Ammunition

[5030]

Might want to look at your Florida hunting laws regarding shooting deer with a carbine.
Taking game

Particularly, this quote:
"Centerfire semi-automatic rifles having magazine capacities of more than five rounds"

Also, there's some stipulations about the type of ammo that can be used.

I've always thought of the camp type carbines that take the same magazine for the pistol and carbine were interesting.... until last year, when I saw our neighbor pump 6 or 7 shots from a camp 9 into a groundhog and it got up and ran away. Dufus.

We have (in Michigan) the same rules as you do in Indiana regarding the use of a straight walled cartridge (pistol cartridge) in a carbine for Whitetail. To that end I bought a Henry Big Boy, chambered 44 Remington Magnum (same as my S&W) and I use the same brass and rounds but instead on Lil'Gun, I load Unique at 11.5 grains with a magnum pistol primer. The Big Boy is plenty good out to about 150 yards, plenty for Michigan / Ohio and Indiana whitetails.

9mm, 380's and 22LR's are lady calibers IMO.

 

[k0ua]

Any idea what bullet? That can make a huge difference.

Bruce

Had to be poorly placed FMJ's

 

[MossRoad]

Had to be poorly placed FMJ's

From a drunken sniper sitting on his butt on a deck hiding behind a lawnchair with one arm in a sling due to trying to get full disability for a torn rotator cuff pointing the carbine through the deck slats, towards and occupied house... but I blame the carbine. :laughing:

Next neighbor closer to us emptied a 9mm into a possum that was in front of her garage from 10' away and they went through the possum, bounced off the concrete driveway and up through the garage door. The whole magazine right through the door! The possum walked away, too. Closer neighbor (the only one that isn't tanked 24/7) tracked it down in his yard and finished the poor thing off with a .22 to the head.

 

[k0ua]

As for the Hi Point 9 or 10 round mags. You could block one to 5 rounds pretty easily, either with a chunk of wood under the follower, or dimples on the sides of the mag to prevent the follower from going down as far. Just make sure you don't have any non modified mags with you.

 

[MossRoad]

So, original poster back, with new account, cause old one is lost when they disabled the App.

I'm thinking of getting a pistol caliber carbine. I'm thinking of a HI Point 4095, .40 S&W. I like the idea of matching calibers with pistols I have, which is 9mm Makarov, .40 S&W, and 7.62x25 (.30 tokarev).

1st: who actually owns or has shot a few hundred rounds though one

2nd: any reason to favor 9mm vs .40 vs .45. 9mm would be cheapest, and I assume .45 ACP worst over 50 or so yards.

3rd: are these just "toys" or can you take white tail deer and such at real life ranges (50-100 yards).

Edit: 4th, any reason avoid these, other than they are UGLY

Here's a nice video on the High Point 9mm carbine from hickok45 on youtube. I like this guy. He's pretty fair on all gun reviews. A little long winded sometimes, but so am I! :laughing: He's got a nice range and puts the guns to the test and a lot of ranges.

In that video, he's shooting a gong at about 80 yards with it according to this range tour video he put out...

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NDMcacLEhQk

 

[paulsharvey]

I had watched that first video, which kinda seemed in conclusion. He seemed to like it, but didn't seem 100% convinced. The idea of only 10 round mags seems a bit silly on one hand, but always seems fine in SKS.

I think I'm going to see if any of my gun nut friends have one. I want to actually handle and shoot one before I buy it. My wife has a HI Point .40 pistol, and it shoots every time, but the more often we shoot it, the less we like it. It's hard to explain why... just don't care for the thickness, low capacity, weight, feel, ect.

 

[MossRoad]

...the more often we shoot it, the less we like it. It's hard to explain why... just don't care for the thickness, low capacity, weight, feel, ect.

Kinda sounds like our 3rd car!

 

[k0ua]

I had watched that first video, which kinda seemed in conclusion. He seemed to like it, but didn't seem 100% convinced. The idea of only 10 round mags seems a bit silly on one hand, but always seems fine in SKS.

I think I'm going to see if any of my gun nut friends have one. I want to actually handle and shoot one before I buy it. My wife has a HI Point .40 pistol, and it shoots every time, but the more often we shoot it, the less we like it. It's hard to explain why... just don't care for the thickness, low capacity, weight, feel, ect.

Remember those old commercials "don't you buy no ugly truck"?... Well don't buy no UGLY gun.... :laughing: Naw. really I don't think the High Point carbines look that bad, and I would consider owning one.. The pistols...no, not so much..too darn ugly, and too darn un-ergonomic and made with too much "pot metal" for me.. Each to his own.. but I suspect, that the "pride of ownership" is a bit lacking in your high point pistol, and it is just not something you continue appreciating once the joy of the low price wears off. Good high quality firearms can be appreciated by you and others for decades long after the high price shock has worn off. Just a thought.

 

[Garycw]

I've never seen a ugly gun. Just different ones. . I like em all

 

[5030]

From a drunken sniper sitting on his butt on a deck hiding behind a lawnchair with one arm in a sling due to trying to get full disability for a torn rotator cuff pointing the carbine through the deck slats, towards and occupied house... but I blame the carbine. :laughing:

Next neighbor closer to us emptied a 9mm into a possum that was in front of her garage from 10' away and they went through the possum, bounced off the concrete driveway and up through the garage door. The whole magazine right through the door! The possum walked away, too. Closer neighbor (the only one that isn't tanked 24/7) tracked it down in his yard and finished the poor thing off with a .22 to the head.

Opossums die very hard as do coons (no racial slur intended). I capped one on my deck last night (opossum). Had a coon tonight. Coons are smarter than opossums, the coon saw me and booked but I got a Texas Heart Shot off as he booked towards the barn.

I used to shoot both with an ancient Ruger 22 semi auto that belongs to my wife. I could empty 9 rounds of Agulia Hyper Velocity 22 LR's in an Opossum and iif I didn't shoot it in the face, it would book, same with a coon. I've switched to a Savage 17 HMR bolt gun. One shot does the trick now

The opossum I capped last night made it into the back yard and convulsed in the leaves... I snagged it this morning and tossed it in the field out back where the yotes can get a snack.

I've learned the best (and least messy way to dispatch) a opossum is to approach it. They will turn around and present you with their backside. You get down leverl with their rearend and give them a what for in the butthole... They die without leaking all over. Much less messy on the deck.

Springtime is wood hog time. I love ground hog stew. Good as or better than squirrel.

I shoot a pile of squirrels, wood hogs, opossums and coons every year.

The only thing a 9 is good for is shooting cans.... Same with a 380.

You get caught here in Michigan shooting a whitetail with a 22, you'll not only loose your gun and vehicle, you'll wind up making license plates.:laughing: