went beyond my code on this as I wanted to take the stronger of the two approaches.

As far as the nail gun question goess, I guess I'll keep hammering unless I hear a better option.

And lastly I'll keep the posts at 24' and wing it if I run into any issues. (I'm good at winging it! )

 

[Brad_Blazer]

800 x 600 is a good picture size
Didn't see your original header question but code is generally good.
A framing nail gun works fine on a small compressor. The guys building crates that sound like machine gunners need more compressor. You won't. Just keep all body parts more than a nail length in any direction from the barrel. The nail gun will not stress the already built part like hammering does.

The ends should overhang beyond the trusses to protect the ends of the building from the weather. The posts are in place so you will need a little more roofing.

 

[BillCroasmun]

Brad,
Thanks for the info!

Tonight was not a good night... I remeasured all the sides and diagonal and one of the poles shifted quite a bit.

Of course we've had rain and the hole has partially filled in. Trying to reposition it with it like it was wasn't working... using the post hole digger around the post was a pain... ended up pulling it out.

Of course I spent 30 minutes trying to do so manually... using the tractor didn't dawn on me to I was pretty worn out. Then I ended up nailing a 6" 2x4 to the post (about two feet up), slid the lip of the bucket under it, raise it a foot or two, then used a cinch strap over the FEL arms under the bucket and around the post to keep it from tipping. Then it lifted right up with no effort.

I cleared back out the hole with the manual post hole digger (did I mention I was already worn out BEFORE starting this...) then set back in the post.

After all that I still can't get it right where I want it.

I called it quits for the evening... here's a quick photo from Sunday.

 

[Brad_Blazer]

Bill,
Sorry to hear about the tough time getting the posts where you want them. For tamped posts you pretty much have to be able to accept a 1" position tolerance. You can brace a post in a clean hole and pour concrete to get more accurate or do concrete piers and brackets to bolt the posts to them.

I like a chain around a post for pulling it. For setting them too when I do power pole posts.

Your site does not look level. Are you planning on a raised floor? If not and it's really not level I would pull the posts, level the site, and start over (Yikes!) You will never be happy with a sloping floor.

Sure it's a lot of work but on that PT it should be fun.

Good luck!
Brad