Ammunition

[kenmac]

anybody here tried 1 of these https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dvLt8-Wf7r0.. ??? Poor mans full auto.. I bought 1.. haven't had a chance to try it out yet... Should be fun to shoot

 

[rtimgray]

I know that I've posted this in a couple of threads before (heck, maybe even this one), but I've got 2 of the Hi Point carbines in 9mm and I really like them both.

We got one with the new Tactical stock and it shoots well. The second one, I bought with an ATI stock that makes it look like a Beretta CX4 - however, when I got it home, it wouldn't cycle (one shot, then jam). I called Hi Point and they said that they would cover the repair under warranty (as far as I know, all their weapons are lifetime warranty now, no matter how you got it) with one condition - they would not honor the warranty in the ATI stock, so I had to buy a new stock from them. I sprung for the $20 classic stock (since I already had a tactical one) and shipped the barreled receiver to them. It came back in just a couple of weeks with almost all new parts, a new stock, two new magazines, a sling, and some other accessories. And it turns out that I like the classic stock better than the tactical one (and so does my son). It has performed perfectly since we got it - although all that we do with it is pretty much plinking at about a maximum of 50 yards.

Oddly enough, I had purchased the second one with the ATI stock for $200. Just last month, I decided I didn't want the ATI stock anymore, and discovered that they are somewhat rare now. I ended up selling it on eBay for about $180, so I almost ended up with a "free" gun. It also came with a scope that we mounted on another rifle that we have. It's pretty odd for things to work out that well for me, but every now and then...

Anyway, I would have no qualms buying another Hi Point, and I plan on getting a .45 carbine at some point. Their customer service was very impressive to me. I also have a C9 pistol, and it's fine as well.

Good luck and take care.

 

[Soundguy]

Good point, I hadn't thought about that
Which kinda brings me back around to this; everything one of these doea; something else does better. Got .270 Win for hunting, pistols and shotguns for defense, .22 for play....

I have a high point 45acp carbine, my buddy has the 9. both work perfectly. they are not as ugly as a high point pistol, or a glock, but they are a tad uglier than other carbines.

I have a taurus ct9 9mm carbine as well.

would I want to take game with them? not really, but I guess in a shtf situation.. yes, short range.

I think i might rather have a 44mag for taking deer.. but.. possible? sure.

I know guys that take deer with 30# recurve bows.

all about shot placement.

 

[Soundguy]

As for the Hi Point 9 or 10 round mags. You could block one to 5 rounds pretty easily, either with a chunk of wood under the follower, or dimples on the sides of the mag to prevent the follower from going down as far. Just make sure you don't have any non modified mags with you.

I wonder what they do for revolver hunters? Orange plug?

 

[paulsharvey]

I always thought it was one of dumber hunting laws. What about a 10 rnd SKS makes it less appropriate for hunting than a 5 rnd semi auto... i guess they don't want spraynpray hunting. Really I think it was probably put in place originally by gun snobs who though evil "assault" types had no place next to their rifles

 

[Soundguy]

who knows... maybee they thought it might prevent poaching or something..

 

[k0ua]

I wonder what they do for revolver hunters? Orange plug?

The provision of the 5 round magazine only applies to semi-auto rifles (carbines?) it does not appear to cover semi-auto pistols or revolvers. It is kind of curious. We have a similar prohibition of using a magazine over 10 rounds here on any type of firearm. It did not really affect many hunters, because then even the old British .303 had only a 10 round mag, and that was about as big a mag as anyone would have. Then the rise in popularity of the black rifle in recent years in various calibers of course with many mags of 30 or more rounds available kind of made this issue more contentious. I guess they just don't want a lot of "spray and pray" activity in the woods during deer season. I have hunted with a British .303 and I needed one round to get my deer that year. I have killed 2 deer at one time with my .308 semi-auto rifle, and it took 2 rounds in one and 1 round in another fired in about a 2 second time interval. One deer fell dead on its feet, the other (the one with only 1 hole in him) ran about 40 yards downhill. It took about 5 minutes to track and find it. It took somewhat longer to drag it uphill. And getting it into my truck by myself was really fun. I was getting tired after loading the first one and dragging up the second one.

 

[Soundguy]

The provision of the 5 round magazine only applies to semi-auto rifles (carbines?) it does not appear to cover semi-auto pistols or revolvers. It is kind of curious. We have a similar prohibition of using a magazine over 10 rounds here on any type of firearm. It did not really affect many hunters, because then even the old British .303 had only a 10 round mag, and that was about as big a mag as anyone would have. Then the rise in popularity of the black rifle in recent years in various calibers of course with many mags of 30 or more rounds available kind of made this issue more contentious. I guess they just don't want a lot of "spray and pray" activity in the woods during deer season. I have hunted with a British .303 and I needed one round to get my deer that year. I have killed 2 deer at one time with my .308 semi-auto rifle, and it took 2 rounds in one and 1 round in another fired in about a 2 second time interval. One deer fell dead on its feet, the other (the one with only 1 hole in him) ran about 40 yards downhill. It took about 5 minutes to track and find it. It took somewhat longer to drag it uphill. And getting it into my truck by myself was really fun. I was getting tired after loading the first one and dragging up the second one.

I hear ya on spray and pray, maybee they want control on not opening up on a 'herd'.

I like hunting, but I hate tracking. I tend to be less sporting and go for more 'overkill'. I pretty much won't use much less than a 30-06. Almost a 'gimme' on medium florida game no matter where you hit.

I used to use a 30-30 for hog/deer. and way before that a mini-14 ranch.. now that one.. you wanted shot placement.

At some point I got a 35rem to repalce the 30-30. but really found it didn't do anything the 30-30 did, as long as I was making a halfway decent shot.. which is what led me to the 30-06 vs the 35rem.

 

[k0ua]

I hear ya on spray and pray, maybee they want control on not opening up on a 'herd'.

I like hunting, but I hate tracking. I tend to be less sporting and go for more 'overkill'. I pretty much won't use much less than a 30-06. Almost a 'gimme' on medium florida game no matter where you hit.

I used to use a 30-30 for hog/deer. and way before that a mini-14 ranch.. now that one.. you wanted shot placement.

At some point I got a 35rem to repalce the 30-30. but really found it didn't do anything the 30-30 did, as long as I was making a halfway decent shot.. which is what led me to the 30-06 vs the 35rem.

I pretty much agree. I hate tracking also.. I would prefer all ungulates drop dead where they are standing after being shot. Not many do, most will run a short distance even with the huge holes in them. My brother was big on using a .45acp to kill deer, and while it will certainly do it with good shot placement and proper bullets, and a carbine in that caliber with higher velocity inherent with the longer barrel would be a bonus, I tend to use something with more power. My .308 does a good job, and so does my 12 gauge slug. But I have killed deer with 30-30 .243, .303 British too.

 

[Soundguy]

I pretty much agree. I hate tracking also.. I would prefer all ungulates drop dead where they are standing after being shot. Not many do, most will run a short distance even with the huge holes in them. My brother was big on using a .45acp to kill deer, and while it will certainly do it with good shot placement and proper bullets, and a carbine in that caliber with higher velocity inherent with the longer barrel would be a bonus, I tend to use something with more power. My .308 does a good job, and so does my 12 gauge slug. But I have killed deer with 30-30 .243, .303 British too.

I agree on all counts.

I too used a 308 for a very, very short time.

I must inherrently make some noise right before I shoot. for some reason every time I go for a heart/lung shot, as I pull the trigger, the animal turns and I end up getting a shoulder/heart/lung shot.

I loose the shoulder usually, but it does tend to drop a 4 legged animal when one of the front legs dangles. Even if they take 15-30 seconds to stop doing the kickin-chicken dance, they usually stay put with one wheel gone.