Alien Invasion - I want my pond back !

Wagtail · May 23, 2015

Coyote machine said:
Is there a DVD or something to skip a chapter ahead?

Shame on you, CM. You'll just have to wait like the rest of us.

Just think of it like the days before VCR technology or the family gathered around the living room radio waiting for the secret message to decode from Little Orphan Annie...

D-R-I-N-K--Y-O-U-R--O-V-A-L-T-I-N-E

Luke'sScreenName · May 23, 2015

Ok.
Option 1: You give the outlet to a politician and tell him if he sucks hard enough you'll give $10 to his campaign. (won't work because the OP self-reports to be too cheap).
Option 2: you give the outlet to a politician but this time tell him it's a microphone. A very large and constant stream of hot poop will immediately begin to flow from his mouth hole. This high rate-of-flow stream will be perpendicular, and in close proximity, to the hose outlet orifice. The Bernoulli Principal suggests a venturi vacuum will be created thereby drawing water into the hose! Simple!
Give the politician something to filibuster and you can drain the whole pond in a few hours. Or just use it for primeing.

dave1949 · May 23, 2015

MossRoad said:
I'd loop the hose half way down the hill and keep both open ends by the pond. Then I'd just work a short loop into the pond, dipping it full and lifting, dipping and lifting, until the hose had enough water to get over the hump. Then I'd plop one end into the pond and drag the empty half down the hill. It will fill on its own by the time you get the end extended. Piece of cake! :thumbsup:

I'd have to see the video.

What keeps the already dipped and lifted water in the pipe on the next dip?

Just out of curiosity, the water in a 2" pipe weighs 1.36 pounds per foot of pipe. 0.163 gallons per foot.

200' of pipe X 1.36 lbs/ft = 272 lbs -- not including the weight of the pipe itself. Eric, that's 19.43 stones.

RedNeckGeek · May 23, 2015

Somewhat late to the party, but so far, Eric, the story doesn't suck:thumbsup:

SPYDERLK · May 23, 2015

texasjohn said:
Interesting....and the reason would be...? Or are you going to allow future thread revelations to enlighten us?

The whole tube must move to and fro and the pull stroke must move the water. Greatly a practical issue having to do with long length and the weight of the tube as it fills with water. Also, to the very small compression ratio you start with in an empty 600' tube. Also the large tube dia will favor the water flowing w/i the pipe, seeking its own level and capturing pockets of air.

,,,A mechanical device could be made to accomplish priming in this way. Yould want to coil the tube probably and oscillate the coil. Uncoiling the ~ 1k# tube would take special considerations.
larry

txdon · May 23, 2015

Coyote machine said:
?and no closer to who the aliens are. Is there a DVD or something to skip a chapter ahead?

Eric, In Texas we have an Amusement park called Fiesta Texas. They have a system that for extra money you can buy a "Flash-pass" and do not have to wait in line like everyone else, you can go right to the front of the line. Maybe you could sell Flash-passes to the impatient members and can finish the story in a PM to them.

alchemysa · May 23, 2015

I might have missed something but it seems you have a 15 yard fall and a couple of hundred feet (or maybe yards) of pipe.

The thing is, you only have to get the siphon happening to wherever the first point on the pipe is thats a few inches below the pond surface level. That might only be, say, 20' feet from the pond. Everything beyond that point is just 'run-off'.

So, cut the pipe 20' from the pond, get your suction happening, then rejoin the pipe. You dont have to try and fill 200 yards of pipe to get a siphon happening.

This might also work... Once you've got the siphon working, rejoin the pipe but leave a hole at the join so air can escape. Then plug the far end of the pipe and allow it to fill with water. When water backs up to the air hole, plug it and remove the bung from the bottom end. You should then have a more powerful siphon.

SPYDERLK · May 23, 2015

alchemysa said:
I might have missed something but it seems you have a 15 yard fall and a couple of hundred feet (or maybe yards) of pipe.

The thing is, you only have to get the siphon happening to wherever the first point on the pipe is thats a few inches below the pond surface level. That might only be, say, 20' feet from the pond. Everything beyond that point is just 'run-off'.

So, cut the pipe 20' from the pond, get your suction happening, then rejoin the pipe. You dont have to try and fill 200 yards of pipe to get a siphon happening.

This might also work... Once you've got the siphon working, rejoin the pipe but leave a hole at the join so air can escape. Then plug the far end of the pipe and allow it to fill with water. When water backs up to the air hole, plug it and remove the bung from the bottom end. You should then have a more powerful siphon.

Good ploy! Now, how far is it to the 1st place a little below surface level ... and does the land rise any from there. Does it undulate allowing air pockets to develop. Level changes by undulation with air pockets atop are additive.

alchemysa · May 23, 2015

SPYDERLK said:
Good ploy! Now, how far is it to the 1st place a little below surface level ... and does the land rise any from there. Does it undulate allowing air pockets to develop. Level changes by undulation with air pockets atop are additive.

Hopefully the pond wall or somewhere not too far from it is the highest point. It shouldnt be too hard to get a siphon happening over a short distance. Plenty of ideas have been provided. Any other high points could be pin pricked to allow air to escape. When they are all 'bleeding', plug 'em and pull out the big bung at the bottom. (Sounds good in theory anyway.)