annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel

   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #41  
We called them Hougen Bits. We've had them where I work for many years.
The larger ones up around 2-3" used to have a tendency to shatter. We
switched to High Performance Allied Machine Spade drills and have them
up to 3.5" and some special ordered one up 5.75". I've seen Allied TiCN
coated 1.25" bits drill nearly 500 holes in A36 steel before replacing the bit.
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #42  
Hougen makes an adapter which you can use in a Jacobs chuck and mount Weldon style
bits like the hougen annualr cutters. Just picked one up today. Not cheap but now I can use
Hougen bits in my Milwaukee Mag-drill or in my drill press in the shop.
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #43  
sparc said:
Hougen makes an adapter which you can use in a Jacobs chuck and mount Weldon style
bits like the hougen annualr cutters. Just picked one up today. Not cheap but now I can use
Hougen bits in my Milwaukee Mag-drill or in my drill press in the shop.

Gotta link?

Thomas
No matter where you go; there you are...
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #44  
No, and i looked on Hougens website and couldn't find them. Bought it a local industrial supply. I asked and they told me it was made by Hougen, but it wasn't in any packaging with a part number. I took a couple pics with my phone camera which I will post later.
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #47  
I saw some one posted drilling 7/8 and smaller holes. I have a set of Snapon brand cutters that will work in a regular drill chuck that go up to 7/8. 10 times faster than drill bits. You can also buy them in metric sizes. Just dont make the mistake I did of trying to use those cutters in a hand drill. You simply cant hold the hand drill steady or straight enought to keep from breaking the bits. Cant beat them in a drill press tho.
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #48  
There are surely lots of ways to drill big holes especially for one off or occasional use, this works from 3/4 to 1 1/2 or so, really well in the inch range. I am usually done before a guy could rig up something fancy, on equipment in place other things are not always practical either.
 

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   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #49  
At my day job, we are a distributor of tools and fasteners. We started selling these about a year ago for cutting holes in thicker steel. They work really well and can be used in hand drills for portable work.

http://www.championcuttingtool.com/pdf/newCT7.pdf
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #50  
At my day job, we are a distributor of tools and fasteners. We started selling these about a year ago for cutting holes in thicker steel. They work really well and can be used in hand drills for portable work.

http://www.championcuttingtool.com/pdf/newCT7.pdf

Hi Mark,

Thanks for the link.

I checked their website, but there is no link to allow searching for a local distributor.

Do you know how/where I can find some of these in upstate NY?

Thanks,
Thomas
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #51  
Thomas,

Champion's head office is in upstate NY somewhere (Rockville I believe). I'll email my contact there tomorrow and find out a dealer for you. What town are you in/near?

Regards,
Mark
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #52  
Thomas,

I was able to dig up this distributor, not sure how close they are to you..

Cook Iron
Rochester, NY
585-454-5840

Regards,
Mark
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel
  • Thread Starter
#53  
Found the arbor on Hougen's website.

I just checked out your link and see the Hougen arbor for 1/2" Jacobs chucks
that you mentioned. What did it cost you?

Back when I started this thread, I wanted only a Morse Taper arbor, but I can
see that an arbor for a portable drill can be very handy. I did not see one
when I was looking and when I bought my Champion bits. With a large
hand drill, you can go very slow, and really flood the area (if outside) with
coolant. My geared head 1/2" hand drill is a wrist-buster.

If a Jacobs chuck arbor costs anywhere near what I paid for my MT3 arbor,
I would consider getting one.

I just completed a bunch more 3/4-7/8" holes in 1/2" plate. Sweet.
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #54  
MarkP2321 said:
Thomas,

I was able to dig up this distributor, not sure how close they are to you..

Cook Iron
Rochester, NY
585-454-5840

Regards,
Mark

Hi Mark,

I'm just west of there, near Brockport, so that's just great!

Thanks tons!

Thomas
No matter where you go; there you are...
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #55  
For you non-professional steel fabricators out there, here is the latest
method I use for drilling holes between 1/2" and 1 1/16" in steel plate,
up to 5/8" thick.

A lot has been written on TBN over the years about holes, but this is a
surprisingly economical way to go. I expected to see more on annular
cutters on MachineBuildersNet, but there is very little there. So here
I post.

First, a little history. I rarely drilled any big holes in thick steel until I
made my CADDigger back in the mid 90s. Back then, I had an O/A cutting
torch, but I was not very effective at cutting holes accurately enough
for my purposes. Some of the holes required were as big as 2" in 1/2"
A36 steel plate. I tried bi-metal holes saws, but it was very slow and
my Delta 16" drill press really complained. And, at 240RPM, it was WAY too
fast. I also had some of those cheapo Silver & Deming reduced-shank
twist drills for the 1" and smaller holes. I got a set from HF tools for about
$25, but they chipped easily, even in mild steel.

I also paid folks I know with milling machines to use end-cutters. I have also
paid a guy with a punch press $1/hole to do some 1-inchers in 1/2 plate.
They were OK, but inconvenient, and there was some distortion of the plate.

I upgraded my drill press to the biggest and slowest one I could find that
was not a geared-head unit. This is the 20-inch DP from HF, which is about
325#, and much sturdier than my old Delta. At 180RPM, it was still too
fast for some of these bits, however. I also moved up to Morse Taper 3
bits, which the new press supported. The bits in the photo are very nice
US-made units with MT-3 shanks that go right into the DP's quill. Much
nicer.....for at least the holes up to 1". Better US-made twist drills all worked
better than the Chinese S&D units, too. The larger bi-metal hole saws were
still not a very good solution.

I now use my plasma cutter and templates or a circle guide for holes
bigger than 1 1/16" diameter, and use weld-in DOM tubing to make up for
sloppy holes. I still need to drill anything smaller than that.

Enter annular cutters. Those familiar with magnetic drill presses have
probably seen these, and these DPs can be purchased for as little as
$500 now, less the cutters. I used a mag drill back in the mid 70s when I
was a technician in a lab, but it was many thousands of dollars. I now have
a way to use annular cutters in my drill press.


I do agree with the point you made here "annular cutters are more effective" for the kind of work you mentioned above, i dont know from where you tried to buy those, according to you i fond those are very costly but there is a place called "Mutualscrew and supply" where you can buy them by spending some Descent amount of money. It is the company which will deliver all kinds of Quality hardware tools for bearable cost. I hope this source will be Helpful for you.
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel
  • Thread Starter
#56  
i dont know from where you tried to buy those...

As stated, I bought mine on eBay. A quick check shows that there are still hundreds of
listings, and you can buy many brands of annular cutters for under $20 each, new, shipped.
You can get even better deals on sets. Much less than going to a tool company like Multiscrew.
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #58  
I'm not sure if this has been answered or asked but what is the ideal speed of these cutters (say in the 1 inch range)? My drill press will only go down to about 250-300 rpms.
thanks,
dave
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel
  • Thread Starter
#59  
I'm not sure if this has been answered or asked but what is the ideal
speed of these cutters (say in the 1 inch range)? My drill press will only go down to about 250-300 rpms.

See post #13 above. A basic mag drill has only one speed and runs these annular cutters at about
350 RPM (e.g. SteelMax D1). Any DP should be able to run them with the right arbor. I keep
mine at the lowest speed I have (180RPM).
 
   / annular cutters: a better way to drill big holes in thick steel #60  
Thanks dfkrug
 

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