a tractor can break in half?

[virgil]

youare is right... you can break anything if you try.

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue">This happens it is usually from abuse. We usually see one a year that has split in two piece normally at the bell housing. I have seen this happen with all brands so it is not something happens to just one.
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spencer200,

Reports of tractors broken in half have been pretty elusive here at TBN, as far as I can remember. I do remember a couple, but very little specific information.

Can you tell us a little more of your experience with them? I have a real interest in the subject, as the owner of a Kubota B2910 with a Kubota 3PH backhoe on it.

Maybe you can give me the reason I need to upgrade to a L3430 with the BH90 subframe hoe on it! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif

What Brands/models of CUTs have you seen broken in half? Was this caused by backhoe use, or some other reason, like falling off a truck or loading dock? Are these “frameless” tractors you are referring to, or tractors with frames as well? Even better, any pictures?

Nothing would be better than pictures of several different broken tractors to show the wife, as proof of my need to get that “more reliable” L3430! /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif

One per year at one dealership [town, locality, whatever] is an amazingly high frequency in my mind. I for one would like to hear more specifics!

By the way, it would take more than broken tractor pictures to cause a new tractor to appear in our driveway... /forums/images/graemlins/frown.gif

 

[Henro]

<font color="blue"> yes they can and will break in half. Some times it is a result of abuse. The several that I have seen (they were all from the big 3) were caused by a light duty loader. That is to say, a less expensive, light duty loader mounting system is not desighned to do heavy work. </font>

Virgil,

Yours is the first report that I have heard (or at least that I remember... /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif) of a loader being the cause of a broken tractor. And loaders are much more common on CUTs than backhoes from what I can see.

Were these aftermarket loaders added to tractors, or loaders that came were provided by the manufacturer of the tractors?

I have given thought to possible damage to the my tractor from the 3PH hoe, but have concluded that if I use it in a reasonable manner that it should perform well, since it was designed and provided by Kubota, along with the tractor.

I may be the last to realize it, but I never even considered that I might damage my tractor using the loader! I always figured that if I tried to do too much, the loader would not be able to, and that would be the end of it. Now I would not try to pick up something heavy with a chain on one end of the loader...but I might catch a tooth of the tooth bar under a rock or something at the end of the bucket. Still, I expect I would notice this and not expect such a thing to break the tractor...since my loader was designed by Kubota for this tractor.

Like to hear more details if you have time...

 

[Soundguy]

Like the others said... Many many tractors use the engine/tranny/diffy castings AS the frame.. That said... I've only seen a tractor break in half at the engin to tranny castings, and these were due to backhoe instalations that didn't use a sub frame. I soppose the engine block could break in half.. but I've never seen it.. anythings possible I guess.

Soundguy

 

[Harv]

It happened to me a few years ago. Made the repairs myself.

See attachment.

 

[OkeeDon]

Harv, I'm curious about the motive power in your tractor. Does she pedal really hard, or is she just half fast?

 

[treesmiths]

I think I'd like to take you up on that offer. Might help me get off this dang fence and buy something. Thanks!

 

[higgy]

Egon have a look at this, it does happen, just not often.

This picture came from a thread earlier or from a tractor safety site.

I did not see it. I have a better one at home that I will send where it broke while backhoeing.

Dane

 

[markie61]

Another backhoe story: When I was shopping last year, I found a good deal ($20000) on a TC45D/17LA/SS/500hrs with a Woods backhoe from a Deere dealer who took it in on trade for a 110. Being suspicious (if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is), I got the s/n and called a NH dealer who looked it up on their service system. Turns out, the backhoe cracked the transmission housing to the tune of a $4000 repair. I called the original owner who said it cracked while he was using it. He also said that the original frame wasn't designed properly and they added a newer frame to keep it from happening again. He seems flummoxed that he couldn't do with it what he pleased. He stated that he pushed it hard, or words to that effect.

Everything felt "hinky" so I walked (actually ran) away from it. Bottom line: they CAN break, but seldom do. The main structure is the engine/trans/driveline - other components are just bolted on to subframes. They common element in most stories I heard have been backhoes.

Mark

 

[jimg]

OK, standby then...Ill post my findings here.